Pokemon Fun & Competetive

[Flaming_Spinach]

Thing is that some of you don't get it that there is a difference between being competitive and being a bad sportsmanship. You could be the most comoetitive player ever but keep the atmospere of the game friendly. I to a deck at one of the CC I attented that I should not have, but did I lose it, no. I am in 15+ and no offense to anyone in 11-14 or 10- but 15+ has all the really really competitive people. It becomes a whole new game. The problem is even though I am in the "adult age group" some people do not act their age. As I said before I am very competitive I go to every tournament I can. But just because I am competitive deos not make me a bad person. At my Sugarland CC mentioned in my Sig I battled one person that I beat. After the match I said good game and said "shut up you just got lucky, my deck sucks, you won't even make it to Top8" I looked at him and and just walked off. See what he said to me was being comptitive and a bad sportmanship. You can be competitive just as long as you are a good sport

You just won this thread.

gg.

 

[moza]

Super Wooper, the entire post was not off topic, look at the first 2 lines.

Absoltrainer: Ineed, your points are valid, sorry if it seemed like you were saying there are no good enough players in 11-14 or 10- to compare with good 15+ players.


Anyways, so this doesn't get locked:

There are people in life whom you would rather not meet, some of them play pokemon. You can't escape people who act in an un-friendly matter, period. You need to take the good with the bad.

 

[GinoLombardi21]

I'm generalizing that kids who play pokemon aren't good at anything else and TCG Worlds was their only chance to be good at something on a noticeable level. ( I have seen like 3 normal kids in pictures from events but when I went to HP pre-release there wasnt a person there that wasnt fat/nerdy/***/weird)

That's why.

Seems like your to judgemental guy. Its like everyone you know who plays pokemon you seen at an event your puttin down. Weird, Loser, etc. You want beef ill bring some rukcus. I ain't your average player. I dont post to get off-topic but you seem like the type of player who judges by appearance but doesnt think about the players that can draw 6 prizes. I must say i hope flaming stops. I must say i've seen people post about the 15+ players are the best ones. Well you can't really compare better. I think thats just more knowledge they have. Older, more skills, experience, Knowledge, etc. Imagine the competetive side if all age groups were combined. Its uneeded and unfair.

 

[charking]

Charking, if competitive people take the fun out of the game for you, or whatever it is you're complaining about, don't play competitively. The like it or leave it standpoint is thought to be inherently flawed, but if you're going to continue whining about competitive play like you have for years past, the answer is simple. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

I don't play competitively. But that's THE REASON competitive people ruin it for me. They don't respect me BECAUSE I don't play competitive.

 

[SuperWooper]

I don't play competitively.

Then why all the fuss?

But that's THE REASON competitive people ruin it for me. They don't respect me BECAUSE I don't play competitive.

Well, avoid competitive play, and "stop posting on this board" as you claimed you had, and then you will be able to avoid those people who don't give you respect.

 

[charking]

Then why all the fuss?



Well, avoid competitive play, and "stop posting on this board" as you claimed you had, and then you will be able to avoid those people who don't give you respect.

So if someone harasses me, I should leave? No, it don't work like that. Pokepop said many times that this board is for all players, competitive or not. I should be treated equal. And I have many competitive friends... I'm not gonna totally avoid what they like.

In fact, you're being as much of a jerk as they are telling me to perminantly leave.

 

[GinoLombardi21]

Honestly why doesnt he stop blaming other people, stop demanding respect, and stop complaining about everything and chill. Competetion has nothing to do with how people treat someone and how super wooper put it. Get emmmmmm!

 

[Absoltrainer]

Competetion has nothing to do with how people treat someone and how super wooper !

sportsmanship is the treating of others after a win or loss in a competition

 

[pringlemasterlol]

So if someone harasses me, I should leave? No, it don't work like that. Pokepop said many times that this board is for all players, competitive or not. I should be treated equal. And I have many competitive friends... I'm not gonna totally avoid what they like.

In fact, you're being as much of a jerk as they are telling me to perminantly leave.

you act like competitive players are evil. all you do is talk about how mean competitive players are towards you, but i dont see anyone saying 'we hate you charking because youre non-competitive'. no one here is treating you poorly. i have no idea what youre going on about.

 

[GinoLombardi21]

Some people live in there own world and need reality checks. Didnt say any names!

 

[JohnnyBlaze]

This is a good thread. I want to add a different comment that no one has picked up on. We definately play because it is fun but we are also very competitive. My son and I have been to every single World Championships there has been since the ole days of Wizards. For this current season we have stopped playing in Pre-releases. Why? Well because Pre-releases dont count towards rankings? I have always believed that for Pokemon to be truly competitive Sealed or Drafts should be part of the World Championships. The other games we play Magic and VS. have sealed as a major part of their Championshp structure. Sealed is the most definitive way of determining who is the best player. This can be argued ad naseum but until Sealed play finds its way into competitive Pokemon you wont be seeing us at any Pre-releases.

 

[charking]

Honestly why doesnt he stop blaming other people, stop demanding respect, and stop complaining about everything and chill. Competetion has nothing to do with how people treat someone and how super wooper put it. Get emmmmmm!

you act like competitive players are evil. all you do is talk about how mean competitive players are towards you, but i dont see anyone saying 'we hate you charking because youre non-competitive'. no one here is treating you poorly. i have no idea what youre going on about.

I've seen people too many times say "If you can't take the game seriously then quit" or "People who think this is only a game shouldn't be playing at all". I'd say that has plenty to do with overly-competitive(or just simply rude) people.

And you never seen it probably because I haven't posted much since a few months ago, just because of it. And the whole ganging up on me thing to... which you guys seem to be doing now. Cut it out.

Some people live in there own world and need reality checks. Didnt say any names!

Oh cut the crap and say it to my face

 

[Martin]

I've seen people too many times say "If you can't take the game seriously then quit" or "People who think this is only a game shouldn't be playing at all". I'd say that has plenty to do with overly-competitive(or just simply rude) people.

And you never seen it probably because I haven't posted much since a few months ago, just because of it. And the whole ganging up on me thing to... which you guys seem to be doing now. Cut it out.

Oh cut the crap and say it to my face

It get's lonely at the top Charking =P


Relax, atleast you guys get to play lol. The concept of competitive players is FAR from new. Why is it getting negative exposure now?

 

[Articjedi]

It's always been negative martin. Some people just like to start a ruckus I guess.

BTW, Charking, if you are getting that feeling that you're being ganged up on, could it be the second you walked in here you started bashing competitive players for the sake of them being competitive?

 

[Absoltrainer]

It get's lonely at the top Charking =P


Relax, atleast you guys get to play lol. The concept of competitive players is FAR from new. Why is it getting negative exposure now?

Because it is getting probmatic now. When worlds invite decreased the need to win increased. More people want to win and less people want to simply have fun. The reason it is being disscussed now is that before people where competitive but not as much as they are this season. Also Bad sportsmanship is beging to be seen much more often

At my Sugarland CC mentioned in my Sig I battled one person that I beat. After the match I said good game and said "shut up you just got lucky, my deck sucks, you won't even make it to Top8" I looked at him and and just walked off. See what he said to me was being comptitive and a bad sportmanship. You can be competitive just as long as you are a good sport

Stuff like that is being seen way too often. That is really the reason these threads are popping up. Also new players have no where to turn to because experianced players don't want to potentionaly help their "enemy" I helped my friend get back into the game and he kicked my butt at a second CC I attented. I did not get mad at him for winning as some people do and I did not get mad for helping him. PUI has basically tightened the entrace to worlds so everyone is cramming and fighting to get into worlds. Now don't get me wrong not all players are bad people far from it. at least 80% of the players are great people and have good sportsmanship. But as the season started the number of Great people with good morales of the game decreased I have to say it is down to 65- 70 percent of the players. Well you may say hey that's a small number it has only gone down by 15 -10 percent. But look at how many players 15% is.

In the past the US had the privilage of getting a LOT of people into worlds while some other countries could not get as many here, then all of a sudden we get the change. Most people naturaly have a had time adapting to change. Some players also have never gone to worlds but have been playing for years. Now after watching top Players get in year after year after year a new season starts and they have a better chance and then PUI cuts that chance down. Some of these people who really want to go to worlds will become very competitive.


So really in short. PUI shorted our number of invites. Meaning that invites are harder to get. So people are taking every advantage they can. Knowing that one bad tournament could in theory destroy any chance at Worlds, people will be (esspecially near regionals and states) be very very competitive and unfortuently some of the competitive people are also bad sports. Not all but some. And those some are what can ruin a good match and potentionaly ruin the game.


Bad Sportsmanship = no fun

competitive + Bad sportsmanship = no fun

competitive + good sportsmanship = fun


so you can be very competitive just as long as you are a good sport and I think that is what worries people the most

 

[Flaming_Spinach]

The person above me continues to win this thread.

One more post like that, and you will officially win at life.

The concept of competitive players is FAR from new. Why is it getting negative exposure now?

Because anyone could go to the STS.

And anyone could go to the grinder.

And now both those things are gone.


Worlds is not as open as the STSs, and the grinder is in HAWAII.

Worlds is gone from the general public. The top prize, the ONE PLACE you can prove you are a master of the game is now beyond reach for over 99% of players. They are reacting as anyone would expect.


I'll get into the whole socio-psychological effect when I get back from Cities tommorow.

 

[GinoLombardi21]

This is a good thread. I want to add a different comment that no one has picked up on. We definately play because it is fun but we are also very competitive. My son and I have been to every single World Championships there has been since the ole days of Wizards. For this current season we have stopped playing in Pre-releases. Why? Well because Pre-releases dont count towards rankings? I have always believed that for Pokemon to be truly competitive Sealed or Drafts should be part of the World Championships. The other games we play Magic and VS. have sealed as a major part of their Championshp structure. Sealed is the most definitive way of determining who is the best player. This can be argued ad naseum but until Sealed play finds its way into competitive Pokemon you wont be seeing us at any Pre-releases.

Well thats magic and vs how many cards you get in a pack like 20 cards? In sealed for pokemon its not the best player its whos got the most skill and whos got good pulls in their packs. To make this game have 30% more luck is ridiculous. Come on Stevie Kohler won an invite for the professor cup. He stinks in constructed. Sealed definitly should be for pokemon. Yaa heard!

 

[Charizardian]

Does anybody play this game to lose?

Flaming_Spinach does.

 

[Darkash]

Come on Stevie Kohler won an invite for the professor cup. He stinks in constructed.

Big words! Let's be fair here, I just can't build a deck from scratch. Give me a mediocre deck with potential (see: JB's old Dark Dragonite build) and I'll make it lean, mean, and hungry. And, wait, who beat you in a game when he had 0 energy in deck, and one in play? And had a better overall pre-Worlds record then you? I don't see any trophies on your windowsill, big man! :thumb:

 

[GinoLombardi21]

Big words! Let's be fair here, I just can't build a deck from scratch. Give me a mediocre deck with potential (see: JB's old Dark Dragonite build) and I'll make it lean, mean, and hungry. And, wait, who beat you in a game when he had 0 energy in deck, and one in play? And had a better overall pre-Worlds record then you? I don't see any trophies on your windowsill, big man! :thumb:

States Trophy, Cities trophy, Hockey trophys come on! Lol ya u beat me but the win i beat you in top cut was the one that counted. Preworlds record. I dont attend many events. BTw u go to any cities lately pm me or aim.