Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Pull Rates for Boundaries Crossed

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I think you missed the implicit thought...

1 will be just fine, as long as there are at least 4 EX/FA/Shiny OTHER than the Ace Spec. 5 SRs per box? That's pretty darn decent.
 
vaporeon said:
I'd like

2 Ace Specs per box (replaces 2 holo rares)
4-6 Pokemon EX
2 FA Pokemon EX
1 Secret Rare

Now, I'm not being greedy or anything but I went to my card shop today and bought the last 20 packs from the Dragons Exalted box and pulled no EX Pokemon or Secret Rares. Money I won't get back.

This way, us players can buy from a box and get great pulls. I think 1 in every 6-8 packs should have a EX, so you get at least 4 in a box. There also needs to be 1 Full Art every 18 packs (36 pack box). There also needs to be 1 Secret Rare in every box. not every 3. If TPCi cared, they would make it happen.
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At the same time, remember that having too many Ultra Rares per box significantly diminishes their values. Remember primes, which are worth like $2 each today because they had around 6 per box. I understand collector's concerns about the collectability of a set if there's too many hard to get cards (expensive) but firing back with way too many URs in a box can really hurt the set too.
 
Swordfish1989 said:
At the same time, remember that having too many Ultra Rares per box significantly diminishes their values. Remember primes, which are worth like $2 each today because they had around 6 per box. I understand collector's concerns about the collectability of a set if there's too many hard to get cards (expensive) but firing back with way too many URs in a box can really hurt the set too.
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Value is not my concern. Even at 6 primes and 2 legends per box, Yanmega was still 70 buck. Donphan was 30 and Magnezone was about 40-50. Playable cards will still be worth more then those not playable. If anything it will move more product.
There's no excuses for supporting the 'you might get a UR' in your box. None at all. As a player and a collector, they need to fix the ratios to where I don't waste money. I spend 50 bucks and got no URs. There is no excuse for that.
 
vaporeon said:
Value is not my concern. Even at 6 primes and 2 legends per box, Yanmega was still 70 buck. Donphan was 30 and Magnezone was about 40-50. Playable cards will still be worth more then those not playable. If anything it will move more product.
There's no excuses for supporting the 'you might get a UR' in your box. None at all. As a player and a collector, they need to fix the ratios to where I don't waste money. I spend 50 bucks and got no URs. There is no excuse for that.
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You purchased those packs knowing that it was a gamble. Stop complaining about your own poor decisions and if you're just going to instantly regret a purchase like that then stick to buying singles next time.
 
iggs17 said:
You purchased those packs knowing that it was a gamble. Stop complaining about your own poor decisions and if you're just going to instantly regret a purchase like that then stick to buying singles next time.
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It's not suppose to be a gamble like that though. I don't buy singles because I don't want to pay a crazy price for 1 card. I bought a little over half a box and pulled nothing. That is a problem. EVERY Pokemon box had a ratio of pulling a X amount about rares (any). The boxes now seem like they just steal money and I don't get that.

TPCi provides me product that I use my money to get and with my money, I want to get better pull rates when I buy more. if I don't get better pull rates when I buy more, then I stop buying.
 
vaporeon said:
Value is not my concern. Even at 6 primes and 2 legends per box, Yanmega was still 70 buck. Donphan was 30 and Magnezone was about 40-50. Playable cards will still be worth more then those not playable. If anything it will move more product.
There's no excuses for supporting the 'you might get a UR' in your box. None at all. As a player and a collector, they need to fix the ratios to where I don't waste money. I spend 50 bucks and got no URs. There is no excuse for that.
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We know the ratios for Dragons Exalted was messed up, but to fix it you're going to give a ton of ultra rares per box? You're suggesting they change a pre-established ratio just because you opened a defective box? That's not exactly fair.

and yeah Yanmega was expensive - can you imagine how much more expensive it would've been if it was the same rarity as an ex? It would've been easily over $100. The only reason cards like Juniper, N, and Bianca aren't worth $20 each is because they're easy to find, despite being in almost every deck.
 
Swordfish1989 said:
We know the ratios for Dragons Exalted was messed up, but to fix it you're going to give a ton of ultra rares per box? You're suggesting they change a pre-established ratio just because you opened a defective box? That's not exactly fair.

and yeah Yanmega was expensive - can you imagine how much more expensive it would've been if it was the same rarity as an ex? It would've been easily over $100. The only reason cards like Juniper, N, and Bianca aren't worth $20 each is because they're easy to find, despite being in almost every deck.
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Well, Primes are the same rarity as a EX. They are both URs. Legends are the same as Full Art. Boxes are not suppose to be defective most of the time. Even back then, when boxes had established ratios, there was a chance you could get a bad box but those chances were small. Kind of like a misprint but I'll call it a misrun.

A box of Pokemon cards with 36 packs should represent a print run. The ratios on each box should be the same.

Kayle said:
Yes.
Yes, it is supposed to be a gamble.
That's kind of the whole point of booster packs.
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I'll make up some numbers here for a ratio.

We'll say that HGSS unleashed had:

1 in 1 packs will have a normal Rare
1 in 4 packs will have a foil Rail
1 in 6 to 8 packs will have a Prime
1 in 18 packs will have a Legend Piece

Of the top of my head, those ratios seem right. When I bought my boxes, 2 of them had 6 primes and the other had 4. I know buying packs are a gamble but we gamble within the known ratios. We invest in the game because of those ratios, not because of random ratios.

let say I wish to gamble 80 bucks to buy 20 packs at 4 bucks each. I buy from the HGSS block. With my knowledge of the pack ratios, I know if I buy 20 packs, I will get at least 20 rare cards. I also know that I will get at least 3 foil rares but the chance of a 4th foil. I also know I should get 2 Primes and 1 legend half. Now, I bought these right out of a box and one would say these are strong statistics. With 20 packs, you will get 1 of each card of each rarity.

Now, lets say we got the same packs from Wal-Mart of the hooks. Those ratios are not the same as a print run on a booster box but the pack ratios are the same. if I bought 20 packs, I know I will get 1 of each rarity but may not pull a legend. I may pull more Primes off the hooks other then what the pack says. I pulled a Entei Star, Lugia EX and Ho-Oh ex from my unseen forces packs many years ago and I picked up 3 of them. I may also pull many Legend halfs.

Lets look at the new EX sets. They have no established ratios. You may get a good box or you'll get nothing at all. I remember someone reporting they got no URs in their box. Thats unforgivable. I could buy 20 packs for the same 80 bucks and hit the lottery or wish I had not spent my money. The difference is, I don't know anyone who regretted spending money after pulling URs, even if its one they did not want.

What I'm trying to say is a booster box is suppose to represent a pure print run 99 percent of the time, when the person buying them will get their moneys worth. However, a booster box is not suppose to represent what you could get off a Wal-Mart shelf.
 
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You're assuming that Pokemon owes you good cards, which would be nice, but isn't really true. I take kind of a strong stance on this just because I buy singles religiously, and only open packs for fun. I pulled a shiny rayquaza out of the first 32 packs of new cards I got... and nothing else good, at all.
 
I know but not everyone can afford singles. We have to think about everyone else. The boxes need better pull rates.
 
You blew 50 bucks on literally nothing and are complaining that you can't afford singles? Use your brain when you purchase. Take the guaranteed over the chance unless you have reason to believe otherwise. If you think before you buy then maybe I wouldn't have to see you whine in every thread on this site.
 
Boxes: $80-$100 (2-4 URs, you can't choose)
4-6 great UR singles of your choice: $80-$100
Most staples: $1-$5 each

Stop complaining. You make dumb purchases and you're paying for it.
 
The box ratios are fine as they are. The only EX set that I've heard people complain that there were grave mistakes in booster boxes was DRX. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
 
Swordfish1989 said:
The box ratios are fine as they are. The only EX set that I've heard people complain that there were grave mistakes in booster boxes was DRX. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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What grave mistakes?I liked getting packs with 8 RH cards and 4 EX's in a box
 
vaporeon said:
^Above

Buying singles does not fix the poor box ratios. The game does not need anymore soft patches.
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Our point is if you're complaining about box ratios because you feel like Pokemon owes you some number of good cards per $$ spent, you're probably missing the point of booster packs (and, by extension, boxes).
 
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