Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

This game needs better prize support

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Alright so an idea for better prizes is to give kids 13 or under a half-set of a relevant trainer card. Listing would be like

Rare Candy
Professor Oak's Visit
Bebe's Search
Roseanne's Research
Cynthia's Feelings
Quick Ball
Felicity's Drawing

That would be a decent listing to give 2 of to the younger ones who can't afford to constantly buy cards or the ones who have bottom 2-3 finishers.
 
I would seriously like to know how many of you, who honestly compete for top places at major events, are truly interested in product? Again I say the elite players could care less about product as prizes. Its nice to get but NOT why they are playing the game...the elite are always focused on WORLD's as the PRIZE

I think this is mainly about those who do not generally WIN events who want to get something for their trouble.


this is exactly what i think.


I already won one or the other event and and my goal was always have fun and rating points for worlds.

And of course price support is great, but it was never so important for me
 
I think if the prize support leaned towards more tangible 'stuff', even if the face value of the prizes stayed close to the same, players would be happier.
(i say face value because it's almost certainly cheaper for Pokemon to give away cards that have already been printed than to spend manpower, money, and planning time coming up with other types of prizes)
 
What'd be nice is if Pokémon did what Yu-Gi-Oh! does with some cards. They take the most widely used cards in decks and make them holographic and give them out as a first place prize in weekly tournaments. Maybe Pokémon can do that too, even with Premier Events, but instead of single cards, do sets of 5 of the holographic cards for Premiers.
 
Noooooooo... I think what a lot of people are trying to say is that if you give good cards to people who are already winning, you're just making their decks better at the expense of everyone else.
 
No one needs to "give away" good playing cards. That defeats the whole purpose of buying and trading cards.

At a recent City Championship in Colorado, a seniors player won with someone else's deck. This senior player doesn't own any cards. Players who don't buy or trade for cards do NOT deserve freebies.

The same goes for those who lose because they can't/don't buy or trade for good cards. If you want to be good, you MUST invest more than just your time into this game.

If you want handouts, stand in the welfare line.
 
New players if they can't get some trainers don't stand a chance. Since only a small % of trainers are (re)printed in each set it is hard to advise the noobs to go buy SW and MT to get Bebe while PT is on the shelf. I don't think a reverse prize structure is charity. I think it is a consolation. From other threads it is clear that players don't like to get donked. There is nothing easy about not only losing every match but the match being an auto loss before the cards are dealt. The trainers are nearly impossible to trade for and I'm not suggesting giving away the store. At the BR give out Mom's Kindness. At Cities maybe Pokeballs and Dusk Balls and at States and Regionals give Bebe's and Roseanne.

Some really good things that have happened lately were the addition of Roseanne, Candy and Plus Power to the pop 8 packs and Buck's as a prerelease card. These players are really working to become better trainers and it makes sense for them to get trainer cards.

I can't see anyone trying to go 0 - X to get a couple of trainer cards. But if they are so desperate that they will play 4 to 6 hours play pokemon, pay for tranportation to and from the event, BUY/trade for the rest of their deck and then throw every single game, well I think PUI could spare 4 cards. Then maybe he/she wins a few more league games and tells the other players why their deck got better and why win or lose Pokemon is a fun game to play.

Based on the WELFARE logic the league losers should never get anything. Heck the whole league thing is nothing but charity. All I'm suggesting is that 4 cards for the loser might be better for the game then a box for the winner.
 
Since when have league POP packs and badges ever been charity. Since "day 1," players had to play to get rewards. Plus, players get a "chance" to pull Rare Candy or Roseanne's Research -- it's not handed to them.

I'm not opposed to charity. But, I am opposed to "doling" winning decks to those who have invested little or nothing from their own wallets.

Work AND PAY/TRADE to build a winning deck.
 
What'd be nice is if Pokémon did what Yu-Gi-Oh! does with some cards. They take the most widely used cards in decks and make them holographic and give them out as a first place prize in weekly tournaments. Maybe Pokémon can do that too, even with Premier Events, but instead of single cards, do sets of 5 of the holographic cards for Premiers.

It's what they do in Japan. Holo Trainers are prizes for tournaments.
 
I don't like the idea of prize support really at all, honestly. The guys who win these tourneys are all rich kids who can afford all the most expensive cards, while the rest of us get by with what we got and lose all our tourneys.

Prize support = the rich getting richer

This is such a bogus coment.
I went to 1 sf pre release and traded some of my better cards for a shiny duskul. I then traded the duskul for most of the rarer cards i needed to build my deck. i went to another pre releace and raded up to the rest of the cards i needed. I already new what i was looking for to build a deck and i traded for its contents. I got to go to a lot of cities and placed evry time, won 40 packs.
thats not the richget richer, thats the smart get richer.

P.S. how do yu think the rich got rich in the first place?
 
^ lol, yeah it is. In some areas players will just borrow entire decks and not spend any money on their own cards, yet walk away with prizes .Your average deck isn't even that expensive to begin with.

As for more prize support, everything is pretty good how it is. I would however like to see invites without trips from regionals. These invites would be taken from the rankings invites and would ensure that people that got like 60th place would not go to worlds over a more deserving player.

jmo
 
This is such a bogus coment.
I went to 1 sf pre release and traded some of my better cards for a shiny duskul. I then traded the duskul for most of the rarer cards i needed to build my deck. i went to another pre releace and raded up to the rest of the cards i needed. I already new what i was looking for to build a deck and i traded for its contents. I got to go to a lot of cities and placed evry time, won 40 packs...
Now THAT'S how you get better cards. Trade and win, if you can't buy.
 
I would support giving a second tier Supporter (like an Oak's Research or TGMars) to some of the lower placed individuals. Event stamped, of course. I *hate* seeing a kid work for weeks on his deck, only to come to an event and get absolutely pwn'd by people who just have more resources. Or maybe just a couple of packs for the lowest "Top X" places in a given event, just to encourage these kids to keep playing. This is an example of my pity and my desire to have every single person leave either with a smile on their face or with positive comments about the event. One or the other, and I'm happy.
 
We used to have sportsmanship prizes for the last placing player at tournaments, but that just encouraged people to do poorly so they'd get something.
 
at my league some of us give free trainers to newer players that come at least twice. also our leader hasnt played a game in almost a month because hes always maxing out what he can give the younger players.
 
I'll play devil's advocate and agree with pinkertonfan.

I feel that more money should be put into prizes for smaller premier events, such as BRs and States, and maybe the prizes for tournaments like Nationals and Worlds shouldn't be quite so lavish. Additionally, 5th place at a States tournament isn't half bad. Only four packs? That's around $20. People drive Xx miles to get to a States tournament and place 5th out of many dozens of people, and they get about $20 in prizes?

1st place gets a little less, other top cut places get a little more. That's my suggestion. And no, entry fees are not a good idea.
 
This is a pretty interesting thread, and I think I might fall under the hypothetical group of people that has been discussed in this thread that would be discouraged from playing if there was an entry fee.

I played my first Organized Play anything for the first time during the SPTs, because I figured "I've been collecting these cards for a long time, for the first time ever I'm actually within a reasonable driving distance to one of these tournaments, and I really like Platinum so I'm going to buy a booster box and see what I get."

I fully well knew that even though I felt pretty confident that I knew how to operate my Galactic deck, I probably wouldn't do that well facing someone else's maniac combo and I would probably have to resign to an autoloss a few times (such as if Mewtwo Lv.X came up, which he did) but I read the tournaments were simply meant to be fun and aside from buying more boosters of a single expansion than I otherwise would (being a casual collector who's simply in it more for the pretty pictures than anything else). But I went and I felt like I had a lot of fun and got a lot of experience, and am considering the practicality of taking a few hours of driving to OP events in the future.

It was really light hearted and I had a lot of fun, and I think at one point I intentionally held myself back because I could tell my winning the game wouldn't have meant as much as it would've to one of the people I was playing. I ended up going 2-4 that day but I wasn't really discouraged, and that Dragonair promo was pretty nifty and I randomly won a beach ball.

Aside fromthat initial larger than usual investment into a single expansion I didn't really feel that pressured to win, I figured I had probably spent a lot less than most other people there and there wasn't really any sense of 'well, I did put 10 dollars into this tournament, I'd better win as much as I can.'


I guess a semi-valid sentiment, however, is that a nominal five dollar fee encourages better prize support and most interesting promos for the winners. Someone might slam me on this and correct me, but I think the people who are winning large scale tournaments are usually the ones who've spent a lot more money than just a booster box of Platinum and a few packs of Legends Awakened on the game, so while 5 dollars to them is nominal and gets them a much better prize, I think I would personally feel like I'm handing an extra 5 dollars to someone I'm probably a bit jealous of, and I might be a bit bitter when I played against someone like that, potentially even becoming a bit hostile during the game and hold up the game arguing points I would probably let slip by otherwise.

I probably wouldn't have bought that Platinum booster box, and thus not attended SPT if there was an entry fee. Even when nominal, to me it would have broadcasted a sentiment of an entirely different gameplay atmosphere I probably would've had zero interest in.
 
you know we did have amazing prizes a couple of years ago but in this bad economy pui or pop whoever has to cut back enough to keep the event free and still have some decent prizes i mean nationals and world s have amazing prizes,states have alright prizes so does regs and citys doesnt have much but still alright for a small event and battle roads has well than enough prizes for such a small and a little bit of a usless tourny for points so
 
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