Ice'Cold said:
See the problem with running 4 frontier is you get slowed down sooo much by decks that arent effected by BF because you have 4 spaces taken up by them, and even if you do get out BF, the deck doesnt rely on powers, they just help it. Rocklock can still do a ton of damage even with BF. Plus if at least one of them is prized and I counter all your gyms what are you going to do then?
You're saying rocklock doesn't rely on pokemon powers/bodies?
No pidgeot
No TTar
no Amphy
it ends up just being a bulky 3 stage 2 deck with mediocre damage capability. Without the synergy between the pokemon, the purpose fo them becomes obsolete. Also, by having to run 4 anti-gyms, a rocklock is wasting 2-3 more slots(since most played 1-2 gyms before) and having to probably play scott means even more consistency.
Basically, rocklock becomes alot more inconsistent, and having to search alot for anti-gyms means even less consistency and draw, it becomes this slow, bulky deck. I'm not saying you're unskilled, you got to worlds, obviously you were good. I just don't think rocklock is NEARLY as powerful as it was before. Milotic/BF both hurt it alot, and you probably just got lucky only facing 4 BF.
My ghost deck runs four for two reasons: 1. it's weak to dark, and if the opponent is uding dark, i will be at a disadvantage, i can at least level this out with BFs
2. no other gyms help my deck, since all of the attackers are EX, so the only gyms that I could run to help me would be something to hurt the opponent
and the remark about wobby: haunter/jirachi OWNS it. 2 attacks from either, and it's dead. I play alot of switches, and if I see wobbys, it isn't hard to counter. Gengar ex>regice too, wobby may hurt, but there are quite a few pokemon that hurt it alot. Jirachi+coin flip=60hp wobby who's confused, 40hp/confused with haunter and a good flip..
I spent all my time before emerald preparing my rocklock/dragtrode, tweaking it and such, only to have everything get owned by BF. I just think more people should play it... too many people assume everyone else will be playing it so they dont think they need to. I personally don't like BF, at least it's time of release... having to trade all my cards for a completely new deck, and needing to playtest/create an enitely new deck for regionals which was only like a month after emerald... it's lame
Not saying you're a bad player, ice, the contrary, much respect for winning with my favorite deck, but I still think rocklock is dead in most circumstances. Running into only 6 gyms that own you is lucky, especially since i/others expected BF to be way more popular than it obviously is.
Don't even know if I'll be playing ghost deck at regionals, hard to know what to play. The whole premise of the deck was to hurt decks like bex/vex/gex/a few others, and those decks aren't all over regionals i've come to notice, so the deck's metagame is bad i think.
round 5 played electrode ex/zapdos/rayquza and lost. round 6 played oddish and kingdra is all i saw he drew no energy and i won. lot of red face paint was there we went with 4 people and they either played a lanturn variant or a ludiculo deck. Lanturn was everywhere i looked and ludicargo was huge too.
