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UK EX UNSEEN Tournament Dates

Ben, if you have time, could you update the first post with info on the Falkirk prereleases, which will actually take place in Falkirk this time. :biggrin:

At this time, Falkirk will be holding 4 prereleases.

Dates:
-13th/14th August
-20th/21st August

Venue (for all 4 events):
MEGAZONE
102-104 Graham's Road
Falkirk
FK2 7BZ

The venue is about a 5 or 10 minutes walk from Falkirk Grahamston train station, so there's no excuse for you not to attend. :smile:

Times: Each of the prereleases are supposed to start at 12.30pm in Megazone. This time might vary on Sundays when league takes place. League usually takes place from 10am-2pm on Sundays, but due to these times of the prerelease, league will probably only be from 10-11.30, with an hour lunch break. Will LMK with further info on this. The events are expected to end around 6pm.

Cost: £12 for one event, £20 for a "weekend ticket", which is admission to both prereleases that weekend.
 
sceppy said:
Isn't there one in Exeter?It says so on their website.
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When this thread started there were only 3 Tourneys Sanctioned I will check and update as I can. If you know the details post them here and we'll update the thread :)
 
Sceppy, it's isn't sanctioned yet on the TPfG website or the POP website. If you have the info, please post.
 
ukpokemonpro said:
Freddy we're just trying to confirm your numbers as you appear to be jumping from a 19 player and 15 player event as you ran last time round (Not 2 x 36 players!) to 3 x 40 player events that plus the 36 player event at Slough on the 20th.

It means your players getting access to 156 players worth of product something that does not square with the 34 players that attended your last pre-releases??

Also can you please confirm that you will not be altering the prize support as you did last time?
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The last two prereleases had 28 and then 36 players, squaring off two 32 player tournaments. Your figures are from EX:Deoxys and not EX:Emerald.

This did not count any tournaments run after the EX:Deoxys events that players chose to take part in that weren't sanctioned in advance as I didn't anticipate a demand for it. We ran the tournament anyway and everyone was given the same amount of prizes for their placing too.

Prize support was ENHANCED last time, and not diminished ^_^ thanks to the generosity of Avmozz and some quick purchases of some neat plush from the local Woolworths store.
I'm unsure what else you are trying to confirm but everyone left each of the last prereleases with 10 packets and before then to celebrate our first round of prereleases I donated the judges' prize support to enable the winners to pick up not one extra, not two but HALF A BOX of extra product for each age group winner in the two tournaments ^_^ :clap:

Still waiting for my information to be changed, are you trying to get people to go to your one in Slough instead of mine? :frown:

~fK
 
Freddy we can only pass on what we are told.. why do TPFG quote 19 and 15 as your numbers for your last pre-release? Did not all the players get reported? Are they wrong? Can you confirm the prize breakdown for this next tournament if it isn't going to be the same as everywhere else?

I can certainly confirm that Slough on the 20th will include the following extras on top of the 10 boosters to each player, badge and promo card:

A deck box and sleeves to all players
A framed pokemon picture for each of the first 50 payers
A league badge from last year - the ones the UK never saw officially - players choice - they're very elusive so get them on the 20th :)
A 2005 Gym Challenge Promo Card (Rayquazza Stamped GYM CHALLENGE) for the winner in each age group
A 2005 Regional Challenge Promo Card (Deoxys Stamped Regional Challenge) for the winner in each age group
The Lucky Dip will be there for each player
Free copies of Pokemon World will be there whilst stocks last and everyone will have the chance to win other pokegoodies from the SE Challenge stock.
 
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ukpokemonpro said:
Freddy we can only pass on what we are told.. why do TPFG quote 19 and 15 as your numbers for your last pre-release? Did not all the players get reported? Are they wrong? Can you confirm the prize breakdown for this next tournament if it isn't going to be the same as everywhere else?
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I don't see why any of these points should be discussed if you aren't asking everyone else who is running a prerelease to do so too. It's a normal prerelease and we give what they send us plus more if we can. Or do you just want to know exactly what we give out so that you can attempt to get people to come to your tournament by raising the stakes? How sad if it's true.

Please stop targeting me NoPoke and ukpokémonpro just because you happen to be running a prerelease in the same town at around the same time thank you. I have reported this thread to the mods.

~fK
 
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Guys, don't argue. We don't want this to turn into another States thread.

Freddy, I'm sure it's not Ben's or Ian's intention to draw more players to his Slough PR with more goods. It appears to me as though a lot of us are confused about how much product you are ordering. It might be that you're buying it for other tournaments or you might be modifying the prize structure; IMO it doesn't seem all that clear from what you've posted. If you can just clarify it for us, that'll sort it out.

If we want to increase player support in the UK, and make a better experience of the game UK-wide, we can't have our top TOs, League Leaders and Professors arguing over something as trivial as a Prerelease. We need to have the leaders and organisers working TOGETHER, not clashing with each other. Unfortunately, it is difficult as the Prereleases are all around the same time, but fighting about drawing people to tournaments is NOT the solution.

Freddy, the prerelease that Ben's running is while you're at Worlds. People who go to your prereleases will still go to your prereleases when you get back. The people who go to your prereleases will still go to yours as they probably like the tournaments you hold and the atmosphere ( I can't tell; I've not been but it seems that way.). They could go to PlayerCon as well, they have the choice. They can go and enjoy the tournament and get the cards they want and have a good time. The players have the choice to do so...the players who really enjoy your prereleases will give it a miss and go to yours. The players who wish to see what another TO is like or who wants another opportunity to get the cards will go to another Prerelease.

IMO, The players are not YOURS. They have the right to go to other tournaments. Although, if they like the tournaments you run, they'll keep going to yours. If they don't, they won't. That simple.

Just my two pence.
 
Unfortunately what we are seeing is the usual "biggin it up" - Certainly FK fails to answer if the Official figures from TPfG are incorrect?

Nobody is targetting Freddy here but when he first posts that only 6 packs are guaranteed instead of the 10 that is Normal as issued by TPfG then people are bound to take note.. Add to that an inflation in numbers and Slough now getting 4 pre-releases instead of the normal two and of course we are confused.

The only reason I agreed to do a pre-release in Slough was because I thought the players would lose out on an opportunity whilst FK is in the US. Originally we planned to run a variety of Tourneys on the 20th to coinside with Slough's PlayerCon and that is why the prizes are so great we are looking to increase the player base and encourage new players in.

We all know that EX Unseen Forces is a set that players want to get their hands on and that Pre-releases are a great way to grab the product at a great discount .. BUT.. that must be tempered by TO's not being allowed to saturate the market with product at the expense of retailers who keep us all fed with product long term.

All I am expressing is surprise that Slough goes from 2 pre-releases with 34 players 19 and 15 as officially reported by the OP provider (TPfG) to according to FK - 3 x 32 player tourneys and the 36 player tourney I am running on the 20th and 3 x 8 player sides.. as I said before that's 156 players worth of product in an area that previously only needed 34 .. even if you double the players a great achievement if possible we're still looking at 88 players worth of product not being used??

I am surprized that FK is getting that much product .. that is all I am saying and I will eat my snorlax hat if we actually get 156 players worth of Tourney play done..

Freddy asks why nobody else is being asked these questions .. maybe it's because nobody else posted only 6 boosters as prizes and nobody else has asked for a 458% increase in their pre-release requirements.

Way to go if it's achieved but based on the previous figures it's not something that seems that likely :(
 
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*sigh*

I'll ignore 'pro's posts as they are just antagonistic.

'guru - I mentioned this before, but will say it again. we had an average of 2 x 32 players for our last prereleases so I'm ordering enough for 3 prereleases as we nearly had to start turning people away. I'm certain with this set and a natural gap w/ Worlds (there will not be any league events that weekend) we'll still have 3 x 32 players coming as it's a great set.
Obviously any extra stock left over I either purchase to sell on or send back to TPFG, it's not that big a deal.
But yah business as usual and normal prereleases for 14th, 28th August and 4th September.

~fK
 
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Hmmmmm where to start...........

Ok so here is my view on this rubbish that has been posted:

If at the last pre in Slough there was only 15 or so people then full credit to Burger King for the very clever use of mirrors! oh no wait a minute I seem to remember that I had to drop out and allow Freddy to buy back my place to allow a last minute arrival to take part.......guess that makes a full house huh ;-p
The place was so packed that some of the parents could see they were getting in the way and I offered to keep an eye on them whilst they went off to the shops, but those that did stay also commented about this being their fav place to bring the kids to play.......duly noted by me as my eldest Harry wants to attend the league after worlds.

With regards to the prize support (ignoring what I bought along and donated, which btw Freddy had no idea about till we arrived) well in short it was fantastic with two tables full of Pokemôn stuff that got the kids very excited (me well I think the wife would have been a little upset if I bought home a Torchic plush to take to bed, so I settled for a my boosters and a Burger). During the prize presentation I remember one of the parents mentioning that there was no way that the door money could have covered all those prizes.......it looked like the Pokemôn section at Toys R Us had been sick........goodies galore everywhere!!!

All in all it was a very well run event and Freddy and his team have the full respect of not only the kids but also the parents! The venue is also great for kids and parents. The town of Slough is Very large (good shops) and only a few minutes from the M25 so easy access plus great parking.

I shall refrain from comparing this to other events.......for now!

Jealousy is such a sad thing......

Mozz :)
 
We can only report that which TPfG tell us - They said 19 and 15 hence my question did they get the figures wrong or did they go unreported?

If the Local OP provider is under the impression that there were only 19 and 15 players then there is going to be a problem with stock unless they are disuaded that is the case.

Certainly the rise over the figures for EX Deoxys is great and to be commended! But it would help if the prizes were correctly stated right from the start.. and if the official sanctioning didn't still quote 6 boosters.. or as the Deoxys Tourney did draft, 6 boosters and extra prizes for higher places.. IT MAYBE not what happened at the tourney but if you post a lower than what is provided prize package people take note!

I am glad you provided some extra support Avmozz and I may yet be eating my hat but then again if TPfG don't get their figures right there may be too many players and not enough support.

Jealously no - concern from mis-information and incorrect posting yes.
 
I was being given the same figures too, And being told that the pre-releases were being scaled back too because of concerns over the quantity of product consumed this way. Neither of which were consistant with FKs posts. I REALLY WISH THAT THE TOURNAMENT RESULTS WERE VISIBLE TO ALL. secrecy is bad imho.

It is not difficult to conclude that different messges are given to different people or worse that different organisers are handled in different ways. I have a paid venue so getting the numbers correct is important to avoid loosing money. It is my choice to use a paid venue. So I'm not grumbling about that. However I'm also told that I have to return unused product promos and badges. Which I do. The option to buy up lots of unused product at a discount is not available to me. Its not jealousy but I am left feeling that there are favourites.

But like I said a first step would be to actually have visibility of attndance at tournaments. i don't see why we need the secrecy since Full names are used in the ranking tables along with location.
 
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Am I being stupid as I believe we are completely missing the point here?

This game is about FUN!!!

Surely these discussions on the forum should be about how can we make tournaments better for the players that do attend!

This is a PUBLIC forum!
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Russfierce said:
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Am I being stupid as I believe we are completely missing the point here?

This game is about FUN!!!

Surely these discussions on the forum should be about how can we make tournaments better for the players that do attend!

This is a PUBLIC forum!
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Exactly what I was trying to get at in my post.

Since I am now a Prof. and Judge, I'm gonna do all I can to make the Scottish Leagues and Tournaments run smoothly and fun. I've also set up a new forum for the Scottish Pokemon TCG players, which is now in my sig. I'm gonna try to run a raffle at the Unseen Forces PreReleases in Falkirk as well. We need to be improving the game in the UK by committing to it and not having constant arguments about players and secrecy. Why can't we trust our TOs? We should and I certainly do.

To remove as much secrecy as possible I am requesting of all UK TOs on the Gym to post their attendance of all their Prereleases on this thread. I'm hoping that Ben can add that info to the front page so that this sort of incident does not occur again. We can trust the TOs to give the real number.

We need to improve the game and the current OP in the UK. It's good at the moment, but IMO it can be better. Trying to get this started is a step in the right direction.

Oh, and Ben, if the hat you were gonna eat is your Prof. Cap, could you send it to me instead? =\
 
Why do i feel that this is going beyond just talking about pre-release. Couldn't we just stay talking about pre-reg and venues and what is planned to happen?!

P.s Freddy i may come to your PR
 
PokemonSteve said:
Why do i feel that this is going beyond just talking about pre-release. Couldn't we just stay talking about pre-reg and venues and what is planned to happen?!

P.s Freddy i may come to your PR
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Things got a little confusing about numbers and it probably trailed off a little since then.

I'm certainly going to the falkirk ones and I might be going to one south of the border...

Anyone else going to the Falkirk ones?
 
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