Werewolf XIV: Team Rocket's Trap - TOWN WINS

[ultimatedra]

It has been several days - can we please get an update?

 

[Lucario EX]

Yoshi- finally started paying attention to the debate, only to find that a decision had already been reached.

"Alright then, kill me if you must. I knew from the start that we were all doomed, " he stated calmly.

"How can you just sit by and do nothing to help us?! I don't even care whether you're part of Team Rocket, you deserve to die either way!" one of the younger Trainers shouted, before tackling Yoshi- and strangling him.

He was:

Yoshi-:

You are Volkner, the bored Gym Leader of Sunyshore City.

During the night, you may PM me the name of one player in the game. If that player uses their role during the same night, it will fail.

Win condition: Town wins.

Begin Night 8!
Phase ends June 20, at 11:59 PM (EST)

Azure Kite has been replaced by PkB_

 

[PkB_]

Just posting to say that I am in the game now and that I got my role.

 

[PkB_]

Guys, I hate to start off my time in this game like this but I'll be out of town most likely without internet untill next saturday.

 

[Lucario EX]

Pikamaster remained alert, busy planning his next attempts to draw attention away from his friends. He knew immediately what the slight sound of footsteps nearby meant for him.

"Come on out, you coward!" he announced, standing up.

A few whispers could be heard, then the only door of the room swung open.

"We know there's nothing you can do to stop us. All of your Pokemon are exhausted. Nice work sneaking in the other two, though," the Team Rocket leader commented.

"Nothing I can do? Maybe my Pokemon are tired, but we're tougher than that! Pika! Vee! Aero! Poli! This is the end, but let's do everything we can to take them down with us!" Pikamaster shouted, as all four of his Pokemon appeared from the shadows.

"Tch. Annoying brat. Vileplume, Arbok, let's go!" his opponent commanded.

"Vee, use Psychic! Aero, keep them distracted!" Espeon dashed forward, telekinetically tying Arbok into a knot as it attempted to strangle Pikamaster. Aerodactyl flew out of reach of both Pokemon, shooting Hyper Beams as frequently as possible at Vileplume, forcing it to use all of its energy to dodge.

"Enough of this! Murkrow, finish that brat off!" the woman shouted, releasing a third Pokemon. The Dark-type flew toward Red, attacking with Drill Peck. Poliwrath stepped into its path, grabbed the smaller Pokemon, and threw it against the wall.

Pikamaster grinned, confident that he would at least do some good before his death. As soon as he decided what attack Pika would use, he screamed once, falling to the floor.

"Future Sight!? Pika, what... happened?" he managed to ask. Pikachu looked equally confused, though. "I guess... that's it. Pika, it's time." he whispered. Pikachu nodded solemnly, then scampered to the window, absorbing energy from the thunderstorm raging outside.


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Half of the building had been destroyed sometime during the night by an explosion. Pikamaster's body was eventually found in the wreckage, but no one else seemed to have been killed. His Aerodactyl was the only one of his Pokemon accounted for; it had been flying around the center of the island, occasionally trying to attack the people Pikamaster had suspected. After the prehistoric Pokemon finally tired out, everyone still alive came out of hiding to try to learn who was responsible for the death of the strongest Trainer among them.


He was:

Pikamaster:

You are Red, the Pokemon League Champion.

You have several Pokemon, and each one can help you only once during the game. Once during the night, you may PM me with the name of one player, and one of your Pokemon to use that Pokemon's ability.

Espeon can try to learn the alignment of another player.
Pikachu can paralyze another player, preventing them from using their role for one night.
Aerodactyl can carry another player away from the area, preventing them from being affected by any roles, or using their own.
Poliwrath can kill another player.

Win condition: Town wins

Begin Day 9
5 votes to lynch

Phase ends on June 26th, at 11:59 PM (EST)
(Note the earlier phase end. I'm shortening the phases, since there aren't so many people left to hear from.)

 

[jellyfisher]

So last night I attempted to use my role on PokeChamp. However the wolf used a role blocker on me, and my role failed.

Here is the list of the unconfirmed players.

2. pokemonfreak5
9. Jason
12. Benson
15. Chanman
33. PokeChampofPokeBeach


I do not think that Jason is the wolf mainly because it looks like Pikamaster thought he was a townie. Plus I just don't think that he has been acting like a wolf in any way.

I'm gonna add Chanman to the Townie list for reasons I really don't think favour explanation.

So if Benson has a good enough reason, then we can take Chanman off the list. Of course, he could be the wolf trying to look like a townie by claiming a random persons innocence. So Benson, I think now is the time to explain why you think that Chanman is a townie.

And if we are able to take Chanman off the list, then we end up with this.


2. pokemonfreak5
12. Benson
33. PokeChampofPokeBeach


Now, I think that both Benson and PokeChamp look more suspicious than pokemonfreak5. So I think that we should consider lynching one of them.

So right now, I think that Benson should start explaining since he didn't have a very good argument yesterday.

 

[Chanman]

Interesting night, but there is little info given. There isn't much to go on, so we have to make decisions on the past day i guess. We are hopefully getting closer to the last wolf, as it seems it can role block and kill (judging from jellyfisher's post) Unless there is an indy, I think we should win soon. Also, I should note that we should continue our suspicions on PokeChamp.

 

[Benson]

This's gonna sound pretty careless, but I had reason to believe Chanman was Yellow, it was a culmination of one of Pikamaster's posts along side his own, and defending Joegg. Though I can't think what it was. :/
Just putting it out there, READ MY EARLY FLAVOUR TEXT! There's no reason to suspect me if you ignore my cover up from Azure Kite's early game question.

 

[Jason]

Chanman = clone more likely??
Posted with Mobile style...

 

[pokemonfreak5]

Hmmm....

Certainly a few interesting things to take note of during the night.

The wolves killed PikaMaster. Duh, didn't see that one happening. It's nice to know the last remaining wolf is being predictable. Makes it easier on us. But by pointed out it was predictable mean that the they're now going to be unpredictable??????

"We know there's nothing you can do to stop us. All of your Pokemon are exhausted. Nice work sneaking in the other two, though," the Team Rocket leader commented

^Anyone got any ideas as to what that means?

"Future Sight!? Pika, what... happened?" he managed to ask. Pikachu looked equally confused, though. "I guess... that's it. .....

This paragraph concerns me. It seems like what killed Red (or at least had a part in doing so), was a future sight attack. A future sight that someone must have set up a few nights previously. No recently deceased roles have had this power, so someone still alive has done this. And then why did they pick PikaMaster?

Pika, it's time." he whispered. Pikachu nodded solemnly, then scampered to the window, absorbing energy from the thunderstorm raging outside,

His Aerodactyl was the only one of his Pokemon accounted for; it had been flying around the center of the island, occasionally trying to attack the people Pikamaster had suspected

These two lines make me think we might have some revenge affects happening soon. Another thing to keep an eye on.

Now to the juicy stuff.

Arbok, Vileplume, Murkrow. Sounds exactly like Arianna. However, there's nothing to suggest Arianna has role blocking powers. And if you read the update it makes it sound like she was using all of her Pokemon in the attempt to kill Red. Because of this I believe it's extremely unlikely the wolves roleblocked Jellyfisher....

So Jellyfisher. You were "role blocked" and prevented from using your role. The role we were all keenly awaiting a demonstration of and relying on helping us eliminate extra suspects. You didn't really give us much info on this, and launched straight into the finger pointing game. Let's just say that the wolves can roleblock (unlikely for multiple reasons, a few I've already mentioned). Why would they roleblock you. They know you have a killing role, and for them, you killing townies is a good thing. This would only make sense if PokechampofPokebeack is a wolf!

DUN DUN DUUN!

Actually to be truly honest i'm not even convinced you are a wolf Pokechamp, but more on that later.

My gut says Jellyfisher is playing us, still. And this late in the game, I find going with your gut is usually a good idea.
My gut also says that Jason, Benson are town. I would have added Chanman to that list because of Benson's claim but now in late of recent info I've removed him.
I know there's no evidence confirming me to be town yet, but I assure you I am and have the town's best interest in mind. And hey, who wants to know all the roles in a WW game anyway? Mystery makes it FUN!
Ahem.

VOTE:Jellyfisher

Sorry man but you need to go. We still have the numbers to outlive the wolf(s) at this stage, but we can't afford to have an unknown like you sitting around. I also believe that with your death (even if you ARE innocent) we'll start to get a pretty good idea of who the wolf is.

One last note. KEEP YOUR EYE'S PEELED. There's a bucketload of info out there. Especially at this stage of the game. This is where we can start to put the puzzle pieces together.

 

[Benson]

"We know there's nothing you can do to stop us. All of your Pokemon are exhausted. Nice work sneaking in the other two, though," the Team Rocket leader commented.

Pikamaster claimed he had other pokemon earlier, but only had those 4.
I still believe Lance has a wait period for Hyper beam, and any oddities to this pattern were Pikamaster's "Aero"

 

[jellyfisher]

Arbok, Vileplume, Murkrow. Sounds exactly like Arianna. However, there's nothing to suggest Arianna has role blocking powers. And if you read the update it makes it sound like she was using all of her Pokemon in the attempt to kill Red. Because of this I believe it's extremely unlikely the wolves roleblocked Jellyfisher....

You saw Pikamaster's role, correct? Did you see anything about him blocking the wolves other powers when they target him?

And you say that Arianna has a Arbok, Vileplume and a Murkrow? How can you see that list of pokemon, and say that there's nothing to suggest role blocking powers? Did you forget about Vileplume and sleep powder?

I don't know what idiot role blocked me two nights ago, but great job, you cost the town a life.

So here is something more in my defense. Pikamaster being role blocked. And you said that you didn't understand this part of the update.

"We know there's nothing you can do to stop us. All of your Pokemon are exhausted. Nice work sneaking in the other two, though," the Team Rocket leader commented.

It makes sense if you take into the fact that the wolves have role blocking powers doesn't it?

And finally, I would like to bring up this.

"This shouldn't be so easy. Be on your guard for any kind of-" she began, then glanced toward the upper level of the building.

"Hyper Beam!" someone shouted, from the direction she was looking in. A ray of energy shot toward the female, slamming her into the wall.

One of the other Rockets looked back at her, then both of them ran, the Pokemon that had attacked them unable to move again so soon after using Hyper Beam.

One man strode through the hallways, clearly searching for someone. Suddenly, he heard the sound of an explosion from somewhere nearby. The building shook slightly, and the smell of smoke pervaded the air. Fearing another attack by Team Rocket, he sped up, turning a corner to see one room completely obliterated by the explosion, and another destroyed by the resulting fire.

His target stood there, watching the blaze. The humanoid Pokemon at his side turned, stepping into a defensive stance. The young man noticed his Pokemon's reaction, then spun to face the same direction.

"Wait! This is not what it seems. I didn't cause this! If it wasn't for Lucario, I would have been killed," the Trainer protested, apparently sensing the other man's intention.

"No. I don't believe you. It's too much of a coincidence," he replied, before releasing an enormous Pokemon. "Hyper Beam!"

The indigo-clad Trainer tackled his Lucario, shoving it away from the blast of energy, before being knocked backward into the blaze. His attacker glanced sympathetically at the distraught Steel-type, then released another of his own Pokemon to put out the fire.

So here we have the second and third night update with me killing in them. If I really couldn't use my role two times in a row, than you wouldn't find this.

So Jellyfisher. You were "role blocked" and prevented from using your role. The role we were all keenly awaiting a demonstration of and relying on helping us eliminate extra suspects. You didn't really give us much info on this, and launched straight into the finger pointing game. Let's just say that the wolves can roleblock (unlikely for multiple reasons, a few I've already mentioned). Why would they roleblock you. They know you have a killing role, and for them, you killing townies is a good thing. This would only make sense if PokechampofPokebeack is a wolf!

Okay, Pikamaster said that he thought I should target either Benson, Chanman or PokeChamp. But how would the wolf know for sure that I would pick one of them? Keep in mind that the wolf has no idea if I am an Indy, who will kill whoever I think is a wolf, and ignore the town's suggestions, or a townie. So yeah, the wolf has no idea what I will do during the night.

I would also like to ask, how would I benefit from lying about being able to use my role every night? I just don't see how that would help me.

Actually to be truly honest i'm not even convinced you are a wolf Pokechamp, but more on that later.

My gut says Jellyfisher is playing us, still. And this late in the game, I find going with your gut is usually a good idea.
My gut also says that Jason, Benson are town. I would have added Chanman to that list because of Benson's claim but now in late of recent info I've removed him.

So you think that Benson is a townie, and you aren't sure if PokeChamp is a wolf? If you take those two off the list, than I would be very interested to see who is on your list. So would you please make a post on who you think is a wolf?

VOTE:Jellyfisher

Sorry man but you need to go. We still have the numbers to outlive the wolf(s) at this stage, but we can't afford to have an unknown like you sitting around. I also believe that with your death (even if you ARE innocent) we'll start to get a pretty good idea of who the wolf is.

So why do you think I am so dangerous to keep around? I said it before, as far as I know there is no harmful Indy role besides a last man standing role. And you seem to be forgetting about the two clones. We have no way of knowing if they will just win with the town, or if they have to be the last two left to win. So yes, if the town keeps killing townies, than it is possible that we will lose.

Also, I think you'll find Jellyfisher probably can't kill this night, the only reason he got a mention on nights 4 & 5 is Pikamaster was responsible for Diaz's death. As the video games go, miss a hyperbeam and you don't have to recharge.

So I would like to point out that Benson was the one who questioned if I could use my role twice in a row. Now, saying that the wolf does have a role blocker, wouldn't he try to find out if I could use my role every night? Seriously, to me this looks like a wolf trying to find out something without being to obvious about it.

Simply because Flint is related to my role. I have no more evidence than my character description, but I do believe it wouldn't be mentioned otherwise.

So in this post, are you saying that it actually mentions Flint in your role? Because in this post.

I don't mind you killing me, it really doesn't matter to my role that has the same effect as Cynthia.

You say that you have the same role as Cynthia and the other vanilla roles. And my problem with that is what I am seeing in all of the vanilla roles.

jpulice:

You are Cynthia, the champion of the Sinnoh League.

You have no special abilities at this time.

Win condition: Town wins.

Blitzer:

You are Riley, owner of Iron Island, and a user of Aura.

You have no special abilities at this time.

Win condition: Town wins.

joegg/Everyone Esplode Noaw/smacktack15:

You are Silver. You don't really mind that the championship was a trap, as you despise Team Rocket and are happy for an opportunity for their weakness to be exposed.

You have no special abilities at this time.

Win condition: Town wins

None of them state anything about other characters in the game. If you really were a vanilla townie, than it would just have a description of YOU.

Now, I said that G landers was looking for me. So I know what it says when someone is out there looking for you. It won't just mention them in your description, it will say that they are looking for you. Plus, if Flint really were looking for you, he would have gotten to you long ago. But yeah, I do not think that Flint is even in this game.

So I think that it is very possible that you are a wolf trying to look like a vanilla townie.

So I might as well do this.

Vote: Benson

For now I think that you need to do the most explaining.

 

[Benson]

My role has no special effects, true, but my description is "You are the younger brother of Flint"
Doubt it'd be mentioned if he wasn't in the game,

 

[PokeChampofPokeBeach]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think in the Pokemon-canon does Flint have a younger brother. Or any sibling for that matter. So, either you're lying or Lucario EX got creative. Judging by the fact that, so far, all roles have been accurate and all roles have been real characters of the Anime, Manga, and Video Games, that the former is true and not the latter.

For now...

Vote: Benson

 

[jellyfisher]

My role has no special effects, true, but my description is "You are the younger brother of Flint"
Doubt it'd be mentioned if he wasn't in the game,

Well I guess that sounds good enough for now.

I think we should win soon. Also, I should note that we should continue our suspicions on PokeChamp.

Okay, I agree with this 100 percent. One of my biggest problems with PokeChamp is that almost everyone here has at least something to make them look like a townie but him.

And now I have even more against him.

If I were a Werewolf, I would be doing everything in my power to kill you. Especially if I were the last one, which I think is the vital point here. Have I acted like the last remaining Werewolf in any way? Don't you think I'd be a tad desperate at this point? And yet, I am for once suggesting to just let you be for now, and to dedicate our remaining energies to the last remaining Werewolf.

With all of your suspicion towards me, I have come to acceptance with the fact that you will probably end up killing me during the night. If I were the last Werewolf, tell me, why would I take this chance? If I were the last remaining Werewolf, I would have no choice but to eliminate you as quickly from the game as possible.

But I haven't done any of this.

If you don't believe me, remember that I was the first person to bring up that Pikamaster could be lying (keep in mind that was several game days ago, I now have reason to believe otherwise and in fact I believe he is telling the truth about his role)

Now I'm sure we all remember my argument against these posts. But now there even stronger. Because if he is the wolf, than aside from the killing power he also has the role blocker. So he can make himself look even better by defending someones innocence and then during the night block their role. And when that person shows up alive every update no one will suspect him of being a wolf!

So when he was saying how important it was to find Lance, his intention was to say how we should keep me around during the day. And then when it was night just role block me instead of killing me.

We also have what I was saying last game day, almost always being neutral and summing things up.

Unvote: Benson

Vote: PokeChampofPokeBeach

I tried to get rid of him yesterday and last night for a reason.

 

[Chanman]

I have to agree with jellyfisher's post. It would make sense that he could be Arianna. The wolves in this game have powerful roles (excluding 1 wolf, Elite 4 Allen), and I am sure the person who is role blocking people must be the wolf. If the game doesn't end after this lynch, there has to be an indy among us.

Vote: PokeChampofPokeBeach

 

[ultimatedra]

Vote: PokeChampofPokeBeach

 

[pokemonfreak5]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think in the Pokémon-canon does Flint have a younger brother. Or any sibling for that matter. So, either you're lying or Lucario EX got creative. Judging by the fact that, so far, all roles have been accurate and all roles have been real characters of the Anime, Manga, and Video Games, that the former is true and not the latter.

In Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, Flint is the third member of the Sinnoh Elite Four. He is friends with Volkner, the Gym Leader of Sunyshore City. Flint's younger brother is Buck. His grandfather runs the Battleground.

^Do some research before you make a claim like that.

Hence my thoughts as to why Benson is innocent. That's a pretty clever and creative claim to make up yourself, so I believe it is in his role. Add to it his early Fire references and you have a pretty convincing argument that Benson is Town.

Urgh....

I'm Really in 2 minds at the moment. I still don't think the wolf is the roleblocker. Clarifying what I said before, from the list of Arianna's Pokemon, it is POSSIBLE that one of them could roleblock, but as it was shown in the update, she ued all three in the attack. I think it would have been mentioned if one of her Pokemon had already been used for something else that night.

It does look a lot like PokeChamp is the wolf.

HOWEVER!

I am still not convinced Jellyfisher that you are town.

"We know there's nothing you can do to stop us. All of your Pokemon are exhausted. Nice work sneaking in the other two, though," the Team Rocket leader commented.
It makes sense if you take into the fact that the wolves have role blocking powers doesn't it?

I still don't quite get what you're trying to say here Jellyfisher. Would you mind clarifying again.


The best way for an Indy to get on the town's good side is to convince them he's helping them find the wolves. Just because you accuse PokeChamp doesn’t prove your innocence sorry.

I’ll sum up again.

We KNOW there is a wolf left, we THINK that MIGHT be Pokechamp.
We KNOW there is a killing role, it is LIKELY this is Jellyfisher, we DO NOT know his alignment.
We KNOW the wolf’s win condition (Equal Number of town and wolf).
We KNOW the wolves are NOT close to completing this condition. (The ratio is 9:1 atm plenty of leeway even with multiple night kills)
We DO NOT KNOW any possible Indy win conditions out there.
It is NOT SAFE to assume that because they’re usually last man standing that that is the only option and is guaranteed. That is like saying no one plays deck X in your area, so there is no point playtesting against it for Worlds....
We therefore DO NOT KNOW, how close any possible Indys are to completing their own win conditions.

I know you’re not going to like this Jellyfisher, but at the moment leaving you alive is a risk. Lynching you will give us the knowledge needed about your role, and we can go from there. Even if you turn out to be town, simply knowing this fact for certain is almost worth your death. If you are town, you should be able to see my reasoning behind this and why this is important. As great as you’re role is, it’s beginning to outlive its purpose. After you’re death, we should easily be able to pick off the next wolf and win the game. And if you are town then you’re still technically on the winning side.

So for the moment my vote stays.
PokeChamp is still a lynch option, but i still believe Jellyfisher is the more pressing matter.

 

[jellyfisher]

I'm Really in 2 minds at the moment. I still don't think the wolf is the roleblocker. Clarifying what I said before, from the list of Arianna's Pokemon, it is POSSIBLE that one of them could roleblock, but as it was shown in the update, she ued all three in the attack. I think it would have been mentioned if one of her Pokemon had already been used for something else that night.

Why should it have been mentioned? Look at DarthPika's role. Did you see it in any of the updates? Or the night Diaz was killed, we know that multiple people target him. Did it show that? Or the time TheKing used his role. Just because it wasn't shown in the update doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The best way for an Indy to get on the town's good side is to convince them he's helping them find the wolves. Just because you accuse PokeChamp doesn’t prove your innocence sorry.

Yeah, I know that accusing PokeChamp doesn't prove my innocence. But I would like to point this out again. Why waste a lynch on me when the wolf will just end up killing me during the night? Think about it, if you really don't believe that I was role blocked, then it should seem obvious what the wolf's next choice is going to be.

"We know there's nothing you can do to stop us. All of your Pokemon are exhausted. Nice work sneaking in the other two, though," the Team Rocket leader commented.
It makes sense if you take into the fact that the wolves have role blocking powers doesn't it?

I still don't quite get what you're trying to say here Jellyfisher. Would you mind clarifying again.

Okay, we know that Pikamaster had someone block his role. Now if he has four Pokemon and two were blocked then wouldn't it make sense for the wolf to say that to him?

We KNOW the wolf’s win condition (Equal Number of town and wolf).
We KNOW the wolves are NOT close to completing this condition. (The ratio is 9:1 atm plenty of leeway even with multiple night kills)
We DO NOT KNOW any possible Indy win conditions out there.
It is NOT SAFE to assume that because they’re usually last man standing that that is the only option and is guaranteed. That is like saying no one plays deck X in your area, so there is no point playtesting against it for Worlds....
We therefore DO NOT KNOW, how close any possible Indys are to completing their own win conditions.

This is what I have been trying to say. If an Indy role would be completed before the game ended, than he would just win with the town! Look at some of the other games. There are plenty where an Indy has won with the town.

So for the moment my vote stays.
PokeChamp is still a lynch option, but i still believe Jellyfisher is the more pressing matter.

And my final point is that we don't know what the x'ed out part of the wolf's role is! For all we know it could become deadly if there are few enough people left in the game. So I still believe that the wolf is by far the biggest threat. No matter what.

 

[Lucario EX]

Vote Tally:

PokeChampofPokeBeach: 3
Jellyfisher: 1
Benson: 1

5 votes to lynch.