Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

What's Wrong with this Format?

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This format is on par with MD-BW format that we had for so little time. I hate it so much.

J kinda already said everything that needed to be said, not a large enough card pool, decks are much harder to just make work then they were last format (last format we had enough starters and drawpower that you could at least make a legitimate deck out of almost any card, which I commonly did). Plus, the format, yeah I know there are a lot of decks, just seems repetitive. Last format the SP mirror was one of skill and finesse, one where you had many options, as did your opponent. When I play Stage 1 mirrors, it just feels boring.

Your sig proudly lists your wins with Beedrill G. A donk deck. Not exactly a deck that gave one many options, nor did your opponent have many, ideally, you gave them none. You might have made other decks, but I never heard of them. Yes, the trainer and setup engines last format were stronger, but that's the nature of a constantly-changing game.

But yeah, thank you to J for pointing out what I've been thinking all along, and the decision by P!P that caused me to quit this game.
Then if you quit, why are you still complaining about it?
 
(last format we had enough starters and drawpower that you could at least make a legitimate deck out of almost any card, which I commonly did)

Impossible to take a comment like that seriously (unless it's meant to be ironic).

I enjoyed the SP format, but I don't remember it as one where 'almost any card' could make a legitimate deck (more like the opposite). Neither do I recall you doing anything whatsoever to make it so.

Porii, you played in one format with a subpar donk deck. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but it isn't based on any understanding of previous formats (or the last one for that matter).
 
It´s so funny, i´m sure you can find a thread like this every year since the Gym is up :D

This Format is quit healty compared to older ones. It is corrct that it woud be much better if we had the japanese format but we have to live with it.
 
Pokemon that play supporting roles have way too much HP and Pokemon that have huge damage outputs have too much HP.
 
Probably best to lock this thread since we aren't getting anywhere. I still regret even
making this thread in the first place so yeah vaporeon, no need to drag it on.
 
Probably best to lock this thread since we aren't getting anywhere. I still regret even
making this thread in the first place so yeah vaporeon, no need to drag it on.

Once created, threads belong to everyone. The mods won't lock it with just a request from the OP. Personally, I think threads like these are healthy.
 
We've pretty much got all of those

Built around Basic (ZPST)
Built around Stage 1 (Yanmega/Donphan/Zoroark, Cinccino varients)
Built around Stage 2 (Magnezone/Emboar, Gothitelle/Reuniclus)
Stage 1 + Basic (Donphan/Dragons)
Stage 2 + Basic (Reshiboar, Reshiphlosion)
Stage 2 + Stage 1 + Basic (Reshiram/Typhlosion/Ninetales, Mew Prime/Yanmega/Vileplume)

Great point! I guess then it comes down to the power balance of the cards. Just like the old days... either the average power level of cards created is way to low, or the average power level of what gets played is too high. :lol:

Odd though it sounds, perhaps a bit of both. A few cards (be they Pokemon, Trainers, or perhaps even a certain Energy card) are just a bit too good... while so many other cards lately have seemed phoned in, or formulaic where the formula equals filler.
 
Pokemon that play supporting roles have way too much HP and Pokemon that have huge damage outputs have too much HP.

If it were up to you we'd be playing with 50 HP Basic Pokemon that do C for 10 all games and THEN you would call it balanced. There are good cards and bad cards. There are good players and players. There are players who adapt and others who whine.

Easy to pick apart which of those everyone on this thread is.
 
What's wrong with this format is people who have no life outside of Pokemon that make threads like this and complain about every little thing possible.
 
I already got your point Professor Elm, it's one thing to complain for the sake of complaining and another for a reason expressing concern with problems going on with the Pokemon TCG itself. Please don't try to make this worse than what it already is...
 
I cant believe people are complaining about the format. People always need something to complain about I guess. Thats why this thread is made every single season. Nothing is wrong with this format. STOP CRYING AND MAN UP!
 
I'm comparing this format to last, since they are the only 2 I have played in, I don't really need a whole lot of past experience to see this.

I quit, and then posted here, my first TCG post in a while because I agreed with the OP.

By any card I don't just meen Beedrill, I mean any card. Fun decks last format were fun decks, there's not really as many for me this format, and the reason I played was for fun.
 
If it were up to you we'd be playing with 50 HP Basic Pokemon that do C for 10 all games and THEN you would call it balanced. There are good cards and bad cards. There are good players and players. There are players who adapt and others who whine.

Easy to pick apart which of those everyone on this thread is.

Well, there should not be cards that do everything. Emboar should not have 150 hp and a amazing power and a attack that does 80. Magnezone Should have a stackable ability, 140 hp and a attack that has no damage cap. There can be good cards but no card should be able to do anything.

Look at Pidgeot from FRLG, it has an amazing power but everything else about the card is bad. Pidgeot makes a bad attack if it came down to it, even with pluspower. Look at the new Gardy. 110HP is bad but look at its power. Its amazing but everything else about the card is bad. Magnezone would not be as broken if you could use its power once a turn or if it could not be a powerful attacker when needed. Same with all the other Pokemon that should be in support roles.

So, the problem with the format is Pokemon that should be ex aren't. There is no reward for taking down something with huge HP and a powerful attack.
 
You whine so much, it just shows how bad you are at this game lol. some cards are ridiculously good, others are super bad. deal with it. if you don't like it: QUIT
 
This format really isn't that bad. T1 losses are still around, which are lame, but other than that, I like it.
 
This format really isn't that bad. T1 losses are still around, which are lame, but other than that, I like it.

When Jason Klaczynski approves of a format, one should take notice. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm positive he's seen EVERY format from base up to EPO.
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Well, there should not be cards that do everything. Emboar should not have 150 hp and a amazing power and a attack that does 80. Magnezone Should have a stackable ability, 140 hp and a attack that has no damage cap. There can be good cards but no card should be able to do anything.

Emboar and Magnezone can't do everything though. Magnezone and Emboar can't protect against weakness, they can't retreat for free, they can't get into play as easily as a Basic Pokemon, and they can't burn up energy all day long.

Players have noticed this, right? Donphan and Samurott can hit weakness, Vileplume lock decks and Mew can trap both Emboar and Magnezone, Vileplume and spread decks with Jirachi can punish your previous evolutions, and sometimes those cards run out of energy to keep going.

I also agree with Jason; this format really isn't that bad. There's a lot of balance in the game right now, though the turn 1 issue and donks are still a bit problematic.
 
I miss

"donk" decks (kingdra la, machamp sf, etc.)
SP's
decks that don't take 5-6 turns to set-up
having 95% of decks NOT end in -boar or -phlosion
GOOD poke-powers
a universal draw engine that doesnt require rare candy (claydol/uxie anyone?)

compared to these last few formats, this one is SO SLOW. I tried getting back into this format but from how slow it is, and how used to the last format I am, it couldnt be more boring. And then they hack the candy rule. C'mon.

And to those of you who say "OH WELL $35 FOR YANMEGA IS CHEAP COMPARED TO YGO'ZZZZ" fyi - Agents are Tier 1, and you can build the entire deck for $30. $40 if you go pick up 2x Kristya.

Everyone may love this 'new' format, but it is too boring.
 
I'm comparing this format to last, since they are the only 2 I have played in, I don't really need a whole lot of past experience to see this.

I quit, and then posted here, my first TCG post in a while because I agreed with the OP.

By any card I don't just meen Beedrill, I mean any card. Fun decks last format were fun decks, there's not really as many for me this format, and the reason I played was for fun.

What you find "fun" a lot of us find frustrating, apparently. If this format really is no fun, you made the right decision to quit. You can, after all, always come back if you find the game suddenly suits your tastes again. I've played Pokemon since it came out in the US, though I have taken some large "breaks" for various reasons, I don't stay gone for long. The only time I quit was when someone ill informed to me Gym Heroes wasn't actually compatible with older sets and that all my old cards would no longer be legal to use. Yeah, that was a long time ago. :lol:

You whine so much, it just shows how bad you are at this game lol. some cards are ridiculously good, others are super bad. deal with it. if you don't like it: QUIT

If you don't like people with different opinions than you, perhaps you are the one who should "just quit?" :lol: As long as Vaporeon explains him/herself (sorry Vaporeon, if you've stated your gender before I didn't retain it :redface:) I am okay with posts that I may or may not agree with. Obviously you're free to keep posting like this as well, I am merely warning you that from my perspective, it doesn't reflect well upon you.

cabd: Pretty sure Ness left the game in protest of WotC eliminating the 15+ age bracket (though the did institute the original Professor Program at the time, it was small compensation). I believe he returned shortly before I first met him... if it was him (I am horrible at remembering people :confused:). If I am confusing him with someone else, I would appreciate it being pointed out.:thumb:

eriknance: I believe Vaporeon was guilty of over exaggerating, but I must agree at least partially with his point. It makes little sense that we have a few Pokemon that are well endowed in multiple areas when the vast majority are only blessed in one. I am just no longer convinced that it is these cards that are "overpowered" and wonder if it is more a matter of a significant amount of cards being underpowered. Or possibly the "stubborn player" issue causing a lack of balance: sometimes I wonder if we have the decks we need in the format for proper balance but because everyone believes Deck A is the best, they all use it, making Deck B useless and Deck C underplayed etc.

TheGeneral:


  1. What you love I loathe about the game, apparently, or just completely disagree with the reality of. There are many fantastic Abilities/Poke-Powers this format. Universal draw engines are one thing, broken draw engines are what you are describing, and I am pretty sure your estimate on how many decks end in -boar/-phlosion is a bit off. The last point is only a bit off, however but then how many decks last format only had a different ending suffix because of how they were named: e.g. the vast majority of decks last format were less diverse.
  2. How much of that price break for Agents is due to Konami finally re-releasing staples in a cheaper form? Is that the top build for the deck or at least the most common? I dropped YGO for many reasons. What you just told me tells me that either a lot of staples were banned or reprinted in easy to obtain ways, and/or you're ignoring that most of the time if you buy a set or structure deck for one card and the rest aren't popular, you aren't going to get the rest of your money back through trades/sales. I am skeptical of your claim, but if you wish to either PM me what you consider a typical, good deck list or post it here and list how you would assemble the deck for the price you gave, I would be much obliged.
 
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