When you take what I wrote out of context and not see what I was referring to in a post made just above mine, then yes, you can say my point is mute. But since we actually can go back and review what we're speaking of, you're just rambling.
Why are people scared of Dusknoir LV. X?
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butlerforhire
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lol guys, the expression is "moot point," not mute.
Anyway grass decks that include Sceptile and/or Tangrowth SF (and no I don't need to be told that this card is "Tier 3" or whatever-- it does exist and it will be seen) both have valuable anti-Dusknoir options in the form of Poison. Sceptile GE can't inflict it, but a teched SF version certainly can. It followed by Slice Drain will lead to a poison KO at the end of the Dusknoir player's turn (following that 2nd attack obviously) if it was undamaged and hadn't retreated/Warped etc.. Slice Drain also conveniently heals 2 damage counters, which effectively negates a round of Ectoplasm. GE Grovyle can also inflict poison. Tangrowth has the added benefit of Green Heal, which also negates Ectoplasm after each turn.
Torterra/Sceptile also has the ability to shrug off Ectoplasm with the DP turtle.
I think this is what Brady1 meant when he said most grass decks have the ability to beat Dusknoir. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Anyway grass decks that include Sceptile and/or Tangrowth SF (and no I don't need to be told that this card is "Tier 3" or whatever-- it does exist and it will be seen) both have valuable anti-Dusknoir options in the form of Poison. Sceptile GE can't inflict it, but a teched SF version certainly can. It followed by Slice Drain will lead to a poison KO at the end of the Dusknoir player's turn (following that 2nd attack obviously) if it was undamaged and hadn't retreated/Warped etc.. Slice Drain also conveniently heals 2 damage counters, which effectively negates a round of Ectoplasm. GE Grovyle can also inflict poison. Tangrowth has the added benefit of Green Heal, which also negates Ectoplasm after each turn.
Torterra/Sceptile also has the ability to shrug off Ectoplasm with the DP turtle.
I think this is what Brady1 meant when he said most grass decks have the ability to beat Dusknoir. Perhaps I'm wrong.
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Your post answers nothing that he posted, infact he isn't even talking about grass decks.
Yeah, you weren't responding to this one either.
Or this one.
Or this one.
So yeah, again your post is worthless. You either responded to something that isn't there, in which case I recommend a good therapist; or you were responding to a post that was deleted, in which case you would have said so.
In any case, your attempt to argue has failed. Would you care to try again, or post random nonsense trying to justify your failed argument?
....Obviously you're completely ignorant on what I'm referring to when I say tech. Tech here isn't a 1-1 line but a tech 2-2 line (or possibly 3-3). The TECHs here are obama and froslass. I was stating how neither help against grass decks and the lack of spread by obama does not mean he's useless in the water matchups. Obviously you need to get you're reading glasses renewed, because they're clearly not helping you.
Your attempts to go to insults to cover your poor arguing skills are noted. I would strongly suggest a "your momma" joke if you are serious in your attempt to remotely offend someone, those tend to get reactions out of people.
A 3-3 line is not a tech, you are dillusional to think otherwise, it is a second pokemon line.
Your other point is valid, I misread your post. My apologies.
There were 3? 3-3 lines in 4 corners. Were they all tech lines or secondary/third pokemon lines? Matter of opinion here I suppose, but I would say one of those were a tech line. Dusknoir is the focus here, so a 2-2 line is a tech line. 3-3 can be in extreeme cases, but probably not in here. *removes that part of the sentence*
Well, at least I got an apology out of it. But my joke actually is justified here, because you did not read my post right (and admitted it yourself). It wasn't ment for insult, just as a matter-of-fact.
Well, at least I got an apology out of it. But my joke actually is justified here, because you did not read my post right (and admitted it yourself). It wasn't ment for insult, just as a matter-of-fact.
2-2 is not a tech, its a backup attacker. Froslass and Obama are not techs, they are not used for any specific match ups. Ergo, they will be used in multiple match ups to make up for Noirs short coming.
Incidently, 4 Corners was not a tech deck, it was an anti format deck. It had many types that capitalized on the weaknesses of many decks, not simply aiming at 1-2. Ergo, irrelevant.
I am also entirely unsure of why you removed that part of your argument since it is somewhat valid, but since you did I will ignore it.
A matter of fact?
You have no idea whether or not I use glasses, nor would that matter because I read your post and clearly responded to each issue. Man up and admit it was an insult already, you attempts to justify it are more foolish than the insult itself =/.
prodigal_fanboy
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Yes, my brother is in Senior's Division, and surprisingly enough stomped a Dusknoir player with his bootleg Torterra deck by just cleaning away the spread with the hit-for-sixty/remove-twenty attack to counter the clock.
I didn't watch the match, but I have a feeling this only occurred because the Dusknoir player had a deck worth 3 dollars per every IQ point he possessed.
With Dusknoir, just play a light bench until forced otherwise, and rock the Unown Gs.
Also, stop fighting. On the internet. Over pokemon.
chriscobi634
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2-2 or 3-3 lines are not techs. A 1-1 Mightyena in AMU is a tech. A 2-2 Snowman line in a Dusknoir deck is a side-kick. What does Snowman specifically counter to make it a tech? Nothing. It's a good attacker vs. everything, even Grass and Water decks. It's a side-kick because you could almost base a deck around it, ALMOST. So since it's not good enough to base a deck around it, it's a side-kick. Same goes for Froslass, Bronzong (MT), etc. Just Like Bronzong (SF) isn't a tech when combed with any that needs energy in hand to make a combo work, like Raichu Lv.X, Feraligatr, etc.
A 1-0-1 Dusknoir (D/P) in Plox is a tech. Yamato's 1-0-1 Infernape in Empoleon was a tech.
A 1-0-1 Dusknoir (D/P) in Plox is a tech. Yamato's 1-0-1 Infernape in Empoleon was a tech.
Poke Trainer J
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I'd be more scared of Raichu Lv. X than Dusknoir Lv. X, Raichu only needs 4 Prizes to win instead of 6 while Dusknoir is a "wall of text" just waiting to own in the face...
lolganium
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how can you ever justify a 3-3 line as a tech line? what do you play 120 card decks with 8 of the same card max in your deck or something? 3-3, will never be a tech line ... end of
i played dusknoir, and my opponent just seemed to play around it, which was annoying.
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why does it only need to take 4 prizes?
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lolganium
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this made me lol. im still stumpped as to how he worked this out tho
Nerd can easily draw those 6 prizes though, and even with 2 Voltage Shoots or w/e Chu still has to take 6 prizes, and that’s if Chu can even get off a constant Burst Ball/Voltage Shoot
jameswilliams1324
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Team Galactic's Invention G-103 Power Spray
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This card can be used during your opponent's turn, when your opponent's Pokemon uses a Poke-Power. That Poke-Power's effect is cancelled (the Power still counts as being used).
This card can't be used if you have 2 or fewer SP-Pokemon in play.
This could work?
zerophenx_chaos
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unless its translated to be played ANY time when it is released, it still won't work. So far Glaceon X is the only thing, other than not knocking it out by DOING damage. PLACE damage on it with Azelf X or with another Dusknoir, or by a pokebody or power, or just knock it out while its benched. lots of options
zerophenx_chaos
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the translation says during opponent's turn but we still gotta see the final translation anyways once it actually comes to light our english game.
jameswilliams1324
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Oh ok, so theres still a chance the wording could be changed.
chriscobi634
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The translation would be wrong, as they seem to be errating a lot of cards lately. Bangiras seems to get it right all the time. So go by what it says right now. It's your safest bet.