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GG vs. Plox

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Phazon Elite

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Well, if you scope out this thread, you'll see that people have turned it into an internet respect thread (internet respect is, of course, serious business, and directly translates to great jobs and perfect women forever).

While the original intent of that thread was to discuss "silly name changes to existing decks," people claiming to have exclusive rights to the title of PLOX Creator took an example of a deck which saw name changes to a few card substitutions (GG) and ballooned it into the main topic of discussion. Since the Mods suggested that people stop exclusively talking about GG in there, I decided to make this little thing. I'm bored, and I got quite a few chuckles reading the pro-Plox arguments. That's some good stuff.

Anyway, the initial underlying questions which should be answered (some of which may be reiterated form posts in that thread) are as follows:

Can one claim ownership of a deck based off of two Pokemon which both evolve from the same Basic?
Does switching from a Furrett engine to a Pachi/Phione-Claydol engine constitute an original new deck? If so, please tell me why: I'd like to use that information to make my Beedrill deck into a Splee deck by adding Furrett, thus changing the main attackers and everything the deck believes in. I'll brake the floor mat with it and people will like me.
How does combining four of the most talked-about cards in recent sets (Pachi, Claydol, Gardy, Gallade) into one deck make you any good?
Could I possibly sound any more pretentious?
Finally, how quickly do you think this will turn into a mud fight?

If you care, . . . .

. . . . GO!
 
If changing the starter and adding techs to a deck which has the most obvious combos and techs,then alot of decks should have different names.
 
fragnito said:
If changing the starter and adding techs to a deck which has the most obvious combos and techs,then alot of decks should have different names.
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Exactly.

All they did was change the set up guys and juggle the Supporters around a bit.

Oh, yeah, they took out a Gallade for another Gardevoir. Can't forget that.
 
PLOX, uses a completely different strait, last time I checked GG NEVER used TGW/claydol/psychic lock, as it's main usage. Plox is a more advanced version of GG and if a plox came into a match with a GG it would win way more than it would lose.
 
pikachu* said:
PLOX, uses a completely different strait, last time I checked GG NEVER used TGW/claydol/psychic lock, as it's main usage. Plox is a more advanced version of GG and if a plox came into a match with a GG it would win way more than it would lose.
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That's like saying Texans and Oregonians speak completely different languages because they each have their own little nuances and phrases.
 
SOrry, i don't get what you mean mate. Lol. I don't live in america and i'm not good with Cities/States/Regions whatever, can you please explain what you mean.
 
PLOX is a variation of playstyle and list adjustment for the purpose of primarily Psychic Locking your opponent. The list can vary as much as 15 cards from other "GG" lists. It may not seem like much, but there is a definite difference in experience when playing against a PLOX list.

GG is just as much of a deck name as PLOX is. The deck title is just some arbitrary attachment to the assortment of cards. The legitimacy of a deck being titled as ANYTHING is purely opinion, and no name can therefore be better or worse than any other name. There is no more reason to call the deck based around the ralts line and its evolutions GG than there is for PLOX.

I call my deck PLOX because it looks and feels a certain way, and it was given a name for such a reason. There is no grounds for GG or G&G or anything else being a better name than PLOX, so why not just call it PLOX? At worst PLOX can just be seen as the name for an adjusted GG list fine-tuned for a specific strategy and style.

No one is claiming to be good. If you're referring to Alex, he was justifying his position as a formidable Gardevoir player, winning a states, T2ing another, T4ing a regionals, and winning a city. He's taken home a lot of stuff from this deck and has contributed a lot to its growth and advancement.

This thread is redundant ><
 
The thing is, its a popular deck, a lot of people use it and since there are two it needs two names.

Look at Infernape last year. You had Inferncatty, and then you had Blazeape or sometimes just Infernape. Now those deck where almost EXACTLY the same in every way, even more so than G&G and Plox. Now why didn't everyone get all annoyed about that? :/
 
Why does anyone even give a care about stupid retarded stuff like that?

If I name my Kingdra deck "Atlantis", who are you to say I may not use that name because its just the same as any other Kingdra deck? Likewise, if I call my Ludicolo-Blastoise-Swampert deck LBS, who are you to say I can't because of the older LBS (Stupid example, I know, but best I could do on such short notice).

Its just a name for a pile of cards in a children's game. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it. Sheez.
 
Oh no, not another one of these threads................. -_- -_- -_- ----___---- .................................

^ Psychic lock = Plox
 
Well, they say bad publicity is good publicity.

TEAMRFORLIFE!!!!

Team R, making up whatever they want.

Would anyone like to join the Elite group of Team R? (No Phazon's allowed)

I'd also like to use this thread to remind everyone of how good Florida is. We host worlds and will welcome all of you into our homeland with open arms.
 
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yea might as well go all out here.

team r is better than you and your friends.
FL is amazing at pokemon.
You can't join team r.
etc.

TR4L
 
ryanvergel said:
This thread is redundant ><
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Meh, I decided to make it so the specific GG/PLOX discussion could continue. I'm retentive, yea.

FWIW, I work weekends now, so I don't exactly care about joining a team. Ooh, I'm gunna use my leet team to dominate the Thursday league, woohoo.

By the way, you guys have no perception of sarcasm at all, do you?

Pikachu*: Ahh, sorry. lol. See, people from different parts of the country have different accents, even if they're the same race.

Ho: Uhh, I think you mean bad publicity is often better than no publicity.

Rambo: Stop asking for it, then. Aside from Ryan, everyone in R acts like one of those teenage delinquents you see hanging around the bus station at 1am. As such, it of course follows that very few people will respect your wishes and quit bashing your team's leet deck.
 
Plox and GG both use the same stage 2 pokemon line, BUT there is a COLOSSAL difference in how each deck functions.

GG focuses on Gallade with Gardy as support.
Plox focuses on Gardy with Gallade as support.

Plox is much more complex in strategy and revolves around the abuse of Wager to get the opponents hand down to 3 and Psychic Lock to ensure the chance of comeback is minimal with its power restriction.

GG is a much more offensive deck that relies on Gallade to take out huge threats and finish off the game with Gardy or Gardy Lv. X.

When you have 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND DECKS, a name differentiation is more than suitable.
GG and Plox are completely different decks and strategies, therefore there should be different names.
Calling "Plox" a "GG" variation is an understatement. (and vice versa)
 
I dunno, I see it from both Ryan's and Phazon's point of view. I think more recently however, original GG players are now basing their lists off of Plox's build, to create a deck not quite GG but not unlike Plox. With this most recent set coming out, the line is now blurred and more undefined between the two builds of Gardevoir decks with Phione and Call Energy securing potential places in each deck. I think we can agree that no one's Gardevoir lists remain the same as they did during states, so it wouldn't be unwise to just call them all one certain thing.

JMO
 
Jangrafess said:
I play a Gallade/Gardevoir deck which I like to call BallSacks. This is because I use a tactic known as 'incompetence' and I've replaced one of the Gallades with a Holon's Castform. I also don't own several cards so I use some other trainers. The deck is clearly not the same.

Fear BallSacks.
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I don't even know who you sided with, but you're my hero.

Elm: So, you're telling me that I wouldn't ever use Wager-PLock in GG? You're also telling me that if my opponent sends up an Empoleon against my PLOX, I would obviously NOT try to OHKO it with Gallade but 2-3HKO it with Gardevoir just so I could continue the Power lock, correct?
 
Phazon Elite said:
I don't even know who you sided with, but you're my hero.

Elm: So, you're telling me that I wouldn't ever use Wager-PLock in GG? You're also telling me that if my opponent sends up an Empoleon against my PLOX, I would obviously NOT try to OHKO it with Gallade but 2-3HKO it with Gardevoir just so I could continue the Power lock, correct?
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Of course that's not what I'm telling you.
Wager Psy Lock is PLOX's MAIN strategy. It uses Gallade when needed, but not nearly as frequently as GG.
GG uses Gallade as its MAIN strategy. It uses Psychic Lock and Wager when needed, but not nearly as frequently as PLOX.

Not to mention, both decks set up in different ways.

I don't know how you can argue that the strategies are the same in each deck. Plox and GG function very differently.
I wont say they don't have versatility, but they are 2 distinct, different decks.
 
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