Kenshin's Garde
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they should just reprint Here Comes Team Rocket. =/
Official Ban Gardevoir for Worlds 2008 Discussion
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ChaosKnuckles
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lol I just thought of something. If PUSA decides to make those World Champ Decks again(please do PUSA) we'll have 4 different PLOXes on the shelf or we'll end up getting all the Eeveelutions, Empoleon, and Blissey/Banettes that couldn't make the top 2. Rofl that would be very funny. They're not going to ban GG or PLOX. If they did ban it we would have complaints of the people who play it. Lol if you don't PLOX to be at Worlds then ask everyone participating to not play it(though thats not going to work). Oh and you're making 2 cards people spent time and money on worthless, and is that fair? (I have never played PLOX except in testing against other decks)
pinkertonfan
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lol but there might be different techs in some of them.
Kenshin's Garde
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exactly. it would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lame. THey'd probably just reprint Rambolt or something.
Oh c'mon. the cards for GG aren't expensive at all. and this is a game. you say that people will be sad that they spent money to buy these broken cards. well, what happens every season? your amazing cards from x-set get rotated out. you need to buy new cards to make up for it. that's the whole point of this game for the company: to make some cash. Everyone is saying gg will die next season anyways, so why not just bring that date up a little bit closer?
at the very least, games should last 5 or 10 minutes longer.
garchompx12
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excellent article. hopefully POP even acknowledges players' desperation of GG getting limited/banned. they banned a wormadam to help the cup, why not ban/restrict GG to help the outcome of WORLDS??
ChaosKnuckles
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What if they did a turn limit(like 2-3 min a turn?). What do you think of that?
It's Tom Jones!
It's not unusual if the format is too lame,
It's not unusual for all decks to be the same.
But when your opponent stalls you out in a game,
it's not unusual to see you cry.
Oh you wanna' die.
It's not unusual to cry your heart away,
on the Pokegym just posting every day.
If your threads should ever not go your way,
it's not unusual to throw out all these names,
and make up all these claims,
you find it happens all the time.
PUI will never do,
what you want them to,
but you act like it's a crime.
It's not unusual to be mad with anyone,
it's not unusual to throw words at anyone.
But if you ever give up and are simply done,
it's not unusual to come right back to the game
whoa-oh-oh-oh
It's not unusual if the format is too lame,
It's not unusual for all decks to be the same.
But when your opponent stalls you out in a game,
it's not unusual to see you cry.
Oh you wanna' die.
It's not unusual to cry your heart away,
on the Pokegym just posting every day.
If your threads should ever not go your way,
it's not unusual to throw out all these names,
and make up all these claims,
you find it happens all the time.
PUI will never do,
what you want them to,
but you act like it's a crime.
It's not unusual to be mad with anyone,
it's not unusual to throw words at anyone.
But if you ever give up and are simply done,
it's not unusual to come right back to the game
whoa-oh-oh-oh
BigChuck01
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Agreed with Chad, but disagree that Gardy is the problem. Gardy only seems like the problem because its the main attacker in the mirror, and the mirror is so common that people start to base things off that (a card cant be broken cause it does well against itself lol). Psylock isnt really that big a deal against things like Empoleon, Eevees, Toreterra, etc. The big problem is the big idiot dumb stupid moron Gallade. Cards WAAAAAAY too good. Psychic cut is the only attack I've ever considered BROKEN in my life (maybe eeeeeeek or mean look actually), and I've been playin this game for TEN years. Pokemon is a game of building threats, and responding to threats. Gallade has an automatic knockout on the first 2 threats, for just 2 energy. It's extrmeley hard to build a 3rd one to contend with gallade, and when you do, The Wager/Psylocks come out. You manage to finally take out the Gardys? Dusknoirs there to seal the deal.
The whole decks is broken. Another big aspect in pokemon is Synergy. It just so happens that the 5 of the best cards in the game all work together perfectly in the same deck. Very lame!
The whole decks is broken. Another big aspect in pokemon is Synergy. It just so happens that the 5 of the best cards in the game all work together perfectly in the same deck. Very lame!
TheDarkTwins
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I would have to agree with this idea of banning it for Worlds. The card is overly powerful. The fact that it and Gallade both evovle from Kirlia. I decided to stop play GG after the first weekend of states. Since I have done that, I have been having a lot more fun. I just can't argue with the fact that the cards is overly powerful. I played Empoleon/Bronzong at Nationals for this very reason. It is a lot more enjoyable to play Empoleon then it would of been to play GG.
As for you comment about the above. I will say the following.
04 - Blaziken was the BDIF, however it wasn't really able to "shut" things down. It didnt win Nationals or Worlds, and the fact was it was able to be countered against.
05 - Rock-Lock was arguably the BDIF. While there were many choice for most of the year. There were some T2 decks that countered most of the format. I guess you could say that 05 T2 decks were the BDIFs. I just feel that Rock-Lock wasn't winning everything. The problem with Rock-Lock was ATM Rock was a bit too powerful not the fact that Rock-Lock was amazing.
06 - I will say the LBS was a really good deck. It could be argued as the BDIF. I think this was the most enjoyable year I have had for pokemon. There were over 20 decks that you could take to a tourney and win with. I played in at both Nats and Worlds (I was stalled out in T32 or else I had gimmes to T4).
07 - R-Gon and Metanite were the BDIF. I think you would find it hard to agure otherwise. They both were very strong the whole year. However the each had there specific weakness and could be beat.
08- GG is just way too good. It has won I would have to guess over 60% of the events that deck was able to be played in. I just find it hard to beleive that it doesn't fall under the same category as Sneasel and Slowking. I mean those cards were broken. Gardevoir is really close to being the same IMO.
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Might be easier if everyone just agrees not to play Gardevoir. Don't expect POP to do anything.
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This is one of the most dynamic threads to be posted recently. The PokeGym is the place for a topic like this to be discussed. This is a reminder to all who are passionate and care about this topic, please refrain from any personal attacks or name calling. Not pointing anyone out, let's keep it civil....
On Topic:
Gardevoir unfortunately will probably not be banned before Worlds 2008. At US Nats, that deck was everywhere - like a swarm of insects. For those of you fortunate and skilled enough to be playing in Worlds 2008, good luck. Just remember, there are a few cards out there that stop Psychic Lock....
Teching in one card may save your day. cough cough DiSableye or Holon Circle cough cough.....
Enjoy!
On Topic:
Gardevoir unfortunately will probably not be banned before Worlds 2008. At US Nats, that deck was everywhere - like a swarm of insects. For those of you fortunate and skilled enough to be playing in Worlds 2008, good luck. Just remember, there are a few cards out there that stop Psychic Lock....
Teching in one card may save your day. cough cough DiSableye or Holon Circle cough cough.....
Enjoy!
shiftrymaster68
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I wish that there was a reliable way to get out of Psychic Lock, but Crystal Guardians Sableye is easily countered with Warp Point, Levelling Up to Gardevoir Lv.X, and/or Gardevoir Lv.X's Teleportation. Holon Circle prevents its user from attacking, and Gardevoir can easily go through 10-12 cards every turn to find its Windstorm/Counter Stadiums to get rid of it. There's no reliable way to stop Gardevoir from attacking other than to kill it, but the deck sets up multiple threats easily.
Flygon999
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Oh I'm sure Gardelade will find a way to have energy acceleration without DRE.
Agreed, Ban Gardevoir SW forEVER, not just worlds.
mca3
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Dude, you are halarious! Your right too!:thumb:
Professor Elm
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I honestly wouldn't mind the ban of Gardy, but it won't happen.
metalbird
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For everyone who thinks it is unrealistic for them to bann cards before Worlds, does anyone remember the good old Feraligator back in the day of WotC. Ya i know different company ownes Pokemon and it's under different managment, BUT they banned Feraligator right before Worlds 2001, even though they allowed it to be played in the Grinder. So this suggests it is not totally out the question for the card to be banned for Worlds. Also this card becomes even more annoying when players who happen to play slow not due to stalling, but becasue that is their natural pace of play you could cry because you know you'll be lucky to get 10 turns and then they bring up Galladar Psychich Cut GG. I do think the card is broken beyond beleif when played together, but I really don't know if they will, because while Nintendo has controled Pokemon they have yet to ever bann a single card during tournaments other than the Professor Cup. (the card was a rare in the set though..) Just my opinion and just reminding others it has been done before but i'm really doubting it will happen now.
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