King Piplup
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Totally agreed. Anywhere but Hawaii. (Oh, and Alaska :biggrin
Honestly, because of where PUSA/TCPi are located, I don't see it leaving North America. Canada would work though.
A New Location for Worlds 2013?
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Totally agreed. Anywhere but Hawaii. (Oh, and Alaska :biggrin
Lucario-Master
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^Why should the location stop them from having it wherever they want? Other TCGs have lots of major events internationally. We are only asking for worlds.
nnaann
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I agree with this, although Europe get the most invites, it just seems less since not everyone can afford Worlds. I think that between the US and Europe, that's about 75% of the invites taken up so it makes sense to keep it between these locations. Japan would be nice and I think they'd have a high attendance for the Grinder, but they don't seem to be awarded many invites to justify it.
SadCinccino
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If they are so worryed about sight seeing and stuff, well seeing hawaii every other year isn't helping, they need to put it somewhere thqat represents the US as a whole, that shows our county as people expect it to be, put it in Niagia Fall, NY....or somewhere wherre people will enjoy there stay and possibly spend time with family, and idc if they make it internatinally, I would like to go to London or something of that nature, and yea who don't have a hardtime getting $1500+ going to hawaii? But we somehow come up with it right? So what makes you think the people that pay for hawaii won't go tob London? Plus people that actually try throught the season get paid invites. So if you simply just can't get the money just do better at nats this year.
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Victory Bell
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Going to Europe would open a new can of worms I think. Getting every underage US player a passport would be a hassle. Any underage player traveling by him/her self would be subject to different laws. As would be shipping EVERYTHING of pokemon's over the US and then again over the Atlantic. I don't see Europe or Japan happening to be honest. Not that I wouldn't want to go, I would, I just don't see it happening.
No offence but what foreigner would come to Seattle. Or Boston. Or any random Mid-West city. Worlds /MUST/ be set in a vacation destination, or at least that has always been the standard. New York even seems a little far-fetched.
No offence but what foreigner would come to Seattle. Or Boston. Or any random Mid-West city. Worlds /MUST/ be set in a vacation destination, or at least that has always been the standard. New York even seems a little far-fetched.
How about the foreign Jr and Sr. players from around the world that have to get passports to come to the US? Why is it everything people think about is "awww the poor US players." We're possibly the most spoiled players in this game for christs sake.
Victory Bell
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But. What problem is that. They already have them. The "damage" per se, is already done.
We may be the most spoiled, but we also give them the most money. Just saying.
Also the "This city is cheaper, but slightly less fabulous, lets go here!" argument is invalid to all using it. Pokemon has already proven they don't care about how much money their costumers spend for worlds when they decided to go to Hawaii 3 times.
We may be the most spoiled, but we also give them the most money. Just saying.
Also the "This city is cheaper, but slightly less fabulous, lets go here!" argument is invalid to all using it. Pokemon has already proven they don't care about how much money their costumers spend for worlds when they decided to go to Hawaii 3 times.
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Lucario-Master
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That is such a bad way of looking at it. Every year new players will need passports, there is no stop to it, and its not damage, having a passport is a good thing and if your not gonna go to worlds because you don't want to get a passport then you don't care about it enough. Americans get so much handed to them and we are just asking for a big of fairness. We don't want to take worlds away from you every year but have something like every second year its in another country.
King Piplup
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As far why international Worlds is a problem for PUSA/TCPi, Victory Bell puts nicely.
nnaann
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The passport situation isn't really a problem I don't think. For me, I'd much rather have a Worlds elsewhere for the people who cannot afford to go (and don't hold a passport), than those who do. Right now it's the same people that get invites every year and can't afford to go that are the main reason that Worlds needs to move around more imo. I'm not sure about the US, but a passport here is valid for 10 years, so it can also be a great incentive to travel abroad.
The only problem I can see for underage players travelling by themselves, is if Worlds is held in a country where English isn't the main language. Aside from that, there isn't much difference from travelling within the US, and most airlines have schemes where children can be looked after (I have experience of underage Americans travelling this way).
The shipping side is a good point, but then I don't think this is too big a deal since POP love Hawaii. Europe also receive the most paid invites, so POP should become able to save a lot of money from cheaper travel awards which should balance out the costs.
I was about to post that about Seattle before you did. With no disrespect to anyone who lives there, but nobody from outside the US wants to spend thousands of dollars on a holiday to Seattle, when Worlds has been previously held in places like California and Florida. Imagine you all paying the expense of Hawaii, to have your holiday in a random foreign city.
Just my thoughts on it all, I know that POP read these boards so I wanted to get the European point of view across :wink:.
meganium45
Active Member
Cities I would love to see:
Cancun, Mexico
Anaheim, California
Orlando, Florida
Washington, DC
Somewhere on the Mediterranean
Sydney, Australia
St. Louis, MO (NO NO NO, JUST KIDDING, PLEASE NO)
Japan (Any city with a Pokemon Center)
But those are my choices...not gonna happen.
Vince
Cancun, Mexico
Anaheim, California
Orlando, Florida
Washington, DC
Somewhere on the Mediterranean
Sydney, Australia
St. Louis, MO (NO NO NO, JUST KIDDING, PLEASE NO)
Japan (Any city with a Pokemon Center)
But those are my choices...not gonna happen.
Vince
Victory Bell
Member
Hence the quotes and "per se" -_- It costs money, and takes time to get. If there is a record problem or something it takes even longer. Europeans typically already have them if they have been to worlds. (I need to stop talking about passports, I'm not 100% factually sure about some stuff) Anyway, it's not a huge issue, but it is a legitimate one.
ALSO. When did I say I wouldn't like to see worlds in another country. I just said it's just not going to happen. Do I think it's "fair" that worlds is in Hawaii and everyone has to sell their Grandmothers just to go? Not really. It's pretty lame actually. But Pokemon is a corporation. They don't have to be fair. They shouldn't be expected to go out of their way, (e.g. out of the US) to host a free tournament/grinder. (...but seriously, why spend that extra cash going to Hawaii when Florida is just as good, c'mon really)
I'd really like to see a Cali/Florida split. It's "fair-er" to the Europeans and East coasters. And Cali is "fair-er" to the Japanese and West Coasters. GG Hawaii.
Did not know that. Thanks. Yeah, I don't think worlds will ever be held in a non english speaking country. If it is then I'd eat my hat. (I do have a nice hat)
Ryuzaki_Lawliet
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Magic the Gathering had worlds in ROME in 2009.
Chiba (Japan) in 2010.
and SAN FRANCISCO this year.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS CRITERION BEING USED IN POKÉMON TOO?
I can't really understand...
Chiba (Japan) in 2010.
and SAN FRANCISCO this year.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS CRITERION BEING USED IN POKÉMON TOO?
I can't really understand...
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Pokemon is by far the biggest and most supported in the U.S. Magic is much, much different.
Are you saying you would like to see San Francisco replace San Diego in the Hawaii - California rotation?
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PokeTwoHoursFromSanFrancicoDad
SaiaSandstorm
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Seattle would be easy since PCi itself is located 10 minutes away, just sayin'
THE AWESOME ONE
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I doubt that Worlds will ever move to the east coast again because its to expensive for the japanese players
It would be fair for the other people, like it's expensive as it is in hawaii and it doesn't fit anyones budget, hell I gotta save over 8 grand to take my fam.