Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

WEREWOLF XV: Pokemon Wars: GAME END: TOWN WINS!!!!! See Post 2547 for Final Update!

1540.

I’m going to die the same way Akane did…
Ugh I had a huge post typed up in the Reply Box then lost it by accidentally changing pages…here is post v2.0 anyways.

I was definitely the man in the barracks. I honestly am a little confused about that: the way I understand my role, I should have been in the Control Room last night, but I definitely wasn’t because I’m still alive. I guess I was either fortunate that my role didn’t put me in the control room like I thought it would or (unlikely I think) some other role stopped mine.

Vote JellyFisher: I have been making lists of the people who voted for the person who was lynched every day. We have been seeing a lot of townies get lynched, so I figured I could find some voting patterns and eventually would find wolves from that. Jellyfisher voted for the person who was ultimately lynched ALL FIVE TIMES. On days 2,4, and 5 he was one of the first three people to get on that vote-wagon. TODAY he has also done that. On days 1 and 3, he joined the vote about half way through. This seems to me like jellyfisher is getting on vote-wagons at the right time to get the votes rolling off in the direction of a non-wolf. This could also make sense if he is a sith and not a wolf.

These people are showing up a lot on the list of people who vote for the person who was lynched every day: Toxictaipan (4/5), pokechamp(4/5) I would not mind seeing one of them lynched today when it comes down to it. I’ll have more complete theories once I update my list of known roles and apply it to my vote pattern analysis.

About redados1: I think he is telling the truth about the modkill if he reveals too much. So he probably has a role preventing him from talking about his. Does he also have a role forcing his vote? Is he being targeted by 2 separate negative roles? I think it may be more likely that it is really the same role affecting his vote and his role. If he isn’t allowed to talk about his role in any way, shape, or form then he also couldn’t say that we needed to vote for someone because of what his role found out. So we know he is a seer of sorts. Perhaps he has evidence to convict someone, but can’t say it because of the restriction of talking about his role? In that case it may be worth looking into Napoleon some more. As for the legality of using his speech impediment against him, I feel that it is perfectly within the spirit of the game. I don’t, however, see the advantage of doing it right now.

Finally, I don't believe the theories that the Sith marks are a mark of death. I believe the two people who died with them died because the ship collapsed. I think they just happened to have the mark and be in the wrong rooms at the wrong time.

Dragonclyne: thank you for the abridged version of the update. It’s much easier to reference than the original.

Jpulice: What reasons do you have for suspecting toxictaipan of being a townie?
 
I'd still like to hear from Cardzmaster2004 and Benson.

Since cardz has not answered several calls for explanation, voting to make him respond, will un-vote once he posts.

VOTE: Cardzmaster2004

Also, @gallade, It's more likely that the remaining indies (if any) are less anti-town than the sith.
 
I think Nepoleon is Giovonie, Thunderjolt is Mewtwo, and your stuck with these two holding you like a puppet.
Nepoleon stated that time will tell, I think I have seen what the time told. His own words from past postings being aggressive, soft hint's of manipulation, and a few other light traces of possible leads- Nepoleon has Thunderjolt to do his "dirty work"- to get what, Pokemon with the ability to have the force for his own reasons of having the "best of the best". Am I making sense to you?
Giovonie will even take on the Sith to get what he wants. The wolves- another "road block" in his quest.
If this is just some story I am making up, I over analyzed all of this, and I am failing at getting rid of threats.
Did you get help from Giovonie, er, Napoleon?
To me, Napoleon is an indy, but not in the best interest with the town in mind.
Vote: Thunderjolt I call your bluff if it is so. Pretty bold to think that you can just walk out and be all "safe" and in the clear- did you think of that or did your master help?
Napoleon- if I could make two votes, I would- but I will keep your lynch vote for now for the reason I think it might weaken you with your servant gone- considering my thoughts are correct.
Like I have said, these are just my thoughts- but we got to draw some kind of conclusions if we are to be safe from all threats, and take into consideration of possibilities. I think an example of what I mean is- look at the com-link, has it mysteriously disappeared because of what I said about the com-link, and the person who uses it does not want a "paper trail" to lead us to his/her guilt?

WRONG.

@cabd, Exactly what do you want me to say? I've seen everything from "flip everything you did" to "derpity derp are you town?" so I've honestly got no idea what you want to me tell you.
 
Napoleon, you've just been kind of back and forth with how much info you give out. Right now, i'd just like to hear from you regarding your role usage. The other night you claimed to have been partially responsible for a kill. Do you still posses any pokeballs?

To be honest, my suspicions rest on Benson right now. But I want to hear from cardz first.

Also, something I just noticed, could be coincidence, but within 8 minutes of me voting for jpluce, he magically managed to come online and respond to remove the votes against him.
 
Napoleon, you've just been kind of back and forth with how much info you give out. Right now, i'd just like to hear from you regarding your role usage. The other night you claimed to have been partially responsible for a kill. Do you still posses any pokeballs?

To be honest, my suspicions rest on Benson right now. But I want to hear from cardz first.

Also, something I just noticed, could be coincidence, but within 8 minutes of me voting for jpluce, he magically managed to come online and respond to remove the votes against him.

It's exams period here, though I still read the thread, I admit I'm fence sitting but it's only because all the conversation happens when I'm asleep or at school. I'll be posting more frequently after this week.
 
There's some really good info here. I'm going to keep going through it a bit more, and will probably post again within the next few days. Exams are looking scarily over my shoulder but I've got a light weekend coming up so I'm going to do a lot there.

Just two quickish comments.

1540.
I have been making lists of the people who voted for the person who was lynched every day. We have been seeing a lot of townies get lynched, so I figured I could find some voting patterns and eventually would find wolves from that. Jellyfisher voted for the person who was ultimately lynched ALL FIVE TIMES. On days 2,4, and 5 he was one of the first three people to get on that vote-wagon. TODAY he has also done that. On days 1 and 3, he joined the vote about half way through. This seems to me like jellyfisher is getting on vote-wagons at the right time to get the votes rolling off in the direction of a non-wolf. This could also make sense if he is a sith and not a wolf.

These people are showing up a lot on the list of people who vote for the person who was lynched every day: Toxictaipan (4/5), pokechamp(4/5) I would not mind seeing one of them lynched today when it comes down to it. I’ll have more complete theories once I update my list of known roles and apply it to my vote pattern analysis.


Honestly it's a decent idea. Except I don't think we're far enough in the game to work this strategy. Really all this shows is Jellyfisher, Toxic and Pokechamp are those that are happy to put a vote out there for discussion. You might have noticed but generally the town hasn't had many rapid swings of, Oh look, maybe this person isn't a good idea, let's lynch someone else. Maybe if it was a day or two later and the trend had continued, but on its own I don't think the evidence is valid.


Benzo's Deoxys/Mewtwo idea is a little far fetched. I want to go over some stuff again from a previous update, but I'm pretty sure that thunderjolt is Deoxys. While Mewtwo does have a link to DNA, it's not really as big as Deoxys. It's entirely possible that these roles are all in the game, just I doubt that they're Thunderjolt and Napoleon.
 
I'd like to add quickly that Jolteon existing in the game is a pretty safe assumption, given that we had baby mario mention (in the role card revealed upon death) that he was the younger eevee. This means there's another eevee, now a jolteon, I guess.

Going by Scottistru's logic-color-post; the person who is Jolteon is the person who targeted Sandslash. S/, do you have any idea who might have targeted you or why?
 
After canning back over old posts, I see a lot of people are asking about the tattoos (and some people were specifically calling me out on it).

All I can say is that I did not receive any information about it at all. All I know is that I have a tattoo. I have absolutely no idea what impact on the game it has/ may possibly have if any.

As for the roles like Kezzup's and DP's where they do not know their alignment. I would not at all be surprised if absoltrainer gave them all different alignments. Like 1 indie (DP), 1 town, 1 empire, 1 sith.

<Sarcasm> I'm sure its toooootally harmless. Its DEFINITELY not going to kill me </sarcasm>
 
@Redado's- sorry for the misspelling of your sn-
I think Nepoleon is Giovonie, Thunderjolt is Mewtwo, and your stuck with these two holding you like a puppet.

Think what you will of Thunderjolt, but I am 99% sure Napoleon is town.
 
I am worried about the tattoos being the mark of death, since last night it did occur that both of the rooms that the two people marked on Night 3 were in, ended up exploded. Whether this be a legit coincidence or because of the markings, is something we have to decide. If we decide it is a coincidence, then we have to know that it is still likely two rooms will explode tonight (or the next, since it could have a cooldown), killing all inside of them, leaving us to a random lottery of who would die and who wouldn't. If it isn't a coincidence,; avoid AAM at night?

Also, I'm thinking this is worth mentioning to further the town's ability to figure roles based on the rooms-
I was the man in the engine room.
 
@ Those calling me out for being silent: Did anyone ever think to remember I've been silenced for the past few game days? Because, BTW, I have been. Today is the first day in a while I can post but, between my teaching schedule, other commitments both digital and IRL, and generally needing sleep, I haven't been able to post yet. I have a feeling once I do post, it won't be what you all are hoping for as I've been pretty useless this game. I will end by saying I am town-aligned, per Napoleon's two-day-old analysis and you needn't vote for me. Expect a more detailed post tonight so I can compose something of SOME use to the town that isn't a blathering statement.

~Cardz out.
 
Last read-Cardz Post-which I have no time to comment on
OK, error by me in typing my last statement, I was one of the two in the engine room.
 
A few things before a jump into my analysis.
First, I repeat, the Redados suggestion was not suggesting that we should lynch him, only that getting the information would be a benifit if we decide he is scum.
@benzo:Based on the update, Napolean is a roserade trainer, which doesn't sound like Geovanni to me.

One to the analysis.
I've quoted each of the nights, and I will post my thoughts on alignment and role below each night.
Night 1
Affliction: Beaten and Tied
People Inficted: Napolean/Jason
Possible Roles: Salamence Trainer/Crazy Scientist
Possible causes: 2 men/Armored pack

Affliction: Bruised
People Inficted:Gallade/E4A(Me)
Possible Roles:Group/Sneaking Man(confirm by me)
Possible causes:Rod person/Wookie
From this night we unearth quite a few roles. First, we learn that Napolean is the roserade trainer. If I had to guess at his alignment, I would say town, but possibly 3rd party, due to the fact he was fighting Diaz. Second, we learn that gallade is in some sort of group. I would guess a special force's town aligned gallade, but this is mostly my gut, which has no experiance in this game.

Night 2
Affliction:Bruised
People Inficted:Z-man
Possible Roles:Murkrow
Possible causes:???

Affliction:Burned
People Inficted:Gallade
Possible Roles:Group
Possible causes:Blow Torch
This night wasn't too productive. We confirm that gallade is in a group, and learn of a torcher, but thats it.

Night 3
Affliction:Bruised
People Inficted: Barkjon/Pokemonfreak
Possible Roles: Ralts/Man
Possible causes: ???/Gyrados

Affliction:Burned
People Inficted: Pokechamp
Possible Roles: ???
Possible causes: Blow Torch
So, we learn that pokechampofpokebeach is... a man. Which is only helpful if your the dead hunter J.
Yay for helpfulness!!!
Night 4
Affliction: Burned
People Inficted: Jellyfisher/thunderjolt
Possible Roles:???
Possible causes: Pikachu
So we learn that there is a pikachu. It may be a sibling to a pichu, which has been seen in some of AT's past games.
Night 5
Affliction: Burned
People Inficted: Sandslash
Possible Roles: Thinker
Possible causes:4 legged electric pokemon
Scott
So on our most recent night, we learn SS7 is some sort of thinker with a cloak. We also learn of what seems to be a jolteon, and Baby Mario's older brother.

Wow, that breakdown seemed alot more productive in my head. I'm just glad I posted my findings, seeing as my computer just broke down, and I may lose the file. Thoughts on the players after an ISO.
 
VOTE TALLEY
Players Remaining: 22
Votes needed to lynch: 12

Napoleon: 1 Redados1
Sandslash7: 1 jpulice
Redados1: 1 LegendCallerL
thunderjolt: 1 Benzo
Jellyfisher: 1 Arcanie/Arbok Master
Cardzmaster2004: 1 Cabd
 
If anyone makes a statement that states that someone is potentially town, they need to include a good reasoning as to why that is. Honestly Benson, I am not so sure Napoleon needs your endorsement. It's no secret you haven't contributed much to the game at all in terms of discussion and once again this holds true. A lone statement without any facts behind it is as likely to be true as someone telling us that the moon is clearly orange. As you (should) know, that simply isn't true.

And the same goes for the point of AA/M. If you're going to call suspicion on someone, then I think it needs to be for a much better reason than votes that contributed to a lynch. Jellyfisher, as far as I'm concerned, has played a great game so far and he is an active contributor to the discussion. I think the same could also be said about myself or Toxictaipan.

As far who to vote for, I honestly I'm not sure yet. It seems that when someone makes a great point against someone, they come back with an excellent counterpoint and defile whatever evidence was previously thought to be against them. At the same time, there aren't many people that appear to be massively suspicious. I think the best course of action right now is wait until we are certain of who we want to lynch.
 
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Thank you, Cardz, I await your post tonight.

UNVOTE: Cardzmaster2004
VOTE: Benson

I'd REALLY like to hear why you jumped so quickly to protect Napoleon, Benson. It's kinda scummy to me. I mean, looks like, from an outside perspective, that you're trying to defend a team-mate.
 
I think this should prove that Napoleon is not Giovanni.

“GO ROSARADE!” The man turned to see a woman with a Rosarade by her side.

Now for AAM's post...

1540.Vote JellyFisher: I have been making lists of the people who voted for the person who was lynched every day. We have been seeing a lot of townies get lynched, so I figured I could find some voting patterns and eventually would find wolves from that. Jellyfisher voted for the person who was ultimately lynched ALL FIVE TIMES. On days 2,4, and 5 he was one of the first three people to get on that vote-wagon. TODAY he has also done that. On days 1 and 3, he joined the vote about half way through. This seems to me like jellyfisher is getting on vote-wagons at the right time to get the votes rolling off in the direction of a non-wolf. This could also make sense if he is a sith and not a wolf.

First off, I would like to point that I DID NOT, participate in the lynch all five times. The first day, I was 2nd person to vote for E4A, and I did not remove my vote for the entire day. And that day Porii Sames was lynched. I would also like to point out that I did not join the vote about half way through.

And what about Dragonite15? I think everyone thought he really was a wolf. So can you really blame me for voting him?

And besides that, I don't think your logic for voting me is good enough. Its not like I haven't given a good reason for each of my votes. Maybe if I had just repeated what everyone else said, or not said anything at all, then that would have given you a reason for voting me. But I didn't.

I'm not even going to bother looking at each vote and checking to see if you statements are correct. The reasoning for your vote just isn't enough to make me want to do that.So until (and if) you can find something better to base your vote on, that is all I'm going to post.
 
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