Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

WEREWOLF XV: Pokemon Wars: GAME END: TOWN WINS!!!!! See Post 2547 for Final Update!

It would seem that the gallade in question (not me) has a change of roles, as that is what I read when I see the phrase 'remember'. Assuming that it is a wolf is a bit hasty, but not without reasoning.
 
It would seem that the gallade in question (not me) has a change of roles, as that is what I read when I see the phrase 'remember'. Assuming that it is a wolf is a bit hasty, but not without reasoning.

I don't think that the Gallade is a wolf. The Gallade was in a group with two other players. There was a town aligned Ralts, and a Gardevoir that was with the empire. I think that it would be very odd to see two wolves in a group like that. In the last game, there was a group very much like the Ralts evolution group we had in this game. There was one townie, a wolf and one Team Black Hole member. And it appears that Team Black Hole is similar to the Sith group we have in this game. So I think its very possible that Gallade is now part of that group.
 
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@Nepoleon: I did say that what I posted is a story, but not in a strait forward manner. I tested a theory is all. I wanted too see if you might be alligned. I think your indie. An indy in favor of the town. I am not ignorant to what your roll is- just seeing if you do have an aliance to clear that person if any. I do not think that you do have an aliance now. GBA or CBA tactic, if that makes sence to you.

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1570--
Interesting that you say that. You can not defend the DNA factor, thus, I still hold my vote for you.
What is too say that your "role switching"suggestoin is not related to you? DNA is specific to human genes, but not directly something that Pokemon are "bound" by.
Take for example the attack transform. DNA (and some Psychic) Pokemon have that attack or have the ability to change their form or abilities to alter their DNA too fits thier needs in a situation that benifits them.
You could be a Ditto, a Mewtwo, Deoxys, Mew- any Pokemon at will. Even your claim too being a Deoxy's- you can change form. You even post a different "ctc atc tta" ect...... does this mean that you are like changing what you are able to do, like maybe taking on different roles? Or is it a defence mechanism to hide?
I think it is a way for you too hide, and either it is for Sith or wolf reasons.
There is untruth in what you say, I do not think that you can be trusted until you can give something other then "I am Deoxys"- which in any DNA possabilities, I think it is a way to hide. Regardless if your really are Deoxys- I do not think that you have the towns best interest in mind. Just my thoughts--
I will change my vote against you if evidence is brought to the table on a good wolf lead.

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I think that SS7 has a good point in that the Sith are not recruiting, but trying to get people to side with them. This could be done in many ways, side with us or die, here is an offer you cant refuse, blah blah blah-- But if this really is the case,iIf a player can not "remember" a role, they could be offered to side with the Sith-- and remember- so, can we link the last person who died that could not "remember" to the Sith on their side? What if the Sith target a player that has no role who also can not remember who theyare, that is when that player is decided if they are Sith or not? And by that players choice? Something must activate the connection. My thoughts on that is/was the com-link.

The Spiritomb found a shiny object. Interesting. I will put some thought into this, and hopefully make a connection that might lead to something that will benifit the town or be a threat. One quick thought on it is the com-link was dropped, Spiritomb found it- that might explain why the com-link is "nowhere" to be found, as the person whom had it "lost it" or ditched it puposefully. If Cynthia is in the game, and this connection is possible-- then Cynthia now has the com-link? If so, and Cynthia has it, could the use of the com-link be for the better if Cynthia is townie?
 
I don't think that the Gallade is a wolf. The Gallade was in a group with two other players. There was a town aligned Ralts, and a Gardevoir that was with the empire. I think that it would be very odd to see two wolves in a group like that. In the last game, there was a group very much like the Ralts evolution group we had in this game. There was one townie, a wolf and one Team Black Hole member. And it appears that Team Black Hole is similar to the Sith group we have in this game. So I think its very possible that Gallade is now part of that group.
That is why being a vet actually does give you an advantage, thanks for bringing that up.
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That is why being a vet actually does give you an advantage, thanks for bringing that up.
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Arguably, it's also possible that we have one townie, one town-aligned or survival indie (like porii was) and one wolf in the trio.
 
Great, We're doomed.

@ Cards Post (1569)
Well, I can't provide proof that the tattoo isn't dangerous. I already admitted everything I know about it: nothing. I did not receive ANY notification about it at all. All I know is what everyone else knows. I like to believe it is harmless. I am fairly certain I know why the other two people who had it died and that is unrelated. I can not truthfully say that I KNOW that I wont be turned to Cyrus's team. I do however, find it unlikely that I will. I tend to believe that AT would not include such a powerful role. Surely if Cyrus had already marked three people, would be able to convert them shortly, and could continue doing so at the same rate for the rest of the game, his role would be too powerful. That can't be the case. I do believe that (especially with Cyrus himself dead), that the tattoo will not change my alignment. As I already said though, this is mostly speculation, intuition, and my compilated thoughts on AT's game design. Nothing is concrete.
Also, the Demi-priest is Dave, right? The barrier dropped because he died when the room collapsed?

@ThunderJolt(1570)
I think Dragonite15 was being sarcastic/ giving up. He described to the town his role and everyone accused him of making it up. Then he "confessed", died, and his role turns out to be pretty much what he was trying to describe. I think his "confession" was him just giving up, not a role-switch.

@cabd(1579):
You seem to lack a basic understanding of what is happening. King Piplup did not "raise any points" against me. He merely wants me to explain why I had him on my suspect list. I may or may not actually explain that today. I feel that we have bigger things on the rise.
Also, Cardz is ONLY calling me out for the tattoo I got. My alignment is all but confirmed. For more on what I have to say about the tattoo, read my first paragraph this post.

@Jellyfisher(1582):
Yes, it would be unlikely that AT would make that mason group with 2 wolves in it. I find it EXTREMELY probably that they would all 3 have different alignments. That happened the last game AT hosted (There was a mason group of three brothers. One of them was Wolf, one Team BlackHole, and the last was townie) . So yes, it is unlikely the Gallade is a wolf, but I find is fairly probable that Gallade is a Sith or Indie(less likely)

Final notes: Sorry for late post, was on a day trip today. Obviously, the tattoos have not stopped despite Cyrus's death. This means that the tattoos are HIGHLY unlikely to convert someone. That would be completely overpowered. I really, REALLY do not know what to think about Cardz right now. When I read his post on my phone on the road I thought this:

1. The tattoos do not seem dangerous. They are continuing despite Cyrus dying, and did not do anything so far that we can see. (They did not affect the roles of the two that died with them)
2. Cardz suddenly hasa vendetta against my tattoo and me despite the fact that I am not the only one to have one (Pokechampofpokebeach).
3. Motivation for going after me despite the tattoos not seeming dangerous (at least so far?)
3a. Cardz is a wolf. The day has shown a very split vote so far, and Cardz has decided to swing that vote to a prominent townie (me). Then when I die and my role gets revealed as town, no one is upset. Cardz whole logic is that the TATTOO is dangerous and not me, so when I die everyone already expected that I was town. Cardz does not receive any fallout or pressure because his argument centers on the tattoo. This way he can vote off a decent townie (good for the wolves) and receives no negative return-fire from players for lynching me.

3b. Cardz is a townie. Cardz perhaps is a veteran player and understands that their MUST be some meaning to the tattoos and it is almost certainly negative for the town. However, it is quite clear that tattoos are going out every night, so I ASSUME cardz would realize this and would then of course realize that voting off everyone who receives a tattoo is pointless because someone is receiving one every night. If my logic is good (and it is) then, no one in their right mind could support voting off whoever gets the tattoo each night. Why then would cardz insist on is despite being a townie? Human error.

3c. (This is where it gets interesting and very, very speculative. Hold on to the handrails and keep you arms and legs inside the vehicle). Cardz is Giovanni (or some other Sith). The people with tattoos are marked for death. The Sith benefit when someone with a tattoo dies. Two people with tattoos already died. Perhaps Cardz is attempting to vote of a townie and gain some benefit from the person with the mark dying.

3d. In conclusion, Cardz being a townie seems a little unlikely based on my logic. If he is, then he simply failed to realize how asinine it would be to vote off people just because they have a tattoo. This is certainly possible. Everyone makes mistakes. It seems more likely to me that he is a wolf attempting a good, silent kill that won't attract attention. I don't take my post about the sith needing to kill the people with tattoos too seriously. That was mostly speculative, and to acknowledge the option that Cardz could be part of that group. The only motive that would fit for that situation would be if the tattoos were marks of death.

Right.

AAM
 
I think, at this point, unless other viable leads come up, that we should further discuss the pros and cons of the arguments of both cardz, and AAM.

Since they reach opposite conclusions, naturally, one of them is a liar. As such, it is our duty as the town to figure out which one. Currently, to me at least, Cardz makes a much more sound argument. You claim that you got no notification about the tat at all. But yet, when asked, other plays have specifically said "no comment" meaning that they DID receive something, but cannot tell us what. Therefore, I find your statement about knowing nothing to lack merit. And no, your alignment is NOT confirmed.

Speech impediments can be faked (Akane did a MASTERFUL job of that this game) and being a pessimistic droid does not mean you couldn’t be turned or recruited. Even if you role claim C3PO, which you seem to be doing, we have no confirmation of that fact, nor do we have any confirmation of your alignment, say, perhaps, we have a role that can convert droids? Or, perhaps, the sith simply turned you. We have NO way to be sure, but explaining a bit more about yourself and your actions in the past few nights would really help.

Cardz isn’t “sort of a vet.” He’s THE vet, and his logic holds very true here. This isn’t a bandwagon, it’s an agreement.

Vote: Arcanine/Arbok Master

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Would anyone else care to speculate upon which of the two is the correct one? Cardz, as an aside, you told us you understand what your role does now, and that there’d be more to follow. Care to follow up, or are you waiting for something first?
 
Yeah, it's not like I was extremely suspicious about him already and that having a bit more explained would push me over the edge. Oh, wait:

~SNIP~

I dunno about the tattoo, but one other thought:
Remember back when baby Mario got killed? Anyone else remember that note on the body? It seems like we should have enough to know now what to do about it.

~SNIP~

As for cardz, he makes a better argument than AAM. Also, he does in fact have a lot more experience. Hardly "sucking up" so much as "agreeing with" But hey, it's possibly you missed the tiny section from that giant post i made at the start of the day. I took care to quote it so you can see it.
 
Oh that he does. I'm certainly not trying to begrudge cardz of some interesting and well thought out info.

However

Reacting very defensively, hardly in a calm and collected manner.

Taking the intellectual high-ground with a condescending tone.

and just in general keeping your options open with a foot in as manner doors as possible. Some of them will end up slamming.
 
ALRIGHT FOLKS, LET'S JUST TAKE MY BREADCRUMB AND ROLEFLIP ME NOW, WHY DON'T WE?
Right hella protown there, cabd. Right hella protown. Newsflash, flipping obvtown role people is not cool.

Liar is also a pretty strong word; it's entirely possible that one is just mistaken.
But seriously, "He's THE vet." pf5 got in there before me but come off it. So much buddy-buddy bandwagon.
Veteran status means absolutely nothing in terms of skill. You'll notice that RVSing little Napoleon happened to reaction pull the hard indy of this game on Day 1. Had I been Cardz, DP would have been lynched Day 1.

Sup with this "Veteran's Law" junk?
 
That is why being a vet actually does give you an advantage, thanks for bringing that up.
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I'm gonna have to disagree on that, although I do agree with jellyfisher's point. I've actually read every single WW game on the gym recently, so it could be argued that I would remember things better that some vets(lets not make this into a big argument though an just drop it now.)
Great, We're doomed.

@ Cards Post (1569)
Well, I can't provide proof that the tattoo isn't dangerous. I already admitted everything I know about it: nothing. I did not receive ANY notification about it at all. All I know is what everyone else knows. I like to believe it is harmless. I am fairly certain I know why the other two people who had it died and that is unrelated. I can not truthfully say that I KNOW that I wont be turned to Cyrus's team. I do however, find it unlikely that I will. I tend to believe that AT would not include such a powerful role. Surely if Cyrus had already marked three people, would be able to convert them shortly, and could continue doing so at the same rate for the rest of the game, his role would be too powerful. That can't be the case. I do believe that (especially with Cyrus himself dead), that the tattoo will not change my alignment. As I already said though, this is mostly speculation, intuition, and my compilated thoughts on AT's game design. Nothing is concrete.
Also, the Demi-priest is Dave, right? The barrier dropped because he died when the room collapsed?

@ThunderJolt(1570)
I think Dragonite15 was being sarcastic/ giving up. He described to the town his role and everyone accused him of making it up. Then he "confessed", died, and his role turns out to be pretty much what he was trying to describe. I think his "confession" was him just giving up, not a role-switch.

@cabd(1579):
You seem to lack a basic understanding of what is happening. King Piplup did not "raise any points" against me. He merely wants me to explain why I had him on my suspect list. I may or may not actually explain that today. I feel that we have bigger things on the rise.
Also, Cardz is ONLY calling me out for the tattoo I got. My alignment is all but confirmed. For more on what I have to say about the tattoo, read my first paragraph this post.

@Jellyfisher(1582):
Yes, it would be unlikely that AT would make that mason group with 2 wolves in it. I find it EXTREMELY probably that they would all 3 have different alignments. That happened the last game AT hosted (There was a mason group of three brothers. One of them was Wolf, one Team BlackHole, and the last was townie) . So yes, it is unlikely the Gallade is a wolf, but I find is fairly probable that Gallade is a Sith or Indie(less likely)

Final notes: Sorry for late post, was on a day trip today. Obviously, the tattoos have not stopped despite Cyrus's death. This means that the tattoos are HIGHLY unlikely to convert someone. That would be completely overpowered. I really, REALLY do not know what to think about Cardz right now. When I read his post on my phone on the road I thought this:

1. The tattoos do not seem dangerous. They are continuing despite Cyrus dying, and did not do anything so far that we can see. (They did not affect the roles of the two that died with them)
2. Cardz suddenly hasa vendetta against my tattoo and me despite the fact that I am not the only one to have one (Pokechampofpokebeach).
3. Motivation for going after me despite the tattoos not seeming dangerous (at least so far?)
3a. Cardz is a wolf. The day has shown a very split vote so far, and Cardz has decided to swing that vote to a prominent townie (me). Then when I die and my role gets revealed as town, no one is upset. Cardz whole logic is that the TATTOO is dangerous and not me, so when I die everyone already expected that I was town. Cardz does not receive any fallout or pressure because his argument centers on the tattoo. This way he can vote off a decent townie (good for the wolves) and receives no negative return-fire from players for lynching me.

3b. Cardz is a townie. Cardz perhaps is a veteran player and understands that their MUST be some meaning to the tattoos and it is almost certainly negative for the town. However, it is quite clear that tattoos are going out every night, so I ASSUME cardz would realize this and would then of course realize that voting off everyone who receives a tattoo is pointless because someone is receiving one every night. If my logic is good (and it is) then, no one in their right mind could support voting off whoever gets the tattoo each night. Why then would cardz insist on is despite being a townie? Human error.

3c. (This is where it gets interesting and very, very speculative. Hold on to the handrails and keep you arms and legs inside the vehicle). Cardz is Giovanni (or some other Sith). The people with tattoos are marked for death. The Sith benefit when someone with a tattoo dies. Two people with tattoos already died. Perhaps Cardz is attempting to vote of a townie and gain some benefit from the person with the mark dying.

3d. In conclusion, Cardz being a townie seems a little unlikely based on my logic. If he is, then he simply failed to realize how asinine it would be to vote off people just because they have a tattoo. This is certainly possible. Everyone makes mistakes. It seems more likely to me that he is a wolf attempting a good, silent kill that won't attract attention. I don't take my post about the sith needing to kill the people with tattoos too seriously. That was mostly speculative, and to acknowledge the option that Cardz could be part of that group. The only motive that would fit for that situation would be if the tattoos were marks of death.

Right.

AAM
Believe it or not, I'm actual incinded to agree with this. Cardz has felt a bit off for me this entire game, and AAM has shown me how the tatoo is not a reasonable reason to lynch him, so now it seems like Cardz is grasping for an easy lynch.
Vote: Cardzmaster2004
I do have a proposal though. If the sith numbers increase, and AAM isn't dead, we heavily consider lynching him the next day(I say consider so he isn't left alive just to be lynched the next day. Ya like WIFOM scum?)
 
I think, at this point, unless other viable leads come up, that we should further discuss the pros and cons of the arguments of both cardz, and AAM.

Since they reach opposite conclusions, naturally, one of them is a liar. As such, it is our duty as the town to figure out which one. Currently, to me at least, Cardz makes a much more sound argument. You claim that you got no notification about the tat at all. But yet, when asked, other plays have specifically said "no comment" meaning that they DID receive something, but cannot tell us what. Therefore, I find your statement about knowing nothing to lack merit. And no, your alignment is NOT confirmed.
I dont recall anybody being tattooed saying "No Comment", but rather them all just claiming to know nothing. (those with the comm-link are the ones to say "No Comment"
Speech impediments can be faked (Akane did a MASTERFUL job of that this game) and being a pessimistic droid does not mean you couldn’t be turned or recruited. Even if you role claim C3PO, which you seem to be doing, we have no confirmation of that fact, nor do we have any confirmation of your alignment, say, perhaps, we have a role that can convert droids? Or, perhaps, the sith simply turned you. We have NO way to be sure, but explaining a bit more about yourself and your actions in the past few nights would really help.

Cardz isn’t “sort of a vet.” He’s THE vet, and his logic holds very true here. This isn’t a bandwagon, it’s an agreement.
This isn't the greatest defense over the bandwagoning suspicion. Actually this comment makes me somewhat suspicious.
Vote: Arcanine/Arbok Master

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Would anyone else care to speculate upon which of the two is the correct one? Cardz, as an aside, you told us you understand what your role does now, and that there’d be more to follow. Care to follow up, or are you waiting for something first?

Bold is my comments. Had a thought about Thunderjolt. First, if they actually are Deoxys then I'm thinking he might be able to change to the other forms of Deoxys? (Attack, Defense, Offense, Speed, Normal)
Also, AAM I'm not a fan of your defense in the slightest. Not voting right now, but very tempted.
This is all I can get done on mobile. More likely to come later.
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I thought we were past the whole "noob and vet" stuff already. Any one can play chess their whole entire life and still lose 80% of the games they play cuz of their lack in skill , for those who win 80% their games their whole lives are the ones who learn from their mistakes and are skilled in tactics.

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My thoughts on this:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cynthia#Pok.C3.A9mon
So, we have a Rosarade trainer who we believe is Napoleon.
I say it is safe to say that Napoleon is Cynthia. The Spiritomb found a shiny item in the update.
So- Spiritomb is a Pokemon that is also one that Cynthia uses. And a woman also used a Garchomp that commanded the Garchomp to use earthquake blip( so hard to not type EQ like I normaly do in move reference!)blip

*Note* Since I mentioned the Garchomp, another person released a Garchomp as well, being mentioned "a pokemon trainer" .......
So, we have a Pokemon trainer player that is un-accounted for then? Trying to decipher who is who and aliagned with who and what kind of threat if any is starting to become more clear- we need to look for more clues, dig around and toggle with some ideas/theories-

All I have for now, my vote still stands as is.
 
@ Sandslash7: You are correct in discerning my identity. While something was apparently said to me, please believe me when I say that I have absolutely no idea what that was. However, there is a definite correlation between the cloaked man and my new Sith markings, as logic most clearly dictates.

Concerning the question of AA/M's alignment, I firmly do not take a stand either way. I think Cardzmaster's point is a good one, however I do not feel that the evidence entirely confirms this either. I also agree strongly with AA/M's defense. I feel that he is telling the truth. I have a Sith tattoo myself, and nothing has been explained to me about what it means. Therefore, I am very sure that the same statement applies to him.

The only thing that has stuck out in all of this is cabd's bandwagoning (it is bandwagoning, there is no argument you can make to state that it isn't). Aside from that, I have no idea as to which way I should lean on these proceedings.
 
Sorry, misread your post, Scottistru.
Unvote:Redados1

As for the Gallade regaining his memory, it could not have anything to do with an alignment switch, maybe it's a new ability. Not sure though, just throwing it out there.

During the break, I had an idea.
Has anyone ever heard of a this cipher before?
In this code, you take a key word, and move the letters of the alphabet excluding the letters of that word one or more to the right or left. (This is a variation of a Caesar Cipher) For example, using the word "password" would result in

A>A
B>Z
C>B
D>D
E>C
F>E
G>F
H>G
I>H
J>I
K>J
L>K
M>L
N>M
O>O
P>P
Q>N
R>R
S>S
T>O
U>T
V>U
W>W
X>V
Y>X
Z>Y

When you write your message, when you would want to write the letter on the left, you would replace it with the one on the right. For example, using this particular word would result in my name being

kcfcmdbakkcrk

My reasoning is that we can use this to reveal seer's results without revealing the identity of the seer.
The seer could use an uncommon or mispelled word in a person's description that they know is town, use this displacement cipher, and post their findings along with a way to tell the person which word they used, like "second mispelled word". The player that knows the word to the cipher would then decode and reveal.

Of course there are some flaws to this strategy. The wolves would kill the person posting a string of gibberish. To solve this problem, I would suggest that other people would throw out random player names in a cipher, and the real seer also adding some fabricated entries. Only the real seer's cipher would work.

The wolves would likely kill the person decoding this, but I'll address this problem later.

People could fake knowing how to decipher, but I'll handle this problem later as well.

Another flaw is that his requires a level of trust between the seer, the townie, and me, seeing as this is my plan. The seer can obviously trust the townie and only the seer would know the codeword that would be part of the townie's description. The problem here is that about 2 people trust me right now.

The three above problems could be solved by me being the person targeted by the seer and who would decode the message. If the wolves try to kill me, they'll probably succeed, but it won't be a total victory for them if all goes well...

Is this a good idea, is it a bad idea, is it too early for the seer to possibly get any good reads, or are there any problems I have failed to foresee?
 
One major problem I see is that I don't see how the seers are going to communicate the word used in the cipher with us without the wolves seeing-how would that work?
 
The important part is that a volunteer would be seered and a word in his or her character description (chosen by the volunteer and described in a way that only makes sense to people who saw the description) would be used as the keyword.
 
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