WEREWOLF XV: Pokemon Wars: GAME END: TOWN WINS!!!!! See Post 2547 for Final Update!
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DragonClyne725
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Both posts Napoleon has made in this Day have started with a sentence in all caps. This means either Napoleon is bluffing, or he/she had something change with their role during the Night. Could Napoleon be Gallade?
I think he's just posting in all caps for more emphasis.
Cardzmaster2004
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theKing: I highly doubt the capping is jsut for emphasis.
And, Napoleon, if you're trying to flip me and say EXACTLY what you need me to, why don't you do EXACTLY what you yelled at cabd for earlier in the day? It's pretty obvious right now what you're trying to do and, honestly, do you want voted for more that badly? getting whiny over someone role-flipping you and then pressuring someone else to the point they do it themselves...tsk, tsk...
...if you've got a read, say it. B/c its probably right.
~JP/cardz.
And, Napoleon, if you're trying to flip me and say EXACTLY what you need me to, why don't you do EXACTLY what you yelled at cabd for earlier in the day? It's pretty obvious right now what you're trying to do and, honestly, do you want voted for more that badly? getting whiny over someone role-flipping you and then pressuring someone else to the point they do it themselves...tsk, tsk...
...if you've got a read, say it. B/c its probably right.
~JP/cardz.
DragonClyne725
New Member
Napoleon has done it twice now, and I'm not so sure it is just for emphasis. Has it ever happened before where someone gained a speech impediment later in the game?
@CardzMaster2004:
Still waiting to hear what you meant when you said
Cardzmaster2004 said:
Care to elaborate?
Cardzmaster2004
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DragonClyne (and other who might not know this): I never personally role reveal. i do drop hints to my role if needed (which it is) and will comment on my specific role once someone has perfectly stated what it is (which I've given enough info for people to figure out EXACTLY what it is). One only need to check my posts (of which there aren't many) to know what I do.
Its a semantics issue at this point, and I don't compromise personal convictions in any way. Feel free to dive away, jsut not too hard.
~JP/cardz.
Its a semantics issue at this point, and I don't compromise personal convictions in any way. Feel free to dive away, jsut not too hard.
~JP/cardz.
1625
I apologize for my short-sightedness and over-eagerness in voting. I've never been the type to be able to sit still.
UNVOTE: Arcanine/Arbok Master
At this point, I think it's fair if i just leave my vote off the table for a while. I'll cool down and let the people with more knowledge (apparently) hash out some more details.
Once again, sorry for jumping the gun.
@DragonClyne, we had that happen in THIS game, had Mr. X not been killed, he would have had the emoticon impediment.
I apologize for my short-sightedness and over-eagerness in voting. I've never been the type to be able to sit still.
UNVOTE: Arcanine/Arbok Master
At this point, I think it's fair if i just leave my vote off the table for a while. I'll cool down and let the people with more knowledge (apparently) hash out some more details.
Once again, sorry for jumping the gun.
@DragonClyne, we had that happen in THIS game, had Mr. X not been killed, he would have had the emoticon impediment.
Benzo
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Vote: Cardz
Unvote: Thunderjolt
bleep shhhvrrrrrtt bjjjjjjjjoopp gggrrrrrggggrrr woo-whoo! it worked this time! :biggrin:
Sorry, I have no clue as to why it was not letting me bold before-
This posting is the "patch" I stated in my previouse post to fix the bold issue. :thumb:
Unvote: Thunderjolt
bleep shhhvrrrrrtt bjjjjjjjjoopp gggrrrrrggggrrr woo-whoo! it worked this time! :biggrin:
Sorry, I have no clue as to why it was not letting me bold before-
This posting is the "patch" I stated in my previouse post to fix the bold issue. :thumb:
DragonClyne (and other who might not know this): I never personally role reveal. i do drop hints to my role if needed (which it is) and will comment on my specific role once someone has perfectly stated what it is (which I've given enough info for people to figure out EXACTLY what it is). One only need to check my posts (of which there aren't many) to know what I do.
Its a semantics issue at this point, and I don't compromise personal convictions in any way. Feel free to dive away, jsut not too hard.
~JP/cardz.
Fair enough. I'll figure it out for myself, I guess, but you honestly haven't posted enough, at the very least, I've not been able to determine anything about your role. I'll give it a serious shot now, though. I'll post my results in the morning, most likely.
Arcanine/Arbok Master
New Member
Summary of posts Day 6 ( this is a summary of all the medium - long length posts for referencing).
1442 - Cardz - Claims to finally know what his role does. Later on admits that he has leaked enough info for people to figure it out
Jpulice makes a tier list of alignments, receives flak fro jellyfisher and cabd, then makes a cryptic post saying he knows more than he is saying and that he is in danger. (Also voted for SS7)
Benzo (1536) - Says that: "I think Nepoleon is Giovonie, Thunderjolt is Mewtwo, and your stuck with these two holding you like a puppet." Also, requests jpulice's hidden info
Toxictaipan (1537) - Defends Redados1, saying his role is confirmed and that he ruined it by revealing. Asks Redados1 to reveal whatever he can,
Cabd then agrees that Redados isn't a good target by laying out the expected value of lynching him.
AAM (1541) - Accused jellyfisher, toxictaipan, and pokechamp of being scummy based on their voting history. Also said that Redados's role is confirmed and that he probably is telling the truth.
PokemonFreak5 (1546) Rejects my evidence, saying it is too early in the game to know.
King piplup (1553) role claims as man in engine room
Cardz (1554) Says he has been silenced for the past few days.
Scott (1556) - Summary of burn/bruising roles. This tells us that Napoleon has a salamence, Gallade belongs to a "group", pf5 is a man, Sandslash7 is a man in a cloak.
Pokechamp (1558) - Says my evidence is wrong and that he and toxic/jelly have been playing well.
JellyFisher (1560) - Claims he didn't participate all 5 times in the lynch. Says my logic is faulty.
Cabd (1563) - Points out Napoleon is cynthia. Asks Gallade to tell more about the group.
AAM (1564) - I inform Jellyfisher that I was liberal with my analysis on day 2 votes. Then I claim that voting patterns are important to look at.
Redados1 (1565) - His role is still working. Says he hasn't found enough infor worth dying for yet.
Cardz (1569) - Again claims to have been silenced for "past few days". Says tattoos must be for creating a new jedi order, then votes for AAM since he has a tattoo. Lists all people / roles in the game. Then tries to find a pattern in the kill numbers (13, 9, 17, 1)
SS7 ( 1575): Points out that sith aren't growing in numbers -> tattoos must not turn alignments. Notes we still have a priest. Strongly believe PokeChamp is wobbufett. Not sure why. Has anyone even said that Wob was in the game?
Cabd (1577) Asks AAM to defend himself.
Jellyfisher (1582) - Says Gallade probably not wolf since Blitzer was in a group with him and was. (I find likely that he isn't townie since ralts was in the group)
Benzo (1583) - Still believe Thunderjolt is lieing about being Deoxys. Believe SS7 is right about tattoos not converting people.
AAM (1587) - Claims to know nothing about tattoo. Said that Cardz last vote/logic was faulty because voting off a tattoo'd person each day is self-defeating. Said that Cardz either made a mistake or is a wolf looking for wsy lynch.
Cabd (1588) - Says Cardz and I reach opposite conclusions. (About the danger of the tattoos, I guess). Accuses me of not having a speech impediment.
pokemon freak 5 (1591) - Accuses cabd of bandwagoning and being defensive.
Napoleon (1592) Criticizes Cabds revealing of his role and voting of AAM.
Scott(1593) - Agrees with my post about Cardz, votes for Cardz.
Pokechamp ( 1596) - Claims as wobbufett. Jumps on cabd for wagoning.
LegendCaller(1597) - Suggests the town use a system to pass seer information around - ciphering.
Jellyfisher (1603) - Accuses cabd of wagoning. Says pokechamp said nothing about tattoo (even though he did @1596) and that Cardz/me aren't good lynches.
Cabd (1604) - Admits mistake in voting for AAM. Says cipher is easily defeatable. Can't believe Cardz/me really have no leads.
AAM (1606) - Asks cipher plan to be better explaines (like give me the exact steps as to how it would work). Talked about the proof for own innocence. Concluded that Cabd is probably a townie based on his aggresive votes.
Ikrit (1609) - Points out that Cardz lied about not being able to post. Points out Cardz inactivity. Points out that many people on Cardz hit-list died and ALL of them were townies. Accuses Cardz Vote of AAM to be wishy0washy and therefore wolfy.
Jpulice (1615) - Points out that we can look at past priest targets and one must be Giovanni. By process of elimination Spartacus and Cardz are likely to be Giovanni. Jpulice believe he knows Cardz role (partly due to Dave628) and the he is not wolf/sith. Then he accuses ikrit of voting for cardz despite saying he had no read.
Benzo (1616) - Believes tattoos are harmless. Says he suspects Cardz based on his wording style. Votes for cardz but admits he still suspects Thunderjolt.
PokeChamp (1617) - Says that cardz post was mainly assumptions and Ikrit's is more logical.
JellyFisher ( 1619) - Agrees with jpulice. Scott just said Jpulice ws hypocritcal.
Cardz (1620) - Says he was wrong about the post restrictions / tattoos. Mainly suspects Redados now.
General discusion about Gallade's CAPS - Cardz doubts it is voluntary.
Cardz ( 1626) - Admits that he has leaked enough infor to show his role.
This information isn't going to help anyone..
I will actually read over again what I have compiled here tomorrow and talk more about it. This is just a quick reference to help keep track of all the finger pointing / long posts that happened. I skipped a few posts in this summary because they were small.
I am trying to figure out alignments based on how players are interacting in this game-day.
1442 - Cardz - Claims to finally know what his role does. Later on admits that he has leaked enough info for people to figure it out
Jpulice makes a tier list of alignments, receives flak fro jellyfisher and cabd, then makes a cryptic post saying he knows more than he is saying and that he is in danger. (Also voted for SS7)
Benzo (1536) - Says that: "I think Nepoleon is Giovonie, Thunderjolt is Mewtwo, and your stuck with these two holding you like a puppet." Also, requests jpulice's hidden info
Toxictaipan (1537) - Defends Redados1, saying his role is confirmed and that he ruined it by revealing. Asks Redados1 to reveal whatever he can,
Cabd then agrees that Redados isn't a good target by laying out the expected value of lynching him.
AAM (1541) - Accused jellyfisher, toxictaipan, and pokechamp of being scummy based on their voting history. Also said that Redados's role is confirmed and that he probably is telling the truth.
PokemonFreak5 (1546) Rejects my evidence, saying it is too early in the game to know.
King piplup (1553) role claims as man in engine room
Cardz (1554) Says he has been silenced for the past few days.
Scott (1556) - Summary of burn/bruising roles. This tells us that Napoleon has a salamence, Gallade belongs to a "group", pf5 is a man, Sandslash7 is a man in a cloak.
Pokechamp (1558) - Says my evidence is wrong and that he and toxic/jelly have been playing well.
JellyFisher (1560) - Claims he didn't participate all 5 times in the lynch. Says my logic is faulty.
Cabd (1563) - Points out Napoleon is cynthia. Asks Gallade to tell more about the group.
AAM (1564) - I inform Jellyfisher that I was liberal with my analysis on day 2 votes. Then I claim that voting patterns are important to look at.
Redados1 (1565) - His role is still working. Says he hasn't found enough infor worth dying for yet.
Cardz (1569) - Again claims to have been silenced for "past few days". Says tattoos must be for creating a new jedi order, then votes for AAM since he has a tattoo. Lists all people / roles in the game. Then tries to find a pattern in the kill numbers (13, 9, 17, 1)
SS7 ( 1575): Points out that sith aren't growing in numbers -> tattoos must not turn alignments. Notes we still have a priest. Strongly believe PokeChamp is wobbufett. Not sure why. Has anyone even said that Wob was in the game?
Cabd (1577) Asks AAM to defend himself.
Jellyfisher (1582) - Says Gallade probably not wolf since Blitzer was in a group with him and was. (I find likely that he isn't townie since ralts was in the group)
Benzo (1583) - Still believe Thunderjolt is lieing about being Deoxys. Believe SS7 is right about tattoos not converting people.
AAM (1587) - Claims to know nothing about tattoo. Said that Cardz last vote/logic was faulty because voting off a tattoo'd person each day is self-defeating. Said that Cardz either made a mistake or is a wolf looking for wsy lynch.
Cabd (1588) - Says Cardz and I reach opposite conclusions. (About the danger of the tattoos, I guess). Accuses me of not having a speech impediment.
pokemon freak 5 (1591) - Accuses cabd of bandwagoning and being defensive.
Napoleon (1592) Criticizes Cabds revealing of his role and voting of AAM.
Scott(1593) - Agrees with my post about Cardz, votes for Cardz.
Pokechamp ( 1596) - Claims as wobbufett. Jumps on cabd for wagoning.
LegendCaller(1597) - Suggests the town use a system to pass seer information around - ciphering.
Jellyfisher (1603) - Accuses cabd of wagoning. Says pokechamp said nothing about tattoo (even though he did @1596) and that Cardz/me aren't good lynches.
Cabd (1604) - Admits mistake in voting for AAM. Says cipher is easily defeatable. Can't believe Cardz/me really have no leads.
AAM (1606) - Asks cipher plan to be better explaines (like give me the exact steps as to how it would work). Talked about the proof for own innocence. Concluded that Cabd is probably a townie based on his aggresive votes.
Ikrit (1609) - Points out that Cardz lied about not being able to post. Points out Cardz inactivity. Points out that many people on Cardz hit-list died and ALL of them were townies. Accuses Cardz Vote of AAM to be wishy0washy and therefore wolfy.
Jpulice (1615) - Points out that we can look at past priest targets and one must be Giovanni. By process of elimination Spartacus and Cardz are likely to be Giovanni. Jpulice believe he knows Cardz role (partly due to Dave628) and the he is not wolf/sith. Then he accuses ikrit of voting for cardz despite saying he had no read.
Benzo (1616) - Believes tattoos are harmless. Says he suspects Cardz based on his wording style. Votes for cardz but admits he still suspects Thunderjolt.
PokeChamp (1617) - Says that cardz post was mainly assumptions and Ikrit's is more logical.
JellyFisher ( 1619) - Agrees with jpulice. Scott just said Jpulice ws hypocritcal.
Cardz (1620) - Says he was wrong about the post restrictions / tattoos. Mainly suspects Redados now.
General discusion about Gallade's CAPS - Cardz doubts it is voluntary.
Cardz ( 1626) - Admits that he has leaked enough infor to show his role.
This information isn't going to help anyone..
I will actually read over again what I have compiled here tomorrow and talk more about it. This is just a quick reference to help keep track of all the finger pointing / long posts that happened. I skipped a few posts in this summary because they were small.
I am trying to figure out alignments based on how players are interacting in this game-day.
King Piplup
Active Member
Alright, I've filled this in to the best of my ability. Of course there are probably certain people out there who know a whole lot more than on that list (And I think I've picked a few more up, but didn't risk putting them there)
As for AAM's post, it's a great summary of the game day. (as far as when I role-claimed, note that I am one of the two people in there)
So, we're down to a day and 5 hours. And the vote tally based on Mod's last post, and what I've counted since that post.
The highest vote right now is Cardz at 4. This leaves us really vulnerable to a last minute lynch by the wolves. Everybody else only has one vote against them. I guess the question is, who do we lynch?
Napoleon
New Member
Cardz, for someone who's supposed to be THE VET of this game you're pretty indifferent to heavy-Jack-of-all-trade roles being flipped. I'm not surprised you were eaten alive on other forums if you piloted that sort of playstyle.
And no, I'm not asking you to claim. I'd only do that if you were one or two votes from lynch. You flipped your case over entirely as soon as you got a few quick votes on you. One does not put so much thought into an argument and back out of it unless they know from the outset that it was bad.
You're not in much of a position to be making quotes about it being "obvious what I'm trying to do". One of us is significantly more clear-town than the other and the scales clearly aren't in your favor there.
To be quite honest the caps is coming out because I'm rather frustrated at how the game has deviated almost entirely to this hit-and-miss dice game. It's not some role change or whatever. If you so wish, double bump me and I'll "break the condition". Pretty obvious I'm Cynthia.
Day 6...honestly don't see why Seer hasn't outed with reports. 4-6 live clears are pretty clutch right now and I'm not into this hypocop/seer trash. Ofc if they don't have that many live reports then nothing needs to happen.
Just by the way, the reason I'm annoyed about being flipped is that the purpose of my role is to pull my wolf counterpart and eliminate them. Pretty sure that's Cyrus. While I didn't expect people to know that my point stands; flipping roles is unnecessary and has screwed my gambit completely.
Suddenly, I'm in a pretty bad position, no? I'm safe for least two more nights I would think but that's the limit.
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And no, I'm not asking you to claim. I'd only do that if you were one or two votes from lynch. You flipped your case over entirely as soon as you got a few quick votes on you. One does not put so much thought into an argument and back out of it unless they know from the outset that it was bad.
You're not in much of a position to be making quotes about it being "obvious what I'm trying to do". One of us is significantly more clear-town than the other and the scales clearly aren't in your favor there.
To be quite honest the caps is coming out because I'm rather frustrated at how the game has deviated almost entirely to this hit-and-miss dice game. It's not some role change or whatever. If you so wish, double bump me and I'll "break the condition". Pretty obvious I'm Cynthia.
Day 6...honestly don't see why Seer hasn't outed with reports. 4-6 live clears are pretty clutch right now and I'm not into this hypocop/seer trash. Ofc if they don't have that many live reports then nothing needs to happen.
Just by the way, the reason I'm annoyed about being flipped is that the purpose of my role is to pull my wolf counterpart and eliminate them. Pretty sure that's Cyrus. While I didn't expect people to know that my point stands; flipping roles is unnecessary and has screwed my gambit completely.
Suddenly, I'm in a pretty bad position, no? I'm safe for least two more nights I would think but that's the limit.
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King Piplup
Active Member
^If we last two more nights, and at this rate...It's questionable...
Absoltrainer
Active Member
VOTE TALLEY
Players Remaining: 22
Votes needed to lynch: 12
Napoleon: 1 Redados1
Jellyfisher: 1 Arcanie/Arbok Master
Cardzmaster2004: 4 Scottistru, Ikrit, Napoleon, Benzo
Ikrit: 1 jpulice
Players Remaining: 22
Votes needed to lynch: 12
Napoleon: 1 Redados1
Jellyfisher: 1 Arcanie/Arbok Master
Cardzmaster2004: 4 Scottistru, Ikrit, Napoleon, Benzo
Ikrit: 1 jpulice
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No, I unvoted in post 1627. AAM should have zero votes now.
Anyways, from the looks of things, we're running out of time, and one of the two plans we mentioned a while back are sounding good to me. Either the cypher, or the redados role reveal thing. Both are sounding pretty decent right now.
Arcanine/Arbok Master
New Member
Small post before work:
The whole ship is going to collapse on us.
I think the tattoos definitely were part of the starred out portion of Cyrus's role. MAYBE The siths win so long as they and the people with tattoos are the only people left in the game. So once everyone other than them is dead / or has a tattoo then that is their win condition. Just a thought.
The whole ship is going to collapse on us.
I think the tattoos definitely were part of the starred out portion of Cyrus's role. MAYBE The siths win so long as they and the people with tattoos are the only people left in the game. So once everyone other than them is dead / or has a tattoo then that is their win condition. Just a thought.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
New Member
Concerning redados, I've actually had a change of heart. I don't really feel he is suspicious anymore. His role-revealing was awful, but bottom-line, he did give us names and the information he gave us appears to be accurate. Grilling Redados isn't going to tell get anything that we don't already know. In my opinion it is a waste of time. Right now, we need to analyze the facts and figure who is a wolf in townie's clothing. I am scouring through older posts to see if I can find anything, and I suggest you all do the same.
toxictaipan
New Member
Hey, Napoleon. I have a question for you. How do you explain being both a man and a woman?
http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2099092&postcount=957
Here, you claim self protection with Lucario.
Fight scene:
Lucario returns to the MAN he was protecting.
Well, uhm, not really. So, what up?
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http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2099092&postcount=957
Here, you claim self protection with Lucario.
Fight scene:
Lucario returns to the MAN he was protecting.
Well, uhm, not really. So, what up?
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Absoltrainer
Active Member
VOTE TALLEY
Players Remaining: 22
Votes needed to lynch: 12
Napoleon: 1 Redados1
Jellyfisher: 1 Arcanie/Arbok Master
Cardzmaster2004: 4 Scottistru, Ikrit, Napoleon, Benzo
Ikrit: 1 jpulice
Players Remaining: 22
Votes needed to lynch: 12
Napoleon: 1 Redados1
Jellyfisher: 1 Arcanie/Arbok Master
Cardzmaster2004: 4 Scottistru, Ikrit, Napoleon, Benzo
Ikrit: 1 jpulice
1639.
Absol, you need to edit the thread title, it still says Monday (today) not Weds (the 9th)
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@toxictaipan, I thought it was pretty obvious that napoleon/Cynthia sent the lucario to protect a man, not him(her)self.
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@Cardz. I've gone through every single post you've made on this thread, and yet, I don't see any clues as to your role's function. In fact, all I can see is where you say Napoleon's logic is good and confirmed your innocence. But that logic was based upon the premise that the silencing role targeting you was wolf/sith-aligned. And yet, it turned out to be town-aligned (Gengar)
Can't believe I almost missed that. So, unless you're revealing your role in code, there's not much out there that shows your role. Can one of the other players comment on this? Am I missing something obvious?
Absol, you need to edit the thread title, it still says Monday (today) not Weds (the 9th)
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@toxictaipan, I thought it was pretty obvious that napoleon/Cynthia sent the lucario to protect a man, not him(her)self.
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@Cardz. I've gone through every single post you've made on this thread, and yet, I don't see any clues as to your role's function. In fact, all I can see is where you say Napoleon's logic is good and confirmed your innocence. But that logic was based upon the premise that the silencing role targeting you was wolf/sith-aligned. And yet, it turned out to be town-aligned (Gengar)
Can't believe I almost missed that. So, unless you're revealing your role in code, there's not much out there that shows your role. Can one of the other players comment on this? Am I missing something obvious?