Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

WEREWOLF XV: Pokemon Wars: GAME END: TOWN WINS!!!!! See Post 2547 for Final Update!

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Thank you, Cardz, I await your post tonight.

UNVOTE: Cardzmaster2004
VOTE: Benson

I'd REALLY like to hear why you jumped so quickly to protect Napoleon, Benson. It's kinda scummy to me. I mean, looks like, from an outside perspective, that you're trying to defend a team-mate.

Female + Roserade + Garchomp + Lucario = Go figure
 
Anyone that is still wondering about my role, i'm in a group with a few other people. For our safety i'm not going to name who it is, but we are town aligned.
 
Female + Roserade + Garchomp + Lucario = Go figure

If Napoleon is who you are suggesting (s)he is, then yes, (s)he's townie. I see what you mean now.

Well, this is quite the issue. All of the remaining players have chimed in and at least made minor helpful work towards the town.

Except theKing, that is.

UNVOTE: Benson

I won't keep playing merry-go-round with my vote, but theKing's relative silence and attempts to fly low under the radar have me wondering.

@Gallade. We already knew you were in a group. Can you tell us what function your group serves as a whole, without revealing names of members of it?
 
First off, I would like to point that I DID NOT, participate in the lynch all five times. The first day, I was 2nd person to vote for E4A, and I did not remove my vote for the entire day. And that day Porii Sames was lynched. I would also like to point out that I did not join the vote about half way through.

You are thinking of day 2. Day 2 was certainly weird. You were actually the first person to vote for E4A (now Scott) that day and the vote ended up getting tied. My analysis was a bit liberal for day 2 since the strange turn of votes at the end of the day was a bit of an anomaly and resulted in a tie.

And what about Dragonite15? I think everyone thought he really was a wolf. So can you really blame me for voting him?

Yes. Right now, even if you are town, your voting history is bad

And besides that, I don't think your logic for voting me is good enough. Its not like I haven't given a good reason for each of my votes. Maybe if I had just repeated what everyone else said, or not said anything at all, then that would have given you a reason for voting me. But I didn't.

I'm not even going to bother looking at each vote and checking to see if you statements are correct. The reasoning for your vote just isn't enough to make me want to do that.So until (and if) you can find something better to base your vote on, that is all I'm going to post.

Voting patterns are important to consider at this point in the game. The reason so many townies have been getting voted off is likely to do with wolves showing up at the right time to manipulate the vote. I don't necessarily expect them to cast the first vote, but I do expect them to silently start wagoning for someone early on in the day. Jellyfisher's voting pattern is the MOST indicative of a wolf/sith right now and that is my opinion. I am not a seer.

Pokechamp and toxictaipan are on my list for the same reason. If you count the night 2 tie vote (which I do), they voted 4/5 people off, casting their vote in first half of voters who did. It just seems to me that either these people are bandwagoning against the first person that receives 2 votes every day, or they are wolves and still doing this anyways. That is my proof. It certainly isn't proof. Its just my perspective on game strategy and my best leads so far. Oh, I also wouldn't mind targeting King Piplup. More on that later.

Not like anyone is going to care about this at all...
 
Things are still functioning at night.
My vote today was the only one of its kind.

There's lots of information out there still to find...

This whole I sacrifice myself to make the post sounds like a good plan if I find something incredibly useful out. So if I find something out, that looks like a good plan. But Ill ask you guys first of course.

No need to MAKE me with votes. If the majority of people want me to I will.

Lol now posting is like walking in a minefield :p
 
Praisalujah for the extension. I was totaly thinking someone was gonna get midkilled and I wasn't going to get to post ANYTHING.

So, since I've been silenced the past few days (*GLARE* at whoever is silencing me) I've been compiling my thoughts into a Word document. However, this document has become RATHER large, so I have broken down into two MAJOR chunks: Night analysis with a focus on Nights 4 and 5 and game analysis with a focus on Days 3, 4, and 5. while I'm still putting the final edits on the game analysis, the Night analysis is MORE than done and contain who I personally will be voting for today unless I'm swayed otherwise. And, trust me, only a GOOD, WELL-REASON ARGUMENT is going to sway me.

BTW, this is over four pages long in Word, so bear with the rambling...
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Remaining Players:
2. Redados1
8. Time For Pain / cabd
10. Napoleon
15. PokeChampofPokeBeach
16. Benson
18. jpulice
19. Jellyfisher
21. Sandslash7
22. Ikrit
25. theKing
27. gallade
28. Dragonclyne725
32. Thunderjolt
33. Arcanine/Arbok Master
34. Cardzmaster2004
35. PokemonFreak5
36. Toxictapian
37. Poke Dude / Cardkeeper / King Piplup
38. LegendCallerL
39. Lucario ex: / Spartacus
40. Marshtomp / Benzo
41. Elite 4 Allen /Scottistru

People Killed by Wolves and other notable night actions:
Day 1: in theory, None. Although from the update, it looks like Diaz sacked himself, which could be to distribute his poke balls out to the populous of Wolves. The solves would obviously have first dibs on many of the Pokemon since they knew that, with the update, Poke Balls would be dropped and scattered. 13

Day 2: Baby Mario was the target and was killed. 9

Day 3: ulti was targeted and killed by the wolves. 17 This is also the first day that tattoos started showing up, yet nothing about tattoos being distributed is mentioned ANYWHERE in the update. The only thing that COULD be construed as tattoo giving would be ulti’s last-breath discussion with the man he talks to, who I can only assume is part of the masonic group.

Day 4: No one.

And this is important to see, because its easy just to assume that Gengar was the obvious target here.

In night 4, since we know a Pokemon Hunter is/was part of the game, we can deduce that Gengar was not killed by Wolf means. Wolves up to this point have (and continue) to use lightsabers, force-abilities, and more blunt forces over-narrated by Palpatine. This killing is a simple grenade to the face. It is also important to note that the hunter in this case is a woman. Now that we know PKMN Hunter J is a female, its obvious who killed Gengar now.

The real Wolf target this night was Priested. Very lucky on our part, and turns into chaotic goodness for the town. Also of note is this quote:

“Cyrus slowly took a deep breath and cocked back his arm, “The end of an era,” he slammed his fist into Gallade’s abdomen with a Force enhanced punch, “and the beginning of my new Empire!”

My new empire being the most important thing here. It is obvious that there are more than one faction in this game. I believe that Cyrus’s other role, based on facts this night and those of the previous night, is create a new Jedi order and that these tattoos will lead us to its members. It is only seen that Cyrus talks to one person this night. And only one person the next day pops up with a tat.

And that person is Arcanine/Arbok Master.

Anyone who wishes to propose counters to this argument is free to. I know A/AM is a strong player and I would love ot have him deep into this game. But the information from this night leans WAY too much towards us needed to get rid of AAM. BTW, this happened MULTIPLE nights ago; how’d y’all miss that?

VOTE: Arcanine/Arbok Master

Night 5: Good lord, what a long update.

The Wolf (and seemingly everyone else’s target) for the night was Lucario/DarthPika 1. While he was supposedly priested at the beginning of night, the barrier is dropped later in the evening after faltering. Odd…so we have a half priest somewhere in the town? I hope so…

So, we at least know why people were getting beat up. And we should be able to figure out what roles they have based on what happened in the corresponding night updates. Someone might wanna go back and back-check these to figure out who’s doing what and if anything is scummy or lynchable for it.

As for the other death’s they’re pretty significant. In theory our Priest is gone; however, in a game this large and from reading the updates, I believe there are two Priests in this game so we should still be fine (just not as fine) on this front.

Confirmed Roles Still in Game (according to Day 5):

Mechanic
Cross-legged creature (note CREATURE, not Pokemon; Yoda?)
One of the Fetts (Jango, I believe, from the costuming description)
Demi-Priest
Riffle guy
Four-Legged Electric Pokemon (prevents posting/voting in the next game-day; COULD be D.Pika’s other ability)
Deoxys (Purple and blue PKMN, per the claim earlier today)
Darth Pikachu
Emperor Palpatine
Another Wolf (?)
Giovanni
Giovanni’s Sith (2-3)
Gallade
Male Jedi
Female Jedi
Luke Skywalker (I REFUSE to believe any SW-themed game would go without both Skywalker twins)
Shadow Man
Control-Room Guy

that’s approximately 18 roles, leaving 4 roles I’ve missed from back-engineering Day5’s role list. I’d say, honestly, that this is pretty comprehensive. Interesting to note is that NOTHING from the update looks like Redados’ role from what he’s been describing. I think we’re deep enough into the game that those last three-four roles I missed and probably just vanillas. Mayhaps we should start grabbing roles from the list a see who’s left?

Absolutely not.

As more people leave the Village: yes, this could be a viable strategy. But we’re only on Day 6 people. In the coming days this chart will be more useful in tracking roles and seeing who REALLY is left in the game. But, for now, I think its best we dive into player alignments, scumminess, etc. I’m glad to have my voice back and will be doing a PLAYER, not update, analysis in the next two days. Expect another info dump on pretty much every player and my choice in scumminess of them (sort of lice jppulice’s chart, but differing in its arrangement).

also, I tried to see if the Wolves were lynching on a pattern. Assuming they went for DP two nights in a row, which I believe they did, the numbers on the list for their kill spree is: 13, 9, 17, 1. I…don’t see a pattern here, does anyone else? This does factor into my next major post.

For right now, these people top my scum lsit based SOLELY on Night updates:

--Redados: You role doesn’t appear in the night updates in the way you’re describing it. Unless you can SPECIFICALLY point to an instance of where your role is working, you need to get off the fake role claim and prepare for a lynching or finding SOME OTHER excuse for us not to kick you out inot the air lock. Kthnxbye.

--A/AM: sucks you got tatted on the ngiht you did, but its VERY much shoots you up to the top of my suspicion list for today. If that tat has some meaning other than alternate alignment, let us know because its making you look VERY scummy in analysis of the previous nights.

--Pikamaster: Same reasoning as before. I believe each night, one person with a tat is a decoy, and the other was he REAL recruit (in other words, it makes us evaluate each tat received). With dave being the decoy this day, you are slightly implicated, but not NEARLY as much as A/AM IMO.
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Again, any and all are welcome to refute my ideas and I do encourage this. but I think I've made a pretty good case with solid deductions for everything I've said. I look forward to reading the rest of your statements today and tonight. Expect m other post tomorrow with the full organization fo where I feel everyone stands right now. Until then...

~Cardz.
 
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Looking back at everything, I've been wondering, might there be some sort of role that switches what dead players roles show up as? What I'm trying to say is that, Diaz is shown as a wolf, but was said to be a wolf himself. Also, Dragonite15 said he was a wolf but showed up as a non-wolf. So could it be that somehow their roles showed up switched with one another, as in Dragonite really was a wolf and Diaz had Dragonite's role?

Just something I've been pondering about, because I just don't see why the wolves would have killed one of their own. I suppose it doesn't really matter anyway.
 
I think you might have missed some things in the night 5 update cardz, because pikamaster is dead, and the demi-priest you talk about is dave
 
VOTE TALLEY
Players Remaining: 22
Votes needed to lynch: 12

Napoleon: 1 Redados1
Sandslash7: 1 jpulice
Redados1: 1 LegendCallerL
thunderjolt: 1 Benzo
Jellyfisher: 1 Arcanie/Arbok Master
Arcanine/Arbok Master: 1: Cardzmaster2004
 
Voting patterns are important to consider at this point in the game. The reason so many townies have been getting voted off is likely to do with wolves showing up at the right time to manipulate the vote. I don't necessarily expect them to cast the first vote, but I do expect them to silently start wagoning for someone early on in the day. Jellyfisher's voting pattern is the MOST indicative of a wolf/sith right now and that is my opinion. I am not a seer.

Pokechamp and toxictaipan are on my list for the same reason. If you count the night 2 tie vote (which I do), they voted 4/5 people off, casting their vote in first half of voters who did. It just seems to me that either these people are bandwagoning against the first person that receives 2 votes every day, or they are wolves and still doing this anyways. That is my proof. It certainly isn't proof. Its just my perspective on game strategy and my best leads so far. Oh, I also wouldn't mind targeting King Piplup. More on that later.

Not like anyone is going to care about this at all...
(Italics mine)
I'd really like to hear this.

Cardz's post-If Redados isn't lying, then there are 2 roles that limit/restrict speech remaining in the game. Otherwise, it was a great post that I think we can be using for the rest of the game to help determine roles/people.
 
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Looking back at everything, I've been wondering, might there be some sort of role that switches what dead players roles show up as? What I'm trying to say is that, Diaz is shown as a wolf, but was said to be a wolf himself. Also, Dragonite15 said he was a wolf but showed up as a non-wolf. So could it be that somehow their roles showed up switched with one another, as in Dragonite really was a wolf and Diaz had Dragonite's role?

Just something I've been pondering about, because I just don't see why the wolves would have killed one of their own. I suppose it doesn't really matter anyway.

I don't think so. In the first update, it made it pretty clear that Diaz was part of the empire. Besides that, it just seems to weird to be a role.
 
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I'm posting this analysis of the night update as a "stream-of-consciousness" so bear with me.

Barracks: Wobbufett may have been recruited by the Sith here.

Hanger: Cloaked man peers into the vastness of space and is shocked by a Pikachu/Jolteon or something. This is also seen by a seer. (Probably Deoxys as you have said already)

Control Room: Jedi appear (only four of them)
(so now we know that a Gallade and a Lucario are both Jedi at this point)
It seems that Lucario has been priested.
Notice how there are 4 Sith now and 4 Jedi. An "even" match. Additionally, its clear that the then Number 2 took over for Cyrus.
One Sith leaves. Intruiging.
Palpatine shows himself (and Darth Pikachu seems more grovelling than usual)

One of the two hidden Control Room people is seen.

Pokemon Hunter J appears (clearly also the person who killed the Gengar as well, from what I remember without looking back on the previous days)

Gallade teleports to the Mess, where structural integrity is failing, (one other person is there)
Gallade also seems to have remembered something (very integral to his role I'd assume)

PHJ CAPTURES Darth Pikachu. What an interesting turn of events.

Also, the Imperial Glory (SUCH a fitting name) is falling apart.

The priest Lady is hit by falling debris (does this kill her? Apparently, yes, since she's Princess Leia)

Lucario ALSO remembers something. That he is Mr. X. (I wonder what this bodes for our dear Gallade Jedi Friend)


Engine Room: Well, we have confirmation that there are (were) 2 Preists.
Emperor Palpatine approaches the priested man. (for what purpose?)




Carnage Report:
Akane = dead (the other being in the Mess, i.e. the Wookie)
Mess(room) = inactive
Dave628 = dead (priest number 1, Princess Leia Skywalker Organa Solo ;) )
Pikamaster = dead (Pokemon Hunter J)
Darth Pika = dead (Jedi Lucario/MR. X)
Control Room (room) = inactive


Postish-update things: Sandslash7 is burned. PokeChampofPokeBeach has a Sith Tattoo.

Notice how a man cloaked in black approached Wobbufett and mentioned something. Also notice how I've said that I think that when someone is approached, there seems to be a correlation to people gaining strange tattoos. Therefore I would suggest that PokeChampofPokeBeach is Wobbufett. Does this mean he is a Sith? Given Pikamaster's role/Alignment, probably not. But, we must still wait and see. (and I need to go back and analyze the other night updates again.


About myself being burned. If you haven't figured it out already, it is really not that hard. Read the update and everything will become clear.





I'm only going to give brief overviews of post-update-posts, since I don't have much time right now.

Post-Update Posts: Redados1 votes for Napoleon. Strange.

Spartacus/Thunderjolt/cabd: Seems logical.

Scottistru: Good lists.

jpulice: Did you pay attention to the update at all?

Scottistru (1503): I agree. Cardz has promised us multiple big posts on more than one occasion. How many have we gotten? Too few. (though now we have gotten a good one after the "unpause")






Various thoughts that are uncategorized:

Well, my initial thoughts are correct in that we have more than 2 parties: Sith, Jedi, Town, Wolves, (and possibly that other group that is town-ish aligned, or is that the Jedi?)

The last time we saw a Sith vs Jedi fight, it was 5 vs 3 (S>J) One Sith was killed (Cyrus). Today, it was 4 vs 4. So the Jedi gained (and then promptly lost) a Jedi in Lucario. So it doesn't seem that the Sith are actually recruiting people to be SITH, but that they are possibly recruiting people to be on the Sith SIDE. In the Sith wars thousands of years ago, they used the Mandalorians and other non-Sith to wage war against the Galactic Republic. Yet this is undermined by the fact that there was no information about the recently deceased tattooed person acquiring a change in alignment. Interesting.
 
Voting patterns are important to consider at this point in the game. The reason so many townies have been getting voted off is likely to do with wolves showing up at the right time to manipulate the vote. I don't necessarily expect them to cast the first vote, but I do expect them to silently start wagoning for someone early on in the day. Jellyfisher's voting pattern is the MOST indicative of a wolf/sith right now and that is my opinion. I am not a seer.

Pokechamp and toxictaipan are on my list for the same reason. If you count the night 2 tie vote (which I do), they voted 4/5 people off, casting their vote in first half of voters who did. It just seems to me that either these people are bandwagoning against the first person that receives 2 votes every day, or they are wolves and still doing this anyways. That is my proof. It certainly isn't proof. Its just my perspective on game strategy and my best leads so far. Oh, I also wouldn't mind targeting King Piplup. More on that later.

Not like anyone is going to care about this at all...
Haha well, after I made that post I realized italicizing anything doesn't real help in a quote since it's that way anyway... See bold for what I meant to speak of. I am eager to here this...

Great Analysis by SS7.
 
I think that at this point, AAM has some explaining to do, and had better have a pretty good set of explanations, as the points raised both by cardz and piplup are quite valid.

Cardz, you can add cynthia to that list. We're almost positive that she's in the game now.
 
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I didn't connect that before, thanks for the link!

@ Cardz: Glad to have you posting! I find the list to be accurate, except for the part about the 4 Legged Pokemon. You say the effect it has is it prevents the target from posting/voting, yet SS7 was attacked and has been able to post.
 
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