About Adam and Eve...

[ilikegengar]

It's kind of hard to have full faith when you're an altogether good person, and yet your prayers are not and have not been answered, and people who are "less faithful" than yourself get so much further ahead than you.
Can anyone answer any of the above?
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MOP, someone once told me God answers all prayers with 3 responses:
1. Yes!
2. Not now
3. I have something better in mind.

Sylvia Browne, the psychic, says we choose the life we live before we're born; that the reason we're here is to love. She has an interesting take on life, God etc.

I think humans are hard-wired for God or some supreme being. Every culture seems to have some form of religion, god, or thoughts on a higher being.

This is an interesting thread. I wish I had more answers too.

May you have many blessings,
Nanette

 

[Prime]

Basically, if you disbelieve in God you are incapable of doing any good, and you are a worthless human being.

Don't forget that the person that disbelieves in God is going to **** too. That is what I don't like. Why would any God put people on this earth just to throw 75% (probably much higher according to the bible) in the Lake of Fire? Seems kind of cruel, don't you think?

I've never had a problem with looking around me and figuring that some being put this together. Evolution has never set right in my book, so God makes sense to me. But when the Bible starts to give actions to God that I don't agree any "perfect" being would do, I start to doubt the Bible all together. I enjoy the Bible on the instance of reading it and getting stuff out of the stories, but I can't get myself to believe in "the word".

Let's not even mention the whole idea that I need to communicate to God but God will never say anything back to me.

 

[DarthPika]

Don't forget that the person that disbelieves in God is going to **** too. That is what I don't like. Why would any God put people on this earth just to throw 75% (probably much higher according to the bible) in the Lake of Fire? Seems kind of cruel, don't you think?

I've never had a problem with looking around me and figuring that some being put this together. Evolution has never set right in my book, so God makes sense to me. But when the Bible starts to give actions to God that I don't agree any "perfect" being would do, I start to doubt the Bible all together. I enjoy the Bible on the instance of reading it and getting stuff out of the stories, but I can't get myself to believe in "the word".

Let's not even mention the whole idea that I need to communicate to God but God will never say anything back to me.

You do realize that a LOT of the stories in the bible are just that? Think about it for a second. Way back when Noah was around and God flooded the earth, what did they think the earth was back then? FLAT!!! Now if every thing they could see was flooded then they probably would think that the entire earth had flooded. Theres another part in the Bible where it says somthing like "God stoped the Son IN ITS PATH AROUND the earth. Now we all know that is wrong, now does that make the rest of it wrong? No, it simply means that you can't use the Bible as a scince book. As for Adam and Evee, that was probably just a story to explain where we came from.

And for anyone who hasn't thought of this, God works through people and nature. Even back in the old testiment he worked his mirricles (bad spelling) through natrue. He didn't just cause stuff to happen, he made stuff happen that works with the laws and phisics of this world. The history had an execelent show on how the 10 plauges of Egypt happend, and how the jews left Egypt.

 

[Water Pokemon Master]

Don't forget that the person that disbelieves in God is going to **** too. That is what I don't like. Why would any God put people on this earth just to throw 75% (probably much higher according to the bible) in the Lake of Fire? Seems kind of cruel, don't you think?

It also seems stupid to not take advantage of the opportunities you have in life. That's even crueler. You have choices, and you are told what you should do. If you don't do it in the 70-80 years you are here, whose fault is it? It's not like God has doomed us all to **** - we can easily follow him through Jesus and be fine. It's just that most people don't want to do their own research to find the truth for themselves, and that's why most people will probably go to **** (myself included, for now).

Geez, so much of all of this is over Heaven and ****. What about living a good life?

 

[DarthPika]

It also seems stupid to not take advantage of the opportunities you have in life. That's even crueler. You have choices, and you are told what you should do. If you don't do it in the 70-80 years you are here, whose fault is it? It's not like God has doomed us all to **** - we can easily follow him through Jesus and be fine. It's just that most people don't want to do their own research to find the truth for themselves, and that's why most people will probably go to **** (myself included, for now).

Geez, so much of all of this is over Heaven and ****. What about living a good life?

Live a good life and you will probably go to Heaven.

 

[Water Pokemon Master]

That's not what I meant. I mean, Christianity, from what I have come to learn, isn't all about just going to Heaven and living your life to go there. It also teaches you to be a good person and to live a good life. While the ultimate goal is certainly to be with God, the Bible also teaches us to be good and have morality.

This is rather arrogant, but I think because of being raised in a Christian family I am a nicer and better person than many other people I meet in school, especially people who aren't religious in the first place (I'll probably get shot for saying that). I truly do think that Christianity (and other religions, I'm sure) teach you to be a better person, and that overall, religious people are just better. Heh.

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

Geez, so much of all of this is over Heaven and ****. What about living a good life?

What about it? Do you really need an ancient text to tell you how to be a good person? It's not that hard to figure out. Now eternal life, that's tricky.

It also seems stupid to not take advantage of the opportunities you have in life. That's even crueler. You have choices, and you are told what you should do. If you don't do it in the 70-80 years you are here, whose fault is it?

Seems stupid to sin, but apparently God is wiling to forgive that. "God is kind" isn't very compatible with "God is just."

It's not like God has doomed us all to **** - we can easily follow him through Jesus and be fine. It's just that most people don't want to do their own research to find the truth for themselves, and that's why most people will probably go to **** (myself included, for now).

And here's the truth through research, again. Like if you really read up on it, it'll become so obvious that Christianity is unquestionably right. Yeah, right.

 

[Water Pokemon Master]

No one has ever said that Christianity is unquestionable. Everything is questionable, Christianity included.

The best question is: What's the most true?

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

Christianity, apparently. Now explain to me why that's the case.

And again, truth is really not subjective, yet before you said that the answer someone reaches based on research depends on that person. So what gives?

 

[Prime]

It also seems stupid to not take advantage of the opportunities you have in life. That's even crueler. You have choices, and you are told what you should do. If you don't do it in the 70-80 years you are here, whose fault is it? It's not like God has doomed us all to **** - we can easily follow him through Jesus and be fine. It's just that most people don't want to do their own research to find the truth for themselves, and that's why most people will probably go to **** (myself included, for now).

Geez, so much of all of this is over Heaven and ****. What about living a good life?

I am told what I should do? By what? A book? What about the countless other books (of religion) that tell me to do something different? How am I to know which one is true? What outside the book tells me that the book is truth?

Where do I do my own research about God in Christianity, that doesn't involve the Bible?

That is all Christianity is. A book. Christians can only defend the book by referencing...the book.

What if the book is a lie?

 

[DarthPika]

I am told what I should do? By what? A book? What about the countless other books (of religion) that tell me to do something different? How am I to know which one is true? What outside the book tells me that the book is truth?

Where do I do my own research about God in Christianity, that doesn't involve the Bible?

That is all Christianity is. A book. Christians can only defend the book by referencing...the book.

What if the book is a lie?

There are other accounts for things that are in the Bible.

 

[ryanvergel]

There are other accounts for things that are in the Bible.

For every shred of evidence supporting the Bible you can find a shred of evidence for any other religion.

 

[Brawler]

Okay. I want to clear up some of the **** that's on here(MY OPINION.)

The world started, as scientists claim, with a "Big Bang" and bacteria evolving.
I say, too far out.

Why not trust God? We cannot be sure if it was him that created the earth,
but we can have FAITH.

I'm 11, but I say prayers every day, and I trust God with everything I do.
I know I sin, but some day I'll go to Heaven.

You could be a Mass Murderer, and go to Heaven.
Why? Let God into your life.

I kmow it's hard, but you just have to believe.

 

[master of puppets]

Thats the $64,000 question question, isn't it?
"What if the books is a lie."
Indeed...
What if the book is a lie?
What point is there to worship, praying, and faith towards it? Wouldn't that mean that everyone who follows it (myself included) are wasting their time with the above things?
Instead of wasting our time doing such things we could have all been taking matters in to our own hands, rather than wait, hope, and pray for help with such problems.

What if the book is a lie...

(on a side note)
Thank you for that advice(ish), ilikegengar.

 

[Brawler]

Like I said, have FAITH.
It's hard, but it will pay off for an eternity of...incredibly happy words we can't imagine.
Belive now, feel incredible forever.

 

[master of puppets]

Somewhat off topic question.
Why would God create us at all in the first place?
He is God, why would he need/want any of us?
What purpose do we, or would we serve?

 

[V_For_Vendetta]

Like I said, have FAITH.
It's hard, but it will pay off for an eternity of...incredibly happy words we can't imagine.
Belive now, feel incredible forever.

Assuming your religion is correct.
What is the Greeks were right, worshiping God would then earn me an eternity in the River of Styx, whereas not believing in anything will most likely allow me to get off much easier (since i didn't disrespect the Gods by worshiping a false one).

 

[pkmnvet]

Assuming your religion is correct.
What is the Greeks were right, worshiping God would then earn me an eternity in the River of Styx, whereas not believing in anything will most likely allow me to get off much easier (since i didn't disrespect the Gods by worshiping a false one).

It don't work that way. You either believe or you don't...end of story.

 

[Prime]

Like I said, have FAITH.
It's hard, but it will pay off for an eternity of...incredibly happy words we can't imagine.
Belive now, feel incredible forever.

If someone believes in Jesus and God because of it's end result, it doesn't sound much like Faith. It sounds more like Fear that if they don't believe in Jesus and God that you won't get that end result.

Not speaking personally of you Brawler, or anyone...jmho

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

Indeed. Belief is not an active process; it is a passive state of mind. When you are convinced of something, you believe it. When you're not, you don't. You can't directly force it one way or the other.