ChatotG/AbsolG combo... (fun disruption)
It's fun. But, it is an futile combo. Why do we care WHICH 3 of 4 cards go to the loss zone enough to clutter the deck with Chatot Gs? Taking out the Chatot spot would give us space for something this deck desperately needs... AN ATTACKING machine!
-- I don't like this path because it's almost disrespectful to your time to build something that will not win matches. Disruption + no firepower = delayed loss.
I can see this not working out, sure you mill out their deck, maybe hitting some vital cards, but you will lose if they manage to top deck something. I guess this deck
could work....If you're feeling lucky, well are ya? Punk? :lol:
PROS/CONS:
+ Milling Focus
+ Fast
+ Higher chance of lost zoning good cards
- No main attacker
- No late game
Absol G / Luxray G (gust , turn and disrupt)
This seems like HALF of a concept. I think alot of good players look at this combo and think "ok... then what?"
The idea of turning and lost zoning the oppoents cards are very nice (VERY NICE). I do think this is worth exploration.
However, if the OPPOENENT has time to build a BIG ATTACKER, we're absolutly gonna get smashed.
--- Lucario GL helps you hit hard against water and .. well... Gengar... but... what about big threats who free retreat like Beedrill and Flygon? Remember Doom Desire vs. Warp point vs. Free retreat? I'd ALMOST entertain the thought of Articuno + Doom News at least while paralyzed, it's a warp or die situation (we have four scoops afterall...)
We've all seen how diruptive Luxray can be, paired with Infernape. However, the relation between the those two does not transfer over here. Infernape offered a powerful, fast, and reliable attacking source. However, Absol maxes out at 100(At the cost of 4 SP.Dark...) Flygon will give this one problems(Resist Luxray, free retreat), but if played right/worked on, this seems it could a potentially powerful contender.
PROS/CONS:
+ Fast
+ Very disruptive
+ Good strategy
- Weak Late-game
- Has issues with current meta threats
Palkia G X / Absol G X / Mesprit LA -- New wicked Legos deck?
WHOA! Lost zone the field AND lost zone the deck. Palkia can be main attacker while Absol G X can doom news the big sluggers (if large retreat)
Palkia, also, keep your own bench free for other sneaky critters like Mesprit and Giratina LvX!
In fact, why not get Giratina X in on the LOST ZONE THEME here? Three ways to lost zone... maybe a lucians?
I think this is a pretty solid idea, Palkia Lock(Legos) has already proven itself to be this formats most disruptive deck(IMO), and is backed by a solid attacker. Absol could easily be teched into said deck and the engine is already focused on reusing/scooping cards off the field, it would just be a different idea. This deck does have it's issues as some lists are too teched out and often end up cluttering the bench, even with Lost Cyclone(Azelf MT comes to mind).
Also, I believe Giratina should not be included in this as you'd need to run 3 types of enery then, and the list is already quite packed(What SP deck isn't?). Also, it may seem like a nice idea, but what about your bench? You'll have something similar to Palka G(Lv. X), Absol G, Absol G, Dialga G Lv. X on your bench as you do want to keep the Absol chain going early on(Keep one on the bench at all times, lets you turn the active and level up the bench). Giratina is a nice idea, but I don't see it working
PROS/CONS:
+ Solid attacker
+ Good early AND late game
+ VERY disruptive
+ Can handle current meta fairly well
- A bit slower than most SP decks
- Without Azelf MT, LuxApe match up is considerably worse
Absol G / Honchcrow G / Weaville G / Crobat g - DARK SP RUSH
This could be very fast and effective. Low HP could really make you vulnerable, but it's not so dependend upon powers and makes use of all things SP (support card wise). Drop a Snowpoint and go after every Baltoy that hits the table!.
Spray those Bright Looks and Setups! Marleys for Poketurn/PowerSprays maybe?
The one of the only reason I like this deck is it reminds me a bit of Haymaker, other then that I can't see it working that well. Sure you could Zerg rush the opponent, but what happens when they get that Flygon up and start OHKOing all your Pokemon left and right? It seems insanely fast, but what does that say about it's late game? The only way I can see this winning is if you get a great start and can start swinging with Weavile G/Absol G for 60-90 every turn T2, even then it's shaky if your opponent is smart
PROS/CON:
+ Insanely fast
+ Fast/Constant Damage
+ Cheap attackers
+ Lots of support
+ Not power dependant
- Low HP
- Possibly horrible late game
Absol G / Gyrarados SF/ Absol SW - "Smash and Grab" (just made that up!)
I may actually try this one. It just seems very simple and effective. My nats deck used Gyrarados/Palka G X, but Absol disruption plus Absol G Xs lost zone disruption may be enough to get Gyrarados up and running without fear of instant retaliation.
This goes along with my first paragraph, it's mill, then what? I do realize Gyarados can be a big threat, but with Luxray running around(Definitely not leaving anytime soon...) How does Gyarados handle it? I'm not quite sure how this deck would work so I'm going to opt out of the Pros/Cons for this one.
I had another idea, has anyone considered this with one of the partners of Luxray? Infernape 4 or Blaziken FB? Both are good attackers, and can prove fairly disruptive. Both also come with free retreat(Not sure about Blaziken).
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I definately like the Palkia/Mespirit/Absol strat. But something no one has mentioned yet is Dialga G/ Absol G. I dubbed it "Diablos" and it focuses on sending just your opponents energy to the lost zone. This is done via remove lost as your main attack and using chatot/ absol to eliminate energies from the deck. With many decks being constructed with 10-14 energy now, think how devastating losing 6-7 would be. Dialga provides the muscle and Absol provides the quick strikes/ disruption.
I know many people don't like Flint's but I could see playing 1-2 in this deck so that you can instanlty use doom news on back to back turns. It also powers up Dialga faster.
Oh no....That sounds so evil....I'm going to be proxying up the Palkia and the Dark Swarm one later tonight, I'll give this one a shot too
