ABSOL G: "Community SecretDeck" #1

[Mach]

Palkia G X / Absol G X / Mesprit LA -- New wicked Legos deck?

WHOA! Lost zone the field AND lost zone the deck. Palkia can be main attacker while Absol G X can doom news the big sluggers (if large retreat)
Palkia, also, keep your own bench free for other sneaky critters like Mesprit and Giratina LvX!
In fact, why not get Giratina X in on the LOST ZONE THEME here? Three ways to lost zone... maybe a lucians?

Absol G / Honchcrow G / Weaville G / Crobat g - DARK SP RUSH
This could be very fast and effective. Low HP could really make you vulnerable, but it's not so dependend upon powers and makes use of all things SP (support card wise). Drop a Snowpoint and go after every Baltoy that hits the table!.
Spray those Bright Looks and Setups! Marleys for Poketurn/PowerSprays maybe?

I'm thinkin we should focus on one of these two. Preferably the second, since I think the first would be more Palkia than Absol eventually.

 

[i like burdn of a day]

I personally like Absol G w/ Luxray GL. you can bright look your opponent's claydol, do either 60 or 70 to it, then they'll probably switch or warp point it, which most decks only use 1 or 2 of, which means they'll be one less switch/warp for them to use when you doom them with absol. not to mention, they both deal 60 for 1 energy of thier type and an energy gain. and Absol G has real disruption potential with its dark burial, which can be done mutliple times as can Bright look can be with the use of Poketurn. heres what i think one of these lists should look like.

3-1 Absol G lvX
2-1 Luxray GL lvX
1-1 Claydol
2-1 Uxie lvX
1 Azelf
1 Chatot G
2 Crobat G
1 Unown G
1 Skuntank G 1 Toxi G or 1-1 Dialga G lvX

19 Pokemon

4 Cyrus
1 Bebe
4 Rosy
4 Energy Gain
4 Poke Turn
4 Power Spray
1 Snow Point
1 Galactic's HQ
1 Pokemon Contest Hall
1 Aaron's Collection
1 Warp point
1 Night maintenance
1 Premier ball
1 Luxury Ball

29 T/S/S

2 Special Dark
2 Basic Dark
3 Lightning
2 Psychic/3basic metal (psy if you play toxitank metal if you play Dialga G)
2-3 SP Energy

12 Energy

this list looks like it would do what its supposed to, anybody else like Luxray-Absol?

 

[waynegg]

I definately like the Palkia/Mespirit/Absol strat. But something no one has mentioned yet is Dialga G/ Absol G. I dubbed it "Diablos" and it focuses on sending just your opponents energy to the lost zone. This is done via remove lost as your main attack and using chatot/ absol to eliminate energies from the deck. With many decks being constructed with 10-14 energy now, think how devastating losing 6-7 would be. Dialga provides the muscle and Absol provides the quick strikes/ disruption.

I know many people don't like Flint's but I could see playing 1-2 in this deck so that you can instanlty use doom news on back to back turns. It also powers up Dialga faster.

actually- i did offer up the Dialga G. it also prevents Shiftry players from blocking your flipping

 

[king of meta]

what about gengar/absol g/ garnchomp??

 

[Brawler]

I think the Dark rush Absol sounds good. Dusknoir FB is an excellent choice because with Dark Slugger, you can discard an SP for more damage.

 

[dobsonr]

Oh sorry Waynegg I must have glazed over your mention of Dialga G. You make an excellent point about blocking Shiftry to protect your flips! I wasn't even thinking about Shiftry as a threat, though he could turn out to be one. I just think the added disruption of body locking/ early trainer locking will really help boost the deck even more.

Well RA, being that this is your thread I think you should pick one of the deck ideas and let everyone then actively work toward making it the best it can be, regardless of if it is the best of the options. It seems we are reaching the next level of this project.

 

[waynegg]

i agree. which way are we going?

 

[Mach]

I personally vote for the Dark SP Rush and Diablos ideas more than the others. Much clearer, IMO.

 

[MidnyteXTC]

Well, it looks like we're going to go Zerg Rush(What I'm gonna call it, <3 Zerg) as it seems to be the most popular. I'm gonna try my hand at a list, let me know what you guys think

Pokemon: 20
3-1 Absol G Lv. X
3 Weavile G
2 Honchkrow G
1 Dusknoir FB
1 Lucario GL
2 Crobat G
1 Toxicroak G Promo
1-1 Claydol
1 Uxie
1 Azelf
2 Unown G

T/St/Su: 30
4 Roseanne's
4 Cyrus
1 Bebe's
3 SP Radar
4 Poke Trun
4 Energy Gain
3 Super Scoop Up
1 Night Maintenance
1 Luxury Ball
2 Warp Point
1 VS Seeker
2 Premier Ball

Energy: 10
4 SP. Dark
2 Dark
2 SP Rainbow
2 Psychic

I chose not to use Power Spray as this deck seems to want to be more agro and it comes out swinging on T2 for at least 50. There are a few bad starts, but I believe any Dark SP is a good start, Ideally Weavile or Absol G.

I wrote the list in like 15 minutes so it's a little rough. Anyways, what do you guys think?

 

[Darkwater]

Anyone dig the Absol G / Flygon combo?

 

[Mach]

Well, it looks like we're going to go Zerg Rush(What I'm gonna call it, <3 Zerg) as it seems to be the most popular. I'm gonna try my hand at a list, let me know what you guys think

Pokemon: 20
3-1 Absol G Lv. X
3 Weavile G
2 Honchkrow G
1 Dusknoir FB
1 Lucario GL
2 Crobat G
1 Toxicroak G Promo
1-1 Claydol
1 Uxie
1 Azelf
2 Unown G

T/St/Su: 30
4 Roseanne's
4 Cyrus
1 Bebe's
3 SP Radar
4 Poke Trun
4 Energy Gain
3 Super Scoop Up
1 Night Maintenance
1 Luxury Ball
2 Warp Point
1 VS Seeker
2 Premier Ball

Energy: 10
4 SP. Dark
2 Dark
2 SP Rainbow
2 Psychic

I chose not to use Power Spray as this deck seems to want to be more agro and it comes out swinging on T2 for at least 50. There are a few bad starts, but I believe any Dark SP is a good start, Ideally Weavile or Absol G.

I wrote the list in like 15 minutes so it's a little rough. Anyways, what do you guys think?

I'm going to test something similar to this list at league tonight and get back to you later.

 

[MidnyteXTC]

Anyone dig the Absol G / Flygon combo?

I personally think it's pretty flawed for several reasons:

-You mill, okay then what? Flygon only gets it's hitting power from evolutions, Absol can't evolve if it wanted to
-Flygon already requires a TON of support(Weavile, Claydol, etc)
-No room for the SP Engine, therefore no way to keep Absol going
-Flygon(From my experience) is pretty inconsistent

Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

I'm going to test something similar to this list at league tonight and get back to you later.

Alright, I'm going ot test this on Sunday too, at my league

 

[Mach]

I'm leaving for league right now, and as of right now, this is the deck that I am using:

2-2 Absol G LV. X
3 Weavile G
2 Honchkrow G
2 Crobat G
1-1 Claydol
1 Uxie
1 Azelf
1 Lucario GL
1 Dusknoir FB
2 Unown G

1 Luxury Ball
1 Night Maintenance
1 Premier Ball
1 Pokemon Rescue
2 Warp Point
2 Super Scoop Up
1 Power Spray
2 SP Radar
4 Energy Gain
4 Poketurn

1 Bebe's Search
2 Volkner's Philosophy
3 Roseanne's Research
4 Cyrus's Conspiracy

3 Basic Dark
1 Psychic
4 Special Dark
4 SP Energy

I'll have my laptop with me, and there's Wi-fi there, so I'll be able to give live updates as to how the deck is currently doing.

 

[MidnyteXTC]

Have fun and good luck

 

[Mach]

Played GeChamp first, and lost 2-0. Even with all the discarding going on, Dusknoir takes too long to charge since it's a hard choice to discard an SP.

The lone Power Spray is working so far as far as mind games go. If I search it out early enough, my opponent plays around it the entire game, thinking I have more.

Found myself alternating between attacking with Absol G and Weavile G. Not sure if this is good or bad, yet, but damage was lacking somewhat.

On the plus side, Gengar is a very good matchup, since once Lucario GL hits the field, you can OHKO them one after another.

I did find myself wishing for Bronzong G, though, to move the Energy as I poketurned Absols.

 

[MidnyteXTC]

Played GeChamp first, and lost 2-0. Even with all the discarding going on, Dusknoir takes too long to charge since it's a hard choice to discard an SP.

The lone Power Spray is working so far as far as mind games go. If I search it out early enough, my opponent plays around it the entire game, thinking I have more.

Found myself alternating between attacking with Absol G and Weavile G. Not sure if this is good or bad, yet, but damage was lacking somewhat.

On the plus side, Gengar is a very good matchup, since once Lucario GL hits the field, you can OHKO them one after another.

I did find myself wishing for Bronzong G, though, to move the Energy as I poketurned Absols.

Hmm, figured Machamp would be a tough matchup, after all it does have wekaness AND gets around the resistance of Honchkrow and Crobat G...Maybe a Toxitank tech? I figured with Dusknoir you could discard an Absol, Weavile, and maybe a Honchkrow. Then you'd start discarding techs as you find out what you don't need, but I guess that's wishful thinking. I'll try and see if I can find a suitable replacement, as I suggested earlier, maybe Toxitank? but then you do need stadiums....

That one spray sounds interesting, I may try that instead of completely forgoing it

I think alternating is fine as both have minimal retreat, if any, and also are strong attackers. I figure attacking with straight Absol would lead to a lot of stuff in the discard, stripping you of resources pretty fast. As for adding more damage, I think Weavile has potential for more, but we'd have to add a 1-1 Darkrai tech, which I'm not sure how that would make the rest of the deck work.

Gengar match up being great is awesome to hear, beating out one of the most popular decks in the meta is always a plus

Hmm, makes sense to do Bronzong, if it works in Dialga, it should work here!

How fast is it setting up? Is it consistent? What's the late-game like? What would you consider fixing/adding to make it more streamlined?

 

[Mach]

Starting a new match, this time against a Manectric PL/SP Varient. Swapped Dusknoir FB with Drifblim FB and removed one Honchkrow G for a Bronzong G.

EDIT: Drifblim FB w/E-gain and a Crobat drop to donk Uxie. Then Honchkrow/Crobat donked Electrike. Double donk FTW.

EDIT2: To answer your questions, it is, in fact normally doing about 50+ by T2, which makes a fast deck in my book. It's also consistent enough so that I'm not in fear of horri-bad starts.

I'm starting another match right now, against Tyranitar. I'm thinking to go full aggro early on in this matchup.

 

[MidnyteXTC]

Starting a new match, this time against a Manectric PL/SP Varient. Swapped Dusknoir FB with Drifblim FB and removed one Honchkrow G for a Bronzong G.

EDIT: Drifblim FB w/E-gain and a Crobat drop to donk Uxie. Then Honchkrow/Crobat donked Electrike. Double donk FTW.

EDIT2: To answer your questions, it is, in fact normally doing about 50+ by T2, which makes a fast deck in my book. It's also consistent enough so that I'm not in fear of horri-bad starts.

I'm starting another match right now, against Tyranitar. I'm thinking to go full aggro early on in this matchup.

Haha, glad youredits are working out for you, a little donking is never bad. So Driftblim is the better play over Dusknoir? Hmmm...Now that I think about it, Drifblim is like a free Shadow Room on the pixies BUT with straight damage(Unown G eat your heart out :lol,it does 2-hit Crobat Gs/Everything with 80/90HP with a Bat drop, and could stop Plox from setting up by KOing Kirlias and Ralts....Interesting

Great to hear it's consistent and indeed hitting hard and fast, that's the way we like it

Aggro is never a bad approach either, how have you been playing it if not full aggro? I mean, if it hits for 50 on half-steam, then we must be doing something right

EDIT: Added Translation

Driflblim FB LV.50 - Psychic - HP80
Basic Pokemon (SP)

Poke-Body: Pump Up
If your opponent has 3 or fewer Prize cards remaining, this Pokemon’s HP is increased by 40.

[P][C][C] Shadow Ball: Does 40 damage to 1 of your opponent’s Benched Pokemon. Apply Weakness and Resistance.

Weakness: Darkness (x2)
Resistance: Colorless (-20)
Retreat Cost: 2
Set Number: 50

 

[Mach]

Well, yeah, I normally go aggro, anyway. But normally, it isn't setting up as much damage as I can immediately, it's more like I'll do this much this turn, and wait to see how much I need next turn. This time, I laid it all out immediately to try and kill the Larvitars/Pupitars before they got a chance to evolve further.

I also won, btw. Drifblim loves those pixies. It also enjoyed the teched AlakazamMT.

As for right now, I spy with my little eye, someone using another Absol, so I figure I'll see if they are up for a mirror.

EDIT: So they're using Absol/Flygon after seeing someone on here talking about it. I'm pretty comfortable in this, since I'll have a major speed and consistency advantage.

 

[MidnyteXTC]

Nice, I'd probably play full aggro all the time just cause I like big numbers

Alright, I'm going to play Drifblim in my list, you've convinced me as there are too many psychic-weak techs running around right now

Haha, alright, let us know how it plays out. Also, can you try and find a Palkia/LuxApe, I'm interested in seeing that matchup

EDIT:

So I'm guessing so far the deck's record is

3/4/5/ - 2?