Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Blissey Annoying You? The best techs to bring it down...

dark celebi said:
Yeah you laugh... but you are playing child group off course people there does not know how toi handle aggro deck...

gallade stops it cold magmortar, feraligatr etc etc i could go on....

Decks that are "invincible" in 11-14 group can very easely be pure garbage when meeting real competition
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Now, have you ever had real competition?

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i have been national champion and Ive played worlds on more than one occation so yes i know what real competition is..

My point is not that bliss is a bad card it isnt but merely that any good decks beats it on a regular basis and therefore doesnt need to make weird techs to beat it..

Aggro decks usually are much better in weaker groups were people for some reason cant cope it. It minimizes odds for a bad start and is very easy to play. Weaker players usally cant figth their way back when getting behind and aggro decks like blissey can therefore earn alot of cheap wins in a weak metagame.

When you meet stronger decks aggro decks like bliss is still accepteble but not in any way dominering as people play better. and dont panic or misplay just becaurse they get 1 or 2 prizes behind. their decks is also better and prepared to handle the starting rush. if the starting rush isnt a blodbath then bliss is pretty much dead against most setup decks. when blaziken (or the like) begin pumping magmotars or anything else for that matter bliss simply does not have the power to take the game home

I ask for good players to discus the card seriusly not weak players saying :"i cant beat it so it should be banned" or laughing when other players tells them that just becaurse small children cant beat it doesnt mean that its perfekt.
 
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dude, this thread was started during Fall BRs where Blissey was sweeping.. now that there are legitimate decks out there that can beat it, the thread was dead... until you bumped it, good job
 
Blissey won like 80% of all BRs so shut up.. =/ (i think it was less, just trying to make you get the picture)

And since when, was Blissey not aggro itself??

Oh and by the way, some people from MY age group, and from MY country, are good enough to both get ranking invite, then make T16 at worlds, and make it through the grinder, and then make T16.

And how did YOU place at worlds, and in which country do you live in?
 
Ardoptres, cool it down a little. This topic isn't about how well someone did at Worlds, it's about Blissey counters.
 
Ardoptres said:
Blissey won like 80% of all BRs so shut up.. =/ (i think it was less, just trying to make you get the picture)

And since when, was Blissey not aggro itself??

Oh and by the way, some people from MY age group, and from MY country, are good enough to both get ranking invite, then make T16 at worlds, and make it through the grinder, and then make T16.

And how did YOU place at worlds, and in which country do you live in?
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lol try it in america
 
Ardoptres said:
Blissey won like 80% of all BRs so shut up.. =/ (i think it was less, just trying to make you get the picture)

And since when, was Blissey not aggro itself??

Oh and by the way, some people from MY age group, and from MY country, are good enough to both get ranking invite, then make T16 at worlds, and make it through the grinder, and then make T16.

And how did YOU place at worlds, and in which country do you live in?
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Ardoptres..... If you see above even Americans makes fun of that comment... I know what deks you figth its decks like absol magmortar am i rigth? I know what people you are talking about. From my group its the 2 Steffens.

What you need to understand is that when you only fight your own country (and its very rare that you dont) People having a high ranking ONLY shows that they are a lot better than the OTHER players in their group in that country.. Which may aswell shows that the average lv is low. This of course is the case in Denmark. While the -10 and 15+ have some good players (Steffen From being the best) The 10-14 group have been pretty weak since Morten Gundesen (last years national champ) moved up.
I am therefore totally rigth when I say that the reason Bliss dominating is becaurse the average player in your group is kind of weak which leads to the point ive mentioned before that you surely have read and that i therefore wont repeat.

You may beleive youre rigth and i may not be able to change that beleive nonetheless im rigth. Bliss is NOT the top deck. The reason that you are winning with it is a generally weak field.

By the way bliss IS an Aggro deck what you would have understood if you had taken your time reading what I said instead of raging insulting and bragging with OTHERS victories.

We will see your results when you move up and get some real opponents, then we can talk.
 
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dark celebi said:
Ardoptres..... If you see above even Americans makes fun of that comment... I know what deks you figth its decks like absol magmortar am i rigth? I know what people you are talking about. From my group its the 2 Steffens.

So I guess you're from Denmark too? (reading your last sentence)

I played the deck once (Magsol), so it's not the decks that i usually 'fight'.
Except for Absol not being popular here in DK, we almost have the same metagame as the US. (Gardelade for instance)

What you need to understand is that when you only fight your own country (and its very rare that you dont) People having a high ranking ONLY shows that they are a lot better than the OTHER players in their group in that country.. Which may aswell shows that the average lv is low.

I understand you say 'may'. but saying that the fact that i win (I don't even have a high rating/ranking +_+), is that the level is low, is not true.
Your basically saying: High ranking = low level. ...NOT true.

This of course is the case in Denmark. While the -10 and 15+ have some good players (Steffen From being the best)...

So -10 and 15+ are the only age groups with real competition? Pleaaaase.
The only thing I can say to that is, that i beat Jacob Andersen (I assume you know him) constantly (did he win nats 2 or 3 times?), and i also have no problem with beating either of the Steffens.
I'm also good enough to have several national champions, asking me about my opinions about everything, does that also mean i'm not that good?

...The 10-14 group have been pretty weak since Morten Gundesen (last years national champ) moved up.

LOLOLZzz. I guess I didn't play in his 'glory period' or something, because other than winning nats and a spring BR, he didn't win anything last season..
And don't make me remind you of, that other people than him has won nats.. Andreas Stavnsberg for example, which I've beaten 4/4 times this season.
Also, how did Morten do at Worlds? Lets just say it was NOT good, though, Tais and Peter did good, and they have not moved up..
I've played Morten twice in tournies, beat him once, he beat me once.

I am therefore totally rigth when I say that the reason Bliss dominating is becaurse the average player in your group is kind of weak which leads to the point ive mentioned before that you surely have read and that i therefore wont repeat.

Then please exlpain me, how can it be that Blissey won almost every BR in DK in MASTERS?

You may beleive youre rigth and i may not be able to change that beleive nonetheless im rigth. Bliss is NOT the top deck. The reason that you are winning with it is a generally weak field.

I haven't ever said that Blissey is THE deck, but i know it's good, and you know it too, you just don't want to say it.

By the way bliss IS an Aggro deck what you would have understood if you had taken your time reading what I said instead of raging insulting and bragging with OTHERS victories.

I reread, and i see that i misunderstood, sorry for that.
I don't recall either insulting or bragging, though..
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EDIT: Also note this.

PS: Gallade, Gatr and Magmortar doesn't 'stop it cold'.
 
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Ill answer your questions in order:

1)If you meet a deck in the finals then thats one of the decks you figth

2) you again misread.... I merely point out that if one are better than the others that person will get a good ranking as he rarely meets people from other countries if the other players are weak he does not have to be strong.

3) Ooooooh so you beat a 11 yeah old who just moved up you are so cool..... Jacob is good for his age but he just moved group you cant expect him keep winning in a group hes not used to. Ps :I have very much respect for jacobs results but that does not alter my point

4) Morten won 2 National champs of the last 3 years more than you ever will be able to... So if winning nationals doesnt make you a strong member of the group i dont know what you use to compare. Ever heard of testing decks? you know so you can win national? Its all about prioreties. that was what he used the BR's to and he won nat just the same....

I think you should should be ashamed of such a comment. ask steffen or lars or steffens or michael or other persons you may consider good theyll all answer that when Morten played 11-14 he was THE best in hís group. the results speaks for itself . and for the record. the year he didnt win nat he raged EVERY single CC and SC possible.

I think you should apolegy on this one..

So you can beat both the Steffens np? if you beat the second best in the world just like that i wonder why a havent seen all those national champ titles from you? One thing is to beat a person playing weird decks for fun something else is to meet him in a tournament.

Well if others asks you for advice a gues youll have to be good..... LOL .....

5) Bliss won becaurse the good players (Lars and Steffen Eriksen) played it. they are by far better than the others in the battle roads (not counting Steffen from as he got his ticket and doesnt need to figth for ranking). The PLAYERS made the ´difference not that deck Besides Neither of the gundesens were playing.

6)I said blissey is a good card it is somwhere in this tread it just said that other decks are better

7) For the bragging with others victories ill just quote:

Oh and by the way, some people from MY age group, and from MY country, are good enough to both get ranking invite, then make T16 at worlds, and make it through the grinder, and then make T16.

And how did YOU place at worlds, and in which country do you live in?
From the text I see that those someone are not you? thats so sad .... maybe its becourse you didnt beat Morten whos 2 national champs you have not seen ....

And yes they do ... but of course it needs not to be NOOBS playing them
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dark celebi said:
Ill answer your questions in order:

1)If you meet a deck in the finals then thats one of the decks you figth

I thought you meant in general

2) you again misread.... I merely point out that if one are better than the others that person will get a good ranking as he rarely meets people from other countries if the other players are weak he does not have to be strong.

Ugh, I'm not sure I understand this. Anyways, so if you don't fight people from other countries, you don't have to be 'strong' to win?

3) Ooooooh so you beat a 11 yeah old who just moved up you are so cool..... Jacob is good for his age but he just moved group you cant expect him keep winning in a group hes not used to. Ps :I have very much respect for jacobs results but that does not alter my point

It was just a response to the 'only -10 and 15+ has good players'

4) Morten won 2 National champs of the last 3 years more than you ever will be able to... So if winning nationals doesnt make you a strong member of the group i dont know what you use to compare. Ever heard of testing decks? you know so you can win national? Its all about prioreties. that was what he used the BR's to and he won nat just the same....

I wasn't aware of the first win.
Don't get me wrong. I sure have respect for Morten, I KNOW he is good. I play with him every thursday.
But saying that SR is an easy age group, just because Morten moved up, is wrong
Strong member of the group? As far as I understand, in your eyes, Morten was the only member of 'the strong group'.

I think you should should be ashamed of such a comment. ask steffen or lars or steffens or michael or other persons you may consider good theyll all answer that when Morten played 11-14 he was THE best in hís group. the results speaks for itself . and for the record. the year he didnt win nat he raged EVERY single CC and SC possible.

sounds good, but but since was a CC win good in your eyes? Correct me, if I'm wrong, but isn't the SR SOOO EAAAAASY to win in, therefore it's not impressive to win one (a CC)?
If Morten was better than everybody, then he didn't have a hard time, right?

So you can beat both the Steffens np? if you beat the second best in the world just like that i wonder why a havent seen all those national champ titles from you? One thing is to beat a person playing weird decks for fun something else is to meet him in a tournament.

I guess i worded it wrong. What i meant was, that I can play against them, and win, fair and square, not that I'm better than them.
Also, could I please learn to play this game first? This is my first year, of actually doing something good.

Well if others asks you for advice a gues youll have to be good..... LOL .....

Yeah, because ANYBODY, who is good enough to win a nats, will take advice from ANYONE, right?

5) Bliss won becaurse the good players (Lars and Steffen Eriksen) played it. they are by far better than the others in the battle roads (not counting Steffen from as he got his ticket and doesnt need to figth for ranking). The PLAYERS made the ´difference not that deck Besides Neither of the gundesens were playing.

So I guess they are playing in an easy age group too = they're not good? At least that's how it is for me..

6)I said blissey is a good card it is somwhere in this tread it just said that others deck are better

OK, I just don't remember it. You said it isn't Top 10 deck, so I wonder which 10 decks are better.

7) For the bragging with others victories ill just quote:

Oh and by the way, some people from MY age group, and from MY country, are good enough to both get ranking invite, then make T16 at worlds, and make it through the grinder, and then make T16.

And how did YOU place at worlds, and in which country do you live in?

That wasn't bragging. You said everyone was bad in my age group, IMO, those are not. (and they were just examples)
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2) you misunderstand what i mean so ill try to spell it out for you

Your ranking is only affected by players from your OWN group from your OWN country (i here correctly assumpe that you dont plsy in other countrires to) Therefore ranking is telling only HOW MUCH better a person are than the people he figths in tournaments . THerefore if they arent very good the porsen with a high ranking arent necesarely either.

4) Morten was the strongest member of the group as said ask any good player therefore him moving up seriusly weakens it

I merely pointed out that that year were morten didnt used the "small" tournaments for testing were the year e didnt win nat. And that he that year won everything else. Which is why i bbeleive these tournaments is for playtestíng (if you want to win nat)

People who wins nats usually listen to other people and then make up there OWN mind

I would like to see the Phrase "top ten deck" i you find it ill find 10 decks

5) yeah youre rigth during BR master were kind of weak too, Steffen From got his ticket and neither of the gundesens were playing that adds up to a group DOMINATED by lars and Steffen

That does not mean they arent good but they dont need to be in order to win those just need to be better than the others ps: They are good

by the way: Ill not discuss wether you were /were not bragging i just look at the text...

Remember i have nothing against you. I dont know wether you are a good player. All im saying is that ´winning CC or BR's does not prove anything especially in that group. When you move up youll see how much harder masters is and youll see that im rigth.

Good luck in Nats :)
 
Youre very rigth ... I am sorry fchangus 2 my emotions run of with me when he posted the STFU and the insulting post... Ardoptres if you for some reason got more to say PM me.
 
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