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Guys, give them a break. You seriously are expecting too much out of a small bunch of people.

WE EXPECT TOO MUCH? We are lifelong devoted fans to this game. We spend hundreds, upon thousands of dollars INDIVIDUALLY in a lifetime, playing this game. Purchasing cards, travel costs, etc. We have a right to expect WAAAAAY more than what we are currently getting.

It's actually insane that you think we should "give them a break"

:nonono:

Furthermore, all we have to do is turn our heads and GLANCE at what other trading card games are doing for their fans. There is no excuse that pokemon can't do what they do better.



And look, I'm not just some psychopath going on a tirade against pokemon. I adore this game. I love it to death. I've played it since I was 9 years old (I'm 22). Pokemon has been more in my life than probably anything else, ever. And I want this game to be what I believe it can be. And for it to be at that level, it needs drastic overhaul of TPCI's entire strategy.

Sheesh, I'd be willing to communicate with fans, FOR FREE, if it meant we got the information well in advance. Or at least an excuse for why the information isn't in front of us, right now.
 
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WE EXPECT TOO MUCH? We are lifelong devoted fans to this game. We spend hundreds, upon thousands of dollars INDIVIDUALLY in a lifetime, playing this game. Purchasing cards, travel costs, etc. We have a right to expect WAAAAAY more than what we are currently getting.

It's actually insane that you think we should "give them a break"

:nonono:

Sorry, yes, as has been commented elsewhere, the "expect too much" is still leftover sentiment from the TCGO mess...

But yes, at this point, I agree with you. We really ought to know CP at this point, among a few other things.
 
My attitude? I'm a disgruntled life-long fan that has finally had enough. We're looking at Battle Roads FOUR DAYS AWAY. And I don't know if the tournament is worth championship points. I don't know what the best finish limit for Battle Roads is going to be.

I don't know a single thing.

To top it all off, I'm also a judge. I'd be willing to judge the events if it means they aren't worth Championship points. But I don't know if I should play in them, to have a chance at worlds 2013.

This is completely unacceptable, to have your entire population of fans in the dark. No company should work like this. It's a joke.




This has been a long time coming, this instance was just enough.

And as for my "directionless complaining", I'm pretty sure it's focused, like a stinking laser beam, right at TPCI.
 
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FWIW, I would like to point out that in no way do I think that the OP brass is doing this because they are incompetent or don't care about the playerbase. I just think their current system overworks the staff and they could probably stand to organize and prioritize better. Obviously I know nothing about how TPCI works, but I just wanted to throw out that I don't think they're doing this intentionally at all. They want the game to be the best it can, they just don't always have the resources to do so, IMO.
 
I don't have sensitivity issues on the internet. .... good job for that, a person could go starkers. :wink:

You can put faith in things if you want, but being dishonest doesn't help faith. Ummm, dishonest? I doubt that's the case. The TRUTH is, POP has consistently SHOWN the inability to manage the game. I'm honestly not one who likes cliche quotes, but one of the very few I truly believe in: actions speak louder than words. It would be different if we had seen horrible support before but its has been getting noticeably better, but its been quite the opposite. Sooo .... what's the dishonesty in that?

When I say "they don't care," I'm not referring to the individuals that actually work for POP, I'm referring to the Corporate engine that is TCPi/Nintendo. Their ultimate goal is to make money. Again, if you deny this, you are being dishonest to yourself. Nope, can't argue with that. Being as their objective is to make money, profits, as in ANY company, come before the "well being of a small hassle in the company." My lack of faith is not in POP, its in TCPi. If you are in the mood to banter back and forth, honestly answer me this: given all of the problems we've seen in POP recently, how much do you honestly think TCPi cares about organized play? Enough. In fact, more than enough. It's obvious. How long do you think you'd last making hard decisions and doing a job that a very vocal portion of the player base finds ways to complain about EVERY YEAR? They must love their jobs, and their responsibilities very much. They've posted that a lot of things are in flux, and last year was a starting point to tweek Organized Play. I'm positive they have a multi year plan where some things can be introduced here and there. Change will come, AT IT'S OWN PACE, or at a pace that is set by TPCi. Allowing ourselves to get worked up about it is futile.

If Exo did come on only as a "response" to "spilled beans," that's the point of our frustration, the info was only released by Exo BECAUSE he HAD to. We want them to willing WANT talk to us, not have "confidentiality" issues. The problem in the first place was that it was CONFIDENTIAL. More on this later on in the post. Wait for it, I wouldn't want you to think I'm not responding to an important point.

And, for what its worth, I'm probably much, much older than you think. Perhaps, but then again you can only guess, since you don't know if I'd speak the same way to a teenager or a grandfather. I don't claim to be patient and I can attest to some of the virtues of what patience I have learned in life, but this isn't an issue of patience. Again, honestly curious, how long should one be willing to wait?

Due to circumstances .... as long as necessary, but no further. And I do think it's a matter of patience and perseverance, and yes, faith that the info will be released as soon as humanly possible. You can quote me on that.

That's not what he's saying at all. He's saying that the 4 people who make up OP have too many roles and that they should hire more people to move some of those roles to other people. It's no good if you're the PR guy, head tester and treasurer. Those roles need to be broken up among multiple people.

Then how would you like your Organized Play broken up? Can you have it both ways - larger work force and a better organized play with early release of info? I sincerely doubt it.

WE EXPECT TOO MUCH? We are lifelong devoted fans to this game. We spend hundreds, upon thousands of dollars INDIVIDUALLY in a lifetime, playing this game. Purchasing cards, travel costs, etc. We have a right to expect WAAAAAY more than what we are currently getting.

It's actually insane that you think we should "give them a break" :nonono:

Furthermore, all we have to do is turn our heads and GLANCE at what other trading card games are doing for their fans. There is no excuse that pokemon can't do what they do better.

And look, I'm not just some psychopath going on a tirade against pokemon. I adore this game. I love it to death. I've played it since I was 9 years old (I'm 22). Pokemon has been more in my life than probably anything else, ever. And I want this game to be what I believe it can be. And for it to be at that level, it needs drastic overhaul of TPCI's entire strategy.

Sheesh, I'd be willing to communicate with fans, FOR FREE, if it meant we got the information well in advance. Or at least an excuse for why the information isn't in front of us, right now.

My attitude? I'm a disgruntled life-long fan that has finally had enough. We're looking at Battle Roads FOUR DAYS AWAY. And I don't know if the tournament is worth championship points. I don't know what the best finish limit for Battle Roads is going to be.

I don't know a single thing.

To top it all off, I'm also a judge. I'd be willing to judge the events if it means they aren't worth Championship points. But I don't know if I should play in them, to have a chance at worlds 2013.

This is completely unacceptable, to have your entire population of fans in the dark. No company should work like this. It's a joke.

This has been a long time coming, this instance was just enough.

And as for my "directionless complaining", I'm pretty sure it's focused, like a stinking laser beam, right at TPCI.

Chill Rokman. Don't blow a Rokgasket. Whether or not you believe you have a right to go on a tirade about TPCi's inadequacies, you need to realize a few things. One of those things I'm ashamed to say didn't come to me until after I retired from pokemon (I guess I certainly can't be given the Sherlock Holmes award). It's this: You don't think PTO's are the only ones with NDA's do you? The second is this: we have absolutely no idea how far up the chain of command (or where) certain decisions go before the answers get sent back down. We also don't know how much leeway employees of TPCi have to make decisions - nor are we ever going to find out. So the better part of wisdom will dictate patience. There's no better plan right now than to not get riled up about it, since there's nothing we can do about it anyway. Have faith that they have the best interests of Organized Play in mind - even if it seems like they are delaying in your opinion. Looking for the best in others will do you and them more good than not doing so.
 
I think that there might be a few reasons we don't have the FAQ for the Battle Roads yet.

We know that the prizes, minus the Championship Points are going to be the same. Battle Roads are still a premier event, which has to make you believe it will be worth something. Now, at the same point they did state earlier that things as far as point structure would be changing, so there might still be discussion going on. You have to remember this is the earliest we have started for a season since the game left Wizards. A lot of the Staff get the week off after Worlds, which means that many of them didn't get back into the office most likely until the 20th, which was a week ago. They are probably reviewing data and trying to figure out how to do everything. Even if we don't know by the first event, we will by the second, since if someone uploads a tournament, they will know if they got CP or not. That's not to say maybe they will be added retroactively. I'm going with the assumption that not only is it practice for Regionals, but it will give CP even if it hasn't been stated yet.

Drew
 
While the lack of information can be frustrating, what makes people mad is the lack of communication. OP needs to communicate with the players regarding the timetables for their decisions.

It wouldn't hurt for someone from OP to issue a memo that says, "We're still working on the Championship Point breakdown for Battle Roads, but you can expect to hear by [date]. Thanks for your patience."
 
While the lack of information can be frustrating, what makes people mad is the lack of communication. OP needs to communicate with the players regarding the timetables for their decisions.

It wouldn't hurt for someone from OP to issue a memo that says, "We're still working on the Championship Point breakdown for Battle Roads, but you can expect to hear by [date]. Thanks for your patience."

Not really. If Liesek came on here right now and said "we're still working on the CP breakdown for BRs, but we'll know by the second week!", I'd still be thoroughly tilted.
 
While the lack of information can be frustrating, what makes people mad is the lack of communication. OP needs to communicate with the players regarding the timetables for their decisions.

It wouldn't hurt for someone from OP to issue a memo that says, "We're still working on the Championship Point breakdown for Battle Roads, but you can expect to hear by [date]. Thanks for your patience."

The last time they said that for PTCGO and everybody was whining about it not coming out on time.
 
What I don't understand is how can they release the little bits of info and not expect people to want the rest of it faster. We got the news of no top cuts over a month ago. They had to have had some idea of what they wanted the points for this season to be around then. Even with Worlds inbetween they should have been able to release the whole thing last week.
 
The last time they said that for PTCGO and everybody was whining about it not coming out on time.

Because they put out a date that they did not meet, rather than making a safe estimation that even int he face of bugs/lag/etc could be achieved. If we had been told that we would find out this week, it would make the process a lot less frustrating thats for sure.

This information is also different though, because there is a date at which the need for information hits a pinnacle in the first BR tourney. PTCGO had no tie in with its release date; all the more reason they should've estimated more carefully.

There's a lot of hate going on for the guys running the show. I agree they could really use a PR presence myself, but would never go all Frankenstein town's people on them. They do a good job, and we are quicker to blast them for their flaws than hold them high for their success.
 
They do a good job, and we are quicker to blast them for their flaws than hold them high for their success.

I can do a good job with 10 project at work, but if I fail to deliver on-time to my client on my 11th project, I'm fired. That's how the real world works. I do a good job with projects because it's my job. I get paid to do my job.

As a customer, I expect OP to be expedient with all of their announcements. They can be punctual with 10 announcements, but if they're tardy on the 11th, the customers have a right to speak up.

It's a very American idea that someone can do a "good job" at the job 95% of the time and expect to not get blasted for the 5% of the time that they do a "bad job." If you did a bad job, you did a bad job.
 
My attitude? I'm a disgruntled life-long fan that has finally had enough. We're looking at Battle Roads FOUR DAYS AWAY. And I don't know if the tournament is worth championship points. I don't know what the best finish limit for Battle Roads is going to be.

I don't know a single thing.

To top it all off, I'm also a judge. I'd be willing to judge the events if it means they aren't worth Championship points. But I don't know if I should play in them, to have a chance at worlds 2013.

This is completely unacceptable, to have your entire population of fans in the dark. No company should work like this. It's a joke.




This has been a long time coming, this instance was just enough.

And as for my "directionless complaining", I'm pretty sure it's focused, like a stinking laser beam, right at TPCI.

Maybe make that lifelong part no longer lifelong?
 
Because they put out a date that they did not meet, rather than making a safe estimation that even int he face of bugs/lag/etc could be achieved. If we had been told that we would find out this week, it would make the process a lot less frustrating thats for sure.

This information is also different though, because there is a date at which the need for information hits a pinnacle in the first BR tourney. PTCGO had no tie in with its release date; all the more reason they should've estimated more carefully.

There's a lot of hate going on for the guys running the show. I agree they could really use a PR presence myself, but would never go all Frankenstein town's people on them. They do a good job, and we are quicker to blast them for their flaws than hold them high for their success.

That is almost the same thing here. Their could be "bugs" in this new battle roads because if they gave out to many CP then a lot of people will come. If their is little CP then not a lot of people will come and will make this harder to qualify for worlds. Also if anything they could release the info on the day of BR's.
 
Maybe make that lifelong part no longer lifelong?
I don't mean future life, I meant, as in my entire life up to this point. (Because I could, technically die of a heart attack, right now)

I'll probably have a heart attack anyway, because of how frustrating it is that TPCI can't run a company



Secondly, that would be a lose-lose scenario. I'd be losing Pokemon, something I enjoy. And Pokemon would be losing me, a paying consumer.
 
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They probably know that Battle Roads aren't important (saying no CP) so the demand to get such info out right away isn't there since they obviously know whats going on this season lol.
 
This whole "givem a break" argument seems more flimsy than soggy crepes. Sympathy for a corporation? REALLY? Sign of the times I guess......
If you want primo OP; then Pokemon isn't the game in which to expect it. Nintendo will always see OP as tertiary at best. Maybe with record attendance for the last cycle, we might see improvement. Just don't expect it.With no precedent it is an exercise in self flagellation that only leads to bitterness. I remember fondly my days of playing MTG. The structure was unrivalled by any game. But I know now to never expect that level of customer service from Pokemon Trading Card Game. We can continue to point out our dissatisfaction though, and maybe someone will eventually get a handle on it.

I also will agree to the point that the worst part is the lack of information. NDAs, last minute announcements, and overall lack of communication CREATE the biggest problems between players and the company. There isn't much logic inkeeping some of the things they do; under wraps. Blanket silence is never good for a game.
 
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