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Maybe a hint to their intentions? Black and White is due out April 25th, just over 2 months after CoL. Could TPCi be cramming in three sets where we would normally get only two? If so, this would surely go a long way toward mitigating ire over over an immediate cut with the release of BW.
 
Maybe a hint to their intentions? Black and White is due out April 25th, just over 2 months after CoL. Could TPCi be cramming in three sets where we would normally get only two? If so, this would surely go a long way toward mitigating ire over over an immediate cut with the release of BW.

I really hope that is not the case. The combined launch of the B&W video game and the card game has already put a lot of pressure on customer's wallets. Another tcg release in June would more than likely result in many more parents calling a halt to expenditure on pieces of card with a short expiry date!
 
Good article, but i must say, this game is not growing. the cheapness that pokemon is showing now can only be from they are in trobled times.
 
Good article, but i must say, this game is not growing. the cheapness that pokemon is showing now can only be from they are in trobled times.

Interesting. Is there any evidence that the game isn't growing? Do you have figures for sales/attendance?

Where does the 'cheapness' thing come from? If you mean medals instead of trophies at States, they explained that and it made a lot of sense to most people.
 
Interesting. Is there any evidence that the game isn't growing? Do you have figures for sales/attendance?

Where does the 'cheapness' thing come from? If you mean medals instead of trophies at States, they explained that and it made a lot of sense to most people.
Hai guise, just hijacking the topic real quick.


Where did they explain that? I'm not complaining or anything, I'm just interested in reading what they had to say.
 
Can't find the exact thread, but when people first brought the issue up, one of the TPCI guys did a long post explaining exactly how difficult and expensive to ship trophies are. Like, a lot more difficult and expensive than anyone imagined.

EDIT

Here's the post . . .

I am the person most responsible for pushing this change. So even though past experience tells me that no good can come of this, I am going to respond to the criticism. I knew that this would not be a popular decision with many of the players. I don’t think that player’s complaining about it is unreasonable. We gave you something big and impressive and now we are taking that away. I didn’t expect that go over without having a few shots lobbed my way. I did it anyway because it is a good decision.

I think it was a good decision because I believe the trophies took up too large a portion of our limited resources for the benefit they provided. The POP team doesn’t get to decide how much money we have to spend but are often responsible for deciding how that money gets distributed. There usually aren’t direct correlations between saving money in one place and spending on another. In this case there is; I took part of the savings and bought new State Championships in Arkansas, Nebraska and Alabama with it. Without this change, those events would not happen this year.

I see posts dismissing the savings as unimportant and I have to believe you haven’t really thought about it. I don’t think that even the people trying to defend us really grasp the scope of the problem. I would love to rattle off some pricing here, but I cannot do that and expect to remain employed. However I can point out some tournament numbers, mention some shipping routes and ask a question to try to bring a bit of perspective.

Firstly, glass is fragile and those trophies did break. In order to combat this we had to pay a company to uncrate the trophies and put them into custom designed padded display boxes. They still broke, so the next year we put those custom boxes into large shipping boxes filled with packing peanuts. Now only a few break, but we have to ship the all trophies from the manufacturer in China to the Ohio box company and then to our South Dakota fulfillment house, before sending them off to the organizers.

Last year we had 125 SPTs worldwide. That is 1500 heavy glass trophies; plus a large volume of packing material that doesn’t ship for free. My guess is that your largest estimate of the shipping and handling costs wouldn’t get them to South Dakota let alone to individual tournaments all over the world. Now for the homework; how much does it cost to ship a 442 pound pallet from Sioux Falls SD to Melbourne Australia? Don’t forget insurance, it is a 442 pound pallet of glass. Oh, and import duties for a pallet of trophies that are considerably more expensive than the estimates I see bandied about.

I look at all that and have to justify those costs against the benefits and the trophies come up short. I imagine that is why you don’t see a lot of other game companies shipping 1500 big hunks of glass to 22 countries. We have wanted to replace them for a few years but didn’t have a better option.

We finally found a suitable replacement in the new medals. Besides being cheaper, smaller and blessedly lighter, I think they look really nice. My guess is if we had started out with these everyone would have thought they were cool and we wouldn’t be having this fuss.

The intangibles brought up by Meganium and others are also true. The glass trophies are not compelling in photographs unless you stage them like a product shot. Even the City medals look great in photos, and the new medals are bigger and more colorful. Somebody called wearing a medal to a tournament bad sportsmanship, I call it a photo op. We are truly excited over the prospect of all the juniors strutting around Worlds proudly wearing their medals. Whether you competitive players like it or not, Organized Play is a division of Marketing. Generating photographs of cute children decked out in Pokémon gear is one of our primary benefits to our company.
 
Interesting. Is there any evidence that the game isn't growing? Do you have figures for sales/attendance?

Well, based solely upon the numbers compiled from US States and Regionals and worldwide Nationals last year, the game's attendance seems to have stagnated for a season. We'll know more after this year's round of States has been completed and the numbers have been compiled.
 
Well, based solely upon the numbers compiled from US States and Regionals and worldwide Nationals last year, the game's attendance seems to have stagnated for a season. We'll know more after this year's round of States has been completed and the numbers have been compiled.



But won't those numbers just have to do with ATTENDANCE at a sanctioned TOURNAMENT? What about actual product sales numbers. All I ever hear about is how Pokemon is the #1 selling TCG of w.e. sales quarter we're in. The games are selling through the roof and the anime has to be decent. I just find it funny how many people seem to keep pointing at the pokemon company being in a bind with the hard times.
 
But won't those numbers just have to do with ATTENDANCE at a sanctioned TOURNAMENT? What about actual product sales numbers. All I ever hear about is how Pokemon is the #1 selling TCG of w.e. sales quarter we're in. The games are selling through the roof and the anime has to be decent. I just find it funny how many people seem to keep pointing at the pokemon company being in a bind with the hard times.

Stagnation for a year after half a decade of consistent 30% growth year over year. It's like saying a marathon runner runs their first 7 miles in 12 minutes, 11:55, 11:45, 11:30, 11:10, 10:45, and 10:05, then posts mile 8 at 10:10. Yes, they performed worse on that mile than they did on one previous mile. But they're still significantly better than they were at mile 1. To me, it seems like Premier Event attendance levels are taking a deep breath and relaxing for a year or two before charging ahead again.

Also, y'know, the constant refrain that the casual fan constitutes the majority of the sales. There aren't any hard numbers to support this, but the ICv2 sales reports consistently put Pokemon as doing better in Mass Market channels (i.e. WalMart) than in Hobby Channels (i.e. local gaming store).
 
I say RR-on after states, and then HGSS after the full rotation year.

Although, Spiritomb could be bad for a format with lots of trainers and a disabled Rare Candy.
 
Spiritomb could be a saving grace in a format with gust of wind

Meh... Vileplume does the job just fine in a slower format. Just means that you can't dominate, or be dominated, quite as quickly and that isn't a bad thing.
 
Meh... Vileplume does the job just fine in a slower format. Just means that you can't dominate, or be dominated, quite as quickly and that isn't a bad thing.
a) Vileplume is only for very special decks, Spiritomb can be used in any slower setup deck.
b) With nerved Rare Candy, you can Gust of Wind Oddish before it becomes Vileplume.

Spiritomb is good for a healthy format. If there was one pre-HGSS card I can choose to be legal, it definitely would be Spiritomb.
 
Um... but exactly: IT STOPS GUST OF WIND.

They built Pokemon Catcher with only Vileplume and Goththingy in mind as far as Trainer-lock. An auto trainer locker is just dumb in HGSS.
 
Um... but exactly: IT STOPS GUST OF WIND.

They built Pokemon Catcher with only Vileplume and Goththingy in mind as far as Trainer-lock. An auto trainer locker is just dumb in HGSS.
It stops Gust of Wind on both sides, and gives any deck a chance to setup. Where is this a problem? The only issue with Spiritomb is abusing for complete locks (with lack of Warp Energy) but that's the same (or even more) for Vileplume.
 
They built Pokemon Catcher with only Vileplume and Goththingy in mind .


You have a lot of trust there, I dont really have much faith left in whoever creates the cards after they decided to reprint dce, Maybe they knew exactly what would happen if they reprinted GoW and it would be perfectly fair in a tomb less format but Id rather be safe then sorry and there isnt much hurt in having tomb around IMO.
 
I'm actually hoping for an Arceus on format whenever they decide to rotate. If they would have reprinted a few important cards from Arceus in COL then HGSS on would have been fine too, but good COL reprints was not to be...
 
I'm actually hoping for an Arceus on format whenever they decide to rotate. If they would have reprinted a few important cards from Arceus in COL then HGSS on would have been fine too, but good COL reprints was not to be...
Dunno, an Arceus deck with Pokémon Catcher in an AR-on format with nerfed Rare Candy scares me.
Expert Belt is another card we really don't need any more.

As I said, Spiritomb is the only card I want to keep from Arceus.

However, I'd bet on RR-on or HGSS-on. SV-on would be pointless, and you can discuss about whether AR-on can be better, but it makes no sense from the rotation standpoint. Either rotate four sets like planned to RR-on and thereby eliminate the SP core engine, or go for Japan's format with HGSS-on.
 
Expert Belt is another card we really don't need any more.

This.

When we adopt the B&W new rules, if we still have Expert Belt in the format, the game will inevitably gravitate towards first turn KO's. Having a Pokemon Tool (searchable with that Supporter I might add) that offers 20 extra damage in a format with PlusPower is dangerous no matter how you look at it. There will probably be some card to come out after B&W that can do a decent amount of damage for one energy. When it does, we'll be right where we are now... Donk Nation.
 
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