Dragon Trio Tins?

[Miamisportsfan45]

I've been checking around for these tins frequently as of recent and haven't been able to find them anywhere. I may end up checking Walmart though.

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We still haven't got a ruling on whether these are gonna be legal for states. Follow the link below and click thank if you want an answer to this.It's been skipped over a few times now.

http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=161763
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False. They're exactly identical reprints. Artwork and all.

Actually covered by the official tournament rules now:

Originally Posted by Official Tournament Rules
15.5. Unreleased Cards

From time to time, players will acquire cards from a new set prior to its regular release date,
usually via a Prerelease. These cards may not be used in sanctioned tournaments until the
regular release date of the set, as outlined in Section 16, with one exception. Cards that are
already tournament legal which have been reprinted in an unreleased set may be used as long
they are easily identifiable as a reprinted card. This is typically only an issue when a reprinted
card receives new art, though other factors may create a similar issue. These cards should
always be played with the most recent wording of the tournament-legal version of the card.
Players who are unsure as to whether an unreleased card meets the exception above should
check with the Head Judge prior to the start of the tournament

So, assuming that this is true, the tin promos should be legal even though they have not been officially released yet since they are exact reprints of tournament-legal cards.

 

[kyroid]

I've been checking around for these tins frequently as of recent and haven't been able to find them anywhere. I may end up checking Walmart though.

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False. They're exactly identical reprints. Artwork and all.

Not true, The set is replaced with a different symbol and number.
I believe that the tin dragons won't be able to be played in States

 

[ogremarauder]

But they haven't been officially released yet. I'm sure there is a reason this ruling question has left pop silent as of yet.

If you want an official answer ....http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=161763

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[Miamisportsfan45]

But they haven't been officially released yet. I'm sure there is a reason this ruling question has left pop silent as of yet.
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There official release date was a week into the second week of States but seeing as they're exact reprints, I don't see why they wouldn't be playable for States. I'm assuming this is why they rushed the tins out and carelessly did nothing more to the release of the EX's as far as artwork and other details goes.

 

[kyroid]

There official release date was a week into the second week of States but seeing as they're exact reprints, I don't see why they wouldn't be playable for States. I'm assuming this is why they rushed the tins out and carelessly did nothing more to the release of the EX's as far as artwork and other details goes.

Let me put it this way

Could I play a COL Interviewer's Questions before the set was out? No. It's the exact same card, but the set wasn't officially released.

 

[ogremarauder]

There official release date was a week into the second week of States but seeing as they're exact reprints, I don't see why they wouldn't be playable for States. I'm assuming this is why they rushed the tins out and carelessly did nothing more to the release of the EX's as far as artwork and other details goes.

Pokemon didn't rush the tins, overzealous, unprofessional distributors did.
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[Miamisportsfan45]

They rushed the distribution of the tins to stores and had the release dates set (or not - as it currently appears.)

Aside from that, did the Interviewers Questions have an "exact" wording and artwork to match or no? I wasn't playing at that point in time. Just recently returned from a 3 year departure.

 

[ChristHBK]

Not true, The set is replaced with a different symbol and number.
I believe that the tin dragons won't be able to be played in States

If the symbol and set were identical then it wouldn't be a REPRINT.

REPRINT are cards from older sets released in newer product (either with a new ART and/or new set/promo symbol).

It seems that the second part of the paragraph espeon200 posted was intended for exactly this situation and therefore given already a definitive answer...

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Let me put it this way

Could I play a COL Interviewer's Questions before the set was out? No. It's the exact same card, but the set wasn't officially released.

According to the rules, you could have.... again read the high-lit part.

15.5. Unreleased Cards

From time to time, players will acquire cards from a new set prior to its regular release date,
usually via a Prerelease. These cards may not be used in sanctioned tournaments until the
regular release date of the set, as outlined in Section 16, with one exception. Cards that are
already tournament legal which have been reprinted in an unreleased set may be used as long
they are easily identifiable as a reprinted card. This is typically only an issue when a reprinted
card receives new art, though other factors may create a similar issue. These cards should
always be played with the most recent wording of the tournament-legal version of the card.
Players who are unsure as to whether an unreleased card meets the exception above should
check with the Head Judge prior to the start of the tournament

 

[TheRolesWePlay]

Let me put it this way

Could I play a COL Interviewer's Questions before the set was out? No. It's the exact same card, but the set wasn't officially released.

I'm pretty sure there wasn't a tournament where the COL reprints were even available before release, so there wouldn't have been a ruling one way or the other.

Players who are unsure as to whether an unreleased card meets the exception above should
check with the Head Judge prior to the start of the tournament

I'd like to focus on this for a moment, so you should probably ask you HJ about this.

 

[Bilbo Baggins]

I compared the Emboar stage 2 Tin to the Zekrom EX Tin and noticed that the Emboar stage 2 Tin came with 5 packs while the Zekrom EX Tin only came with 4 packs and yet were the same price (19.99) @ Target.

15 dollars at my Target... you got ripped off man.


Also, are people really question the release date and if these are legal? If all these stores are selling them and its Nationwide, I'd assume that the real release date was this week....

 

[chrataxe]

Still, Zekrom EX is $10-15, Emboar is $2.00-3.00. Seems fair to me.

Anyone hear of Walmart having these tins out by any chance?

15 dollars at my Target... you got ripped off man.


Also, are people really question the release date and if these are legal? If all these stores are selling them and its Nationwide, I'd assume that the real release date was this week....

You're assuming wrong. The release date is March 21st. But, stores get their shipments in early, then employees that don't know/care put the product on the shelves before they are supposed to.

 

[ogremarauder]

Most of those chain stores are stocked by 3rd party distribution. The people stocking tcgs aren't store employees. They work for distributor companies that handle card games, comics,ect... Those companies have contracts that include specific release dates for a given product. What we have here is actually a breach of contract. If you look at TnT, they have these things releasing on the 12th, not 21st. I doubt they would sell early, so I'm assuming that is the updated release date. But it still falls after the first week of states.
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[Skitty]

Actually covered by the official tournament rules now:

Originally Posted by Official Tournament Rules
15.5. Unreleased Cards

From time to time, players will acquire cards from a new set prior to its regular release date,
usually via a Prerelease. These cards may not be used in sanctioned tournaments until the
regular release date of the set, as outlined in Section 16, with one exception. Cards that are
already tournament legal which have been reprinted in an unreleased set may be used as long
they are easily identifiable as a reprinted card. This is typically only an issue when a reprinted
card receives new art, though other factors may create a similar issue. These cards should
always be played with the most recent wording of the tournament-legal version of the card.
Players who are unsure as to whether an unreleased card meets the exception above should
check with the Head Judge prior to the start of the tournament

So, assuming that this is true, the tin promos should be legal even though they have not been officially released yet since they are exact reprints of tournament-legal cards.

Yes, I know about that part of the tournament rules. And if I remember correctly that rule was still there in the DP era (someone feel free to correct me as I'm not sure). But either way the HJ ruled that they still weren't usable. And the HJ's rule stands so there's nothing you can do.

 

[Austino]

Picked up a Zek EX tin tonight. Good stuff and glad to see them out early!

 

[Bilbo Baggins]

You're assuming wrong. The release date is March 21st. But, stores get their shipments in early, then employees that don't know/care put the product on the shelves before they are supposed to.

This many stores selling them though means its a new Release Date. If it was just Target, or Just Walmart, then you would be right. But when every single major store Nationwide is selling them, then that tells me that the Release Date was changed.

 

[Sandslash7]

Target in VA has all three. $15.99. 4 packs. Saw them myself and debated picking one up. Eventually didn't.

 

[cbellevie]

Fred Meyer in Bellevue, WA had all three for $15.99/ea. Picked up two and managed to score two additional EX cards in the boosters.

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[Miamisportsfan45]

Just arrived here in Orlando, Florida recently.

15.99 each.

 

[kroatia]

Are the packs inside a combination of BW sets or all from ND?

 

[TheRolesWePlay]

Are the packs inside a combination of BW sets or all from ND?

From what a few people have said it's supposed to be 2 ND, 1 NV, and 1 EP. Additionally other locations seem to be getting 4 ND packs.

I'd say the former is what you're supposed to get though the latter may still be possible depending on your area.