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Flaming_Spinach
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Kempley05 said:
A presidential veto can only STOP bills from being passed. So, if all the Dems can get together and pass something the Reps doesn't like, the president can just veto it.
It takes a vote in the senate of 66% to over-ride a presidential veto. That will not happen if th Senate is split down the middle.
In short, if the Dems and Reps disagree on a particular law, there will be no headway made at all in the next 2 years.
TheCrossFormatKid
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Voted over 24 hours ago, still don't know who won my state :-\
Moss Factor
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Are you kidding me? Lieberman is a true blue liberal. He opposed the Democrats on a SINGLE issue and lost the primary as a result. He's said he is siding with the Democratic caucus and will vote with the Dems just like he does on every single other issue. Furthermore, going to war is not an exclusive liberal or conservative ideal. Just because you support the war in Iraq does not mean you are not liberal, and visa versa.
Yes, he does have veto, and the Dems don't have enough votes (2/3 required) to overturn it. What it does mean is that there could be either gridlock or a lot of bills with democrat and republican concessions in them (dems making concessions to republicans so Bush will sign), depending on how well they can get along.
If it was a week or month after the elections, I'd say maybe. But the DAY after? Yeah right. He's probably had this planned for months and was just waiting until the elections were over so they didn't effect voters.
Vegeta ss4
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BUSH IS A SETTING DUCK, Woot Woot, go away Bush u worthless as it can be, thank god he wont get anything done at all.
pringlemasterlol
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the war in iraq isnt major??
Rulemaster
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Incumbant Matt Moss won his race for class clown. No surprises there.
Articjedi
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PokePop said:
Isn't that the way it's supposed to work? The founding fathers made all those checks and balances to ensure that a single faction would take over the entire government in the first place. The way the government was set up was to force people to compromise if anything would get done.
Papi/Manny
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George Washington warned us about political parties. Looks like he was right. I wonder how long Bush's judgement will be felt in the years after his term is over.
blastoise1992
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I'm afraid of the new house majority leader though, WAY too liberal IMO.
~Blazi-King~
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I voted for the Dems, mainly because im VERY Liberal aka Far "Left Wing." I did so because Bush has allowed to many laws to be passed that has tinkered with our rights, moral & private lives (IE: Phone Tapping), and going to war on BAD intel. Thats great and all, BUT where does it end? Does it end when the people of the US decide that they will not live under a BiPartisan Dictatorship? Yes it does, but IF the people of the US did what they did, yesterday, then this contry has a small chance. But whats sad about that is that it took the War in Iraq going badly for anyone to care to vote to have anything changed. Thats sad. IMO the government has gotten WAY too powerful and needs to be reduced in size. But I guess ill have to settlle for a Split Party governement until people decide that they have had enough of the government and actively seek to have it changed. What I about these recent elections, is that we have one party in control of the Presidency and the other in control of Congress. At least that way we wont have a party that has unanimous control over us.
That all depends on the President that succeeds him. Bush had his chance fro greatness with 9/11 and the War in Iraq. But what did he do, he blundered on the latter...And thats what he'll be remembered for mostly.
One thing I do admire about Bush is that he had the stability to get us through the 9/11 crisis.
That may be so, but I believe that he resigned to lessen the blow, that Bush would receive from the critics, for the Dems taking Control. I mean, come on, It was right after the elections. How convenient!
Papi/Manny said:
That all depends on the President that succeeds him. Bush had his chance fro greatness with 9/11 and the War in Iraq. But what did he do, he blundered on the latter...And thats what he'll be remembered for mostly.
One thing I do admire about Bush is that he had the stability to get us through the 9/11 crisis.
Moss Factor said:
That may be so, but I believe that he resigned to lessen the blow, that Bush would receive from the critics, for the Dems taking Control. I mean, come on, It was right after the elections. How convenient!
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blastoise1992
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I can only WISH you were in his situation right now........... What would you do when faced with a HORRIFIC act that KILLED thousands of innocent people???? Now, no one is supporting him. You don't have to agree, but you should support him, our country, and the troops when we're ALL faced with these trying times. Also, what if we DIDN'T go into Iraq, and Saddam SUCCESSFULLY set up a nuclear weapons program...... suppied our enemies...and then what would happen, then banded together with Iran and S Korea.......Vegeta ss4 said:
To all you people who hate Bush, put yourself in the same situations, and possible situations before you all jump to conclusions. I can only hope all you peopel who hate Bush can be in ONE HALF THE PRESSURE OF HIS SITUATION.
~Blazi-King~
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blastoise1992 said:
We knew that the intel we had on him having those weapons was bad. Now had we researched that info a little better and had it supplied to others, within the government, to look over and verify then yes I would support his descision to do that. BUT did you know the President has COMPLETE control over ALL the intelligence. So if he finds something that is troubling, he could go to congress or the UN and tell them that his has suspicions that someone has WOMD and that we need to go in there.
After we had gone into Iraq we found out that the info was bad....When dealing with war or similar actions I want the Governement to know exactly what its doing. Dont you? Not just relying on "Bad" info...Now im not saying that getting rid of a Vile Dictator is a bad thing...Its not..
The reason people hate Bush is that they dont know enough information to make an informed descision...
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