Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

EX: Team Magma and Aqua legal for March CCs?

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even if the CCs were classified as highly competative events by PUI . The additional provision of card restriction in the floor rules requires PUI to ADVERTISE THE RESTRICTION.

Now how hard is that!

Sheesh!
 
Sensei said:
In addition, highly competitive tournaments supported through Pokémon Organized Play may include specific rules on which expansions will be allowed for those events. New expansions may not be allowed for such events.

Well,that tells me that your "regular" tournaments,which are not supported by "Pokemon Organized Play" you can use all sets released but the CC`s,States,nationals,etc.,which are "highly competetive" and "supported by Pokemon Organized Play", TMvsTA may not be allowed.So,using common sense,and until I would hear that POP says that TM vs TA is allowed,I wouldn`t allow it if my CC was in March.

`Sensei
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Sensei is right it does state that in highly competetive tournament and supported by POP that they can state which expansiions can be allowed for these events, hence new expansions may not be allowed. Im sure for the State Championships PUI will give the okay, but they want to make the CC fair and the same for all players not matter when they play in them. If you let a new set into the CC, then it could create a unfair advantage for the reason that it is a new set and some players cant go out and buy it right away. Were Dragon has been out for 3+ months now kids have had the time to buy packs here and there, to trade, and make decks. With new only out less then a week or two it doesnt give players time to do this. You also have to think of it this way. Some of us older players are able to buy boxes of new sets when they come out since we have jobs, credit cards, and such. Were younger players might only have a weekly allowence or what their parents can give them from time to time to buy a pack or two. I dont see a lot of players parents buying them a boxes when new sets come out anymore. Just my thoughts.
 
PUI-sponsored events certainly can have restricted formats. But, for local non-PUI events, I'd certainly NOT disallow players from using their new cards.
 
PUI-sponsored events certainly can have restricted formats.
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Nobody disputes this at all but with that also comes..

highly competitive tournaments supported through Pokémon Organized Play may include specific rules on which expansions will be allowed for those events. New expansions may not be allowed for such events. check our website pokemon-tcg.com for specific details on the event.
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As NoPoke has said already they must advertise the fact that they are not allowed.
 
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I think you are overlooking one key phrase...may not.This means it may or it may not be allowed.Therefore,you have to check their website to see if it is or isn`t allowed.Nowhere does it say "If you don`t see it on our website then it`s allowed"

This question has been posed to Steve on the PTO list,so stay tuned for an official answer.

`Sensei
 
come on now sensei...

you're reminding me of my days working for the military when "shall not" and "may not" were different. "May not" was flexible, and "shall not" was inflexible.

my personal opinion is that ALL CCs should use the same format, regardless of Official Release Dates. I expect that will be the ruling.
 
Nope,not trying to sound like that at all.I was simply pointing out that their reference of the quote above saying that it could only be interpreted one way which was "they must advertise the fact that they are not allowed" was wrong and I was just pointing out that they were overlooking a key phrase.After all,it further states " check our website pokemon-tcg.com for specific details on the event".So,it doesn`t say "If you don`t see it on our website then it`s allowed",it states to check for specific details which could mean anything.

`Sensei
 
Gym Leader Blaine said:
Some of us older players are able to buy boxes of new sets when they come out since we have jobs, credit cards, and such. Were younger players might only have a weekly allowence or what their parents can give them from time to time to buy a pack or two. I dont see a lot of players parents buying them a boxes when new sets come out anymore.
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Thus the 3 tournament age groupings...

I agree that the format should be standardized. Not every player will email the TO before traveling 100's of miles. Many players just bring their tournament deck, and have no extra cards along to modify it if certain cards they just purchased are suddenly disallowed without advance notice.

If TO's have discretion this will be a quagmire. It will turn some players off from the game. We all know how important player retention has become!

This is a serious issue. This should have been anticipated and addressed long before now. I'd be frustrated if I brought a deck that was legal according to the floor rules and it was disallowed. Many players already have the March dates on their calendars, and have no reason to check the FAQ page again. There WILL be some players with AVM in their decks in March even if a fix is attempted; it's inevitable. :nonono:
 
Sensei said:
I think you are overlooking one key phrase...may not.This means it may or it may not be allowed.Therefore,you have to check their website to see if it is or isn`t allowed.Nowhere does it say "If you don`t see it on our website then it`s allowed"

`Sensei
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WHAT???

The Floor rules state that cards are legal for play after there release.

remember that ... it means that you CAN PLAY WITH NEW CARDS. Kind of important.

There is an exception for 'competative events'

So what is the exception? Obviously it can't be that you CAN play with cards after their release since you can do that anyway!
 
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I think you are overlooking one key phrase...may not.This means it may or it may not be allowed.Therefore,you have to check their website to see if it is or isn`t allowed.Nowhere does it say "If you don`t see it on our website then it`s allowed"
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Sensei,

that just ignores the true fact of the last line..check our website pokemon-tcg.com for specific details on the event.

If it is not SPECIFICALLY SPELT OUT then the floor rules MUST take precedence.

Anything else is just more poor rulings made on the hoof!
 
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PUI-sponsored events certainly can have restricted formats. But, for local non-PUI events, I'd certainly NOT disallow players from using their new cards.
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Which is fine since you are running the event and sponsoring it. But the question for this form is since PUI sponsored event that they should decided to use the new set or not.
 
Broken Lizard said:
If TO's have discretion this will be a quagmire. It will turn some players off from the game. We all know how important player retention has become!
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The biggest problem for me when it comes to having players turned off on the game is when past players come back to the game, and I have to tell them there old Decks are not allowed anymore. Not with letting them not use a new set for two weeks.
 
There is an exception for 'competative events'

Exactly my point guys.We are talking about if TM vs TA will be allowed in the later CC`s(read:competetive events).It`s right in the "Floor rules" you are heavily relying on.By taking that fact,it will be let on before the release date of the cards that the info that they will allow it or not will be posted on their website.So,we have to wait and see.With that knowledge,and the fact that the PTO`s have brought up this issue,then we will surely have an answer shortly.Be patient everyone.

`Sensei
 
When is the official release date for TM vs TA anyways??? Either way, we cant use cards before them, and the Pre-releases are being held next month. CC's will be over, or almost over by the time these are officially released, we couldnt use them if we went to a prerelease anyways, from the sounds of it. And wouldnt be playable til the official release date anyways, correct?
 
Hello all,

I just got of the phone with Steve at PUI...This is official straight from Pokmon here in Redmond, Wa..

The Team Magma and Team Aqua card sets will not be allowed to be used in the CC events tournaments.

He said this information would be posted on the Pokemon TCG website soon...

In response, I would encourage PTOs and TOs to hold side events at their CC championships held after March 15, 2004 to allow players to use the Team Magma and Team Aqua cards....

I hope this helps.......

Pokeplayer
 
I just got of the phone with Steve at PUI...This is official straight from Pokmon here in Redmond, Wa..The Team Magma and Team Aqua card sets will not be allowed to be used in the CC events tournaments.

I guess that answers the question.;)

`Sensei
 
Pokeplayer said:
The Team Magma and Team Aqua card sets will not be allowed to be used in the CC events tournaments.


In response, I would encourage PTOs and TOs to hold side events at their CC championships held after March 15, 2004 to allow players to use the Team Magma and Team Aqua cards....

I hope this helps.......

Pokeplayer
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So we cant use them unless there is a Side event at the CCs, that works for me. :D
 
I just got of the phone with Steve at PUI...This is official straight from Pokmon here in Redmond, Wa..The Team Magma and Team Aqua card sets will not be allowed to be used in the CC events tournaments.

I guess that answers the question.
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Actually no it doesn't hadly an official answer and until they comply with there floor rules I think hard to enforce!

check our website pokemon-tcg.com for specific details on the event.

If they delay and delay updating all the other pages why should we think this will happen?
 
You`ve got to be joking,right?You were just given the official answer to the question this topic posed straight from the guy who is in charge and before they have time to even sneeze,let alone put it up, you`re immediately on their case.C`mon guys.

The answer to this topic has been given.Steve said it will be up.Stop getting on their case before the due time of said objective is up.

`Sensei
 
Sensei said:
You`ve got to be joking,right?You were just given the official answer to the question this topic posed straight from the guy who is in charge and before they have time to even sneeze,let alone put it up, you`re immediately on their case.C`mon guys.

The answer to this topic has been given.Steve said it will be up.Stop getting on their case before the due time of said objective is up.

`Sensei
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Updating one or two pages on Pokemon-TCG.com with the announcement that TA/TM is not allowed outside of Prereleases until the official release date takes far less than thirty minutes to publish. But knowing PUI's track record of updating important information, this could take weeks. Sure, the first person to Email/Call PUI has an answer, as well as the PTOs. But the general public? Weeks. Too often we rely on unofficial websites to find official rulings and announcements. Not everyone who plays Pokemon comes to this board.

I'd assume with the excess of cash earned after managing to sell out of the first edition of Ruby/Sapphire and other expansions, we'd have a few more employees to work on such things, but so far nothing has changed.
-Phil
 
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