Ghetto Overlord
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20 more hp and 20 more damage? is it really worth the extra prize? the answer is no, not right now. What is the meta game right now? From BR's we are looking at flygon, gengar, gyrados, and beedrill. what do these four decks have in common? the answer is big HP and big damage. with the exception of gengar but with people putting in relicanths do you really want to put more tools on the feild? So ignoring gengar we have flygon, beedrill and gyrados. since the release of the AoA set the hype is around mainly salamance X. so the big three from last time and a possible new comer that all do a decent amount of damage, how far will you get on 20+ hp? the reality is not far.
Example A: gyrados V. flychamp
I chose those 2 decks cause most of the threads on here are about mega HP mega damage decksand these decks have both
my turn: i have set up one of my gyrados and attack for 30 onto a chatot or a stall or whatever
opponet's turn: they send up a fresh flygon and power swing. ive used flygon for about a month now and is definitly my cities choice, and the average i do with power swing this early into the game is 80-90. so we'll just say 90, BUT! they have the handey dandey expert belt so they can do 110. unfortunitly that doesnt knock me out cause my gyrados has 130 hp.
my turn: set up a little bit more and attack for 90. so they have 30 hp left
opponet's turn: set up a little bit more, including a level up and power swing for 100. but with expert belt it goes to 120. for the first KO
my turn: the flygon which now is a level X only has 60HP left so i can easily ko it with a gyrados, or even a crobat and saybleye if i wanted to. but lets say i can pick up a dark energy/rosannes/crobat/insert important piece to this equation here, so i send up a gyrados and knock out your flygon lvx.
opponet's turn: okay now what? you just went from being a prize head to being one behind, but youre thinking its okay i have position, i can draw first blood on the gyrados. really? do you really have an edge cause if it takes two turns for us to kill each other and im a prize ahead, it doesnt sound like you have much of an edge any more.
Conclusion of example A: 20 HP doesnt go to far when people are doing 70-90 damage. like in the format now. next example is about the AoA salamance LvX
Example B: Salamance V Gyrados
First of all im not talking Salacatty but straight salamnce
opponet's turn: you set up a gyrados with an expert belt and KO my bagon
my turn: i candy into a slamance (the one with the body) and give him a fire, pass
opponet's turn: you ko the uxie i set up as a stall with an amaing 120 damage
my turn: send up salamance and rosannes/bebe/already have it in my hand for a water and crobat. give him a water due to his body thats all i need. level up and target you gyrados with my power. and play crobat/pluspower/bucks but most likely crobat cause that what most poele online are pairing with him. so drop crobat give your gyrados an extra 10 and attack with steam twister. taking 3 prizes. so now the game is HALF over for me. and once again i have a prize lead.
Conclusion of example B: Anyone see what im getting at? Anybody?
discuss please
Example A: gyrados V. flychamp
I chose those 2 decks cause most of the threads on here are about mega HP mega damage decksand these decks have both
my turn: i have set up one of my gyrados and attack for 30 onto a chatot or a stall or whatever
opponet's turn: they send up a fresh flygon and power swing. ive used flygon for about a month now and is definitly my cities choice, and the average i do with power swing this early into the game is 80-90. so we'll just say 90, BUT! they have the handey dandey expert belt so they can do 110. unfortunitly that doesnt knock me out cause my gyrados has 130 hp.
my turn: set up a little bit more and attack for 90. so they have 30 hp left
opponet's turn: set up a little bit more, including a level up and power swing for 100. but with expert belt it goes to 120. for the first KO
my turn: the flygon which now is a level X only has 60HP left so i can easily ko it with a gyrados, or even a crobat and saybleye if i wanted to. but lets say i can pick up a dark energy/rosannes/crobat/insert important piece to this equation here, so i send up a gyrados and knock out your flygon lvx.
opponet's turn: okay now what? you just went from being a prize head to being one behind, but youre thinking its okay i have position, i can draw first blood on the gyrados. really? do you really have an edge cause if it takes two turns for us to kill each other and im a prize ahead, it doesnt sound like you have much of an edge any more.
Conclusion of example A: 20 HP doesnt go to far when people are doing 70-90 damage. like in the format now. next example is about the AoA salamance LvX
Example B: Salamance V Gyrados
First of all im not talking Salacatty but straight salamnce
opponet's turn: you set up a gyrados with an expert belt and KO my bagon
my turn: i candy into a slamance (the one with the body) and give him a fire, pass
opponet's turn: you ko the uxie i set up as a stall with an amaing 120 damage
my turn: send up salamance and rosannes/bebe/already have it in my hand for a water and crobat. give him a water due to his body thats all i need. level up and target you gyrados with my power. and play crobat/pluspower/bucks but most likely crobat cause that what most poele online are pairing with him. so drop crobat give your gyrados an extra 10 and attack with steam twister. taking 3 prizes. so now the game is HALF over for me. and once again i have a prize lead.
Conclusion of example B: Anyone see what im getting at? Anybody?
discuss please
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