Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Expert Belt = really bad?

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Kayle said:
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Calling Expert Belt the worst card in the format is like calling Claydol the worst card in the format, because Claydol is useless when it gets powerlocked. Everything is useless when powerlocked. It's normal.
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Aha you and your Glaceon. Million other examples that could have been used:)
 
And a little more faith in humanity died today...:nonono:

Expert Belt has some nice usage, dubbing it the worst card in the format is a pretty nice joke, I must admit. For starters, both of your examples pretty much prove its worth, considering Gyarados will just bounce back to get another giant fish out and kill the Flygon you killed it with, and then you're stuck. And against Sally, it'd live to fight another day, thus Super Scoop Up comes to have some action). Expert Belt proves useful in both situations from what I can see, so calling it the worst card in the format...makes me believe that...

You're trollin'.
 
Uh as long as gengar SF and uxie LA are in the format Expert Belt will never be "really bad". I don't care what kind of situations you list, or technicalities you point out, being able to hit gengar for 40 dmg and avoiding fainting spell, with only needing a basic, an energy, and a tool to work makes this card one of the most important and defining cards of the format. Unarguably so.
 
Expert Belt has definitely been bad for theorymon.

Now, apparently, it means that my Pokemon get OHKOs every turn and NEVER DIE.

What's that? My opponent is using Expert Belt as well? Great, that's an extra prize per turn for me, then.

Edit: Thank you for articulating an opinion w/o being disrespectful - RA
 
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Sabett said:
being able to hit gengar for 40 dmg and avoiding fainting spell, with only needing a basic, an energy, and a tool to work makes this card one of the most important and defining cards of the format. Unarguably so.
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1. I'm not very skillful player, can you explain how to avoid fainting spell by using an expert belt?

2. Would you use expert belts for sableye donk if you had a chance to do so? I don't expect to attach an expert belt if you don't have to. Just in case you face uxie, azelf, even damaged stronger opponent. I guess you should look on your oppponent's bench to see whether he as chance to knock you out before you super scoop up/Crash chant or whatever are your possibilities.

Thank you.

P.S. I will definitelly try an expert belt in my Gyarados deck ;-)
 
1. If you shuffle Uxie back up with it's attack, fainting spell is completely bypassed, KOing nothing on a heads.

2. Uh, well idk it seems bad to put it on weak stuff in general imo.
 
Gwaihir75 said:
1. I'm not very skillful player, can you explain how to avoid fainting spell by using an expert belt?
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With Expert Belt, Uxie does 40 damage and goes to the bottom of the deck which avoids Fainting Spell. That means you need to get a Gengar within 40 damage of a KO (20 if they have Nidoqueen out), and then use Psychic Restore to knock it out. Makes this a little bit easier.

2. Would you use expert belts for sableye donk if you had a chance to do so? I don't expect to attach an expert belt if you don't have to. Just in case you face uxie, azelf, even damaged stronger opponent. I guess you should look on your oppponent's bench to see whether he as chance to knock you out before you super scoop up/Crash chant or whatever are your possibilities.
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Sableye always goes first cos of its Overeager PokeBody. If your opponent starts with a 50 HP Basic, you can attach a Special Dark and get the OHKO/donk (If they have 40 or less HP, you can do it with a Basic Dark). You can't play Trainers on the first turn, so Expert Belt isn't going to help the T1 donk at all.

You could use it on your T2, but they will likely have Benched Pokemon by then with Roseanne/Call Energy and a revenge KO on Sableye means they will be taking 2 Prizes, so you have to be a bit careful.
 
It's like a Super Plus power really.

If the Expert Belt play KO's their main attacker and that's where all their energy has gone, then you needn't worry about the KO in retalliation.

You're just hitting too hard & too strong for them to get back in the game.

At that point, who even cares if they FINALLY KO for 2 prizes?

By this time, I'd probably be loaded HEAVY on the bench and ready to sweep w/o another Expert Belt anyway.

This is the same logic that could be applied to Machamp LvX. Sure, you give up a prize, pretty much, but what do THEY have left when the big dog is gone?

That's how I think about it anyway... It's my little "Machamp X" tech ... (LOL!)
 
I really like an Expert Belt tech, mostly because once your opponent gets down to one prize card, it's an awesome last ditch attempt and retaking control of the game.

Edit: Thank you for articulating an opinion w/o being disrespectful - RA
 
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i legit cried from laughter from reading this. You didn't even make a legit argument for a completely absurd statement. I absolutely do not see what you are getting at to be honest. Expert Belt is easily one of the best cards to come out of the Arceus Set
 
no i dont reread i definitly said it would take 2 turns
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This is assuming you can ever kill a Kingdra destroying your pokemon for 80 HP's a turn on Potentially Turn 1.

The issue is this, can you make up for the amount of prizes your opponent is taking when it has 150 HP's and dealing damage to kill? As for the amount of damage dealt, Kingdra can run Nidoqueen just like any other deck in this format, so really, retreating can end this just as quickly as not. How else do you think Garchomp and Flygon are so relevant right now? Yeah, you'll take two prizes.. eventually, but at what cost?

As for two turns at 150, thats a lot of damage to whittle down. Very few pokemon in this format can do this fast and those who can't are hindered by the same things that make Kingdra solid. Kingdra prides itself on early game disruption by knocking out quick threats. You honestly think you can stop this that fast before it ends you? What about Garchomp, sitting on 60 damage guard claws for two with even more HP's to force you to try to hit harder with Nidoqueen still being viable? Yeah, Belt's not good on everything, but the things it can go on make some lesser known decks stupid good.

Expert is really bad when played really bad.
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A truer statement couldn't be said better.
 
yes it is really bad when a unintelligent player is using it. But if a smart or expierenced player plays it, they know what they are doing.
 
:thumb: I know that no player would ever possibly think of using expert belt to actually lose a prize and go behind so they can come in with upper energy and take control of a game...that would be crazy talk :thumb:
 
you have an opinion and expressed it.

Others have a dissenting opinion.

Nobody thinks poorly of you...they are trying to educate you in their opinios...just some are nicer at it than others
 
Ghetto Overlord said:
tired of agrueing with people whos only return argument is to called me and idiot

lock this thread and my account too please
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I gave you a 3 paragraph answer and all you could comment on was a little mistake in your example. Who's the one bad at argumenting now?
 
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