Mewtwo EX; Believe the hype
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shiwei87tan
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if they reprint Waillord EX.. 260 to 350HP maybe? if taking the old hp difference ratio of 100 for mewtwo and 200 for waillord.. 170hp : 260hp to 350hp should be right with the damage that mewtwo EX is able to deal.. that's for the most bulky tanky stage 1.. stage 2 for maybe TTAR EX should be around 200HP to 250HP most probably i guess.. since TTAR prime is already 160HP..
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Otaku
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Except it isn't always in scale. Have we seen any Evolved Pokemon-EX yet? Evolved as in either Pokemon that aren't Basic Pokemon or a Pokemon-EX card that itself isn't a Basic?
Just wondering, since I could see them intentionally make all Pokemon-EX Basic Pokemon, and either not do Evolutions, or just do the Evolutions as Basic Pokemon for the sake of simplicity.
Just wondering, since I could see them intentionally make all Pokemon-EX Basic Pokemon, and either not do Evolutions, or just do the Evolutions as Basic Pokemon for the sake of simplicity.
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If they reprint Wailord with huge HP, remember Zekrom EX could attack 300 to Wailord EX because It has Lightning Weakness... But If it has more than 300 HP, It´s a Tank I think.. Stage 1 isn´t big Problem because Eelektrik is Stage 1
It doesn´t need Rare Candy...
I want Charizard EX reprint with Huge HP or Emboar EX
Charizard is great If it doesn´t have Lightning Weakness with it, like last time Charizard EX had..
If they reprint Wailord with huge HP, remember Zekrom EX could attack 300 to Wailord EX because It has Lightning Weakness... But If it has more than 300 HP, It´s a Tank I think.. Stage 1 isn´t big Problem because Eelektrik is Stage 1
It doesn´t need Rare Candy...
I want Charizard EX reprint with Huge HP or Emboar EX
Charizard is great If it doesn´t have Lightning Weakness with it, like last time Charizard EX had..
Otaku
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Even if the HP is scaled the same, there is the option of a double weakness (something we also used to see in the game to balance things out). Few of the double weak Pokemon were every problematic enough for universal counter to be needed... but at least one did exist!
Actually, more than one but it's the same Pokemon with tweaked effects: Kecleon.
EX Sandstorm
EX Legend Maker
DP Rising Rivals
Three out of the four Kecleon have effects that make this Colorless Basic Pokemon with Colorless Energy attacks an easy splash for just about any deck. The attacks may be flippy and not seem like much, but remember that the newest of these cards is from Rising Rivals. It was always printed with a solid amount of HP for a "plain" Basic Pokemon and the Energy-to-damage ratios were better then. Even now hitting for double Weakness would make it strong tech for many decks thanks to the abundance of Energy acceleration. The EX Sandstorm version would be the least useful since it would have to utilize the desired Basic Energy cards of the types it wished to mimic and if both coin flips for Double Slap were tails you did nada. The other two were easier to use to hit anything with double weakness for good damage: even the minimal 10 damage they did before Weakness would get doubled twice, and thus be 40 points for one energy. A single "heads" meant 120!
So since we are having fun speculating, just thought I'd point out that seemingly massive HP scores aren't necessarily going to be that massive. Even without double Weakness, you just need the Pokemon-EX to be weak to one of the current "power" Types... which right now we hit most of (thanks to big basics, but we still hit the Weakness). A hypothetical Wailord EX, even as a Stage one with record breaking HP would either be a one or a two-hit KO for a Zekrom... and since it would be non-Pokemon-EX versus Pokemon-EX for the prize swapping, a two-hit KO is fine.
Actually, more than one but it's the same Pokemon with tweaked effects: Kecleon.
EX Sandstorm
EX Legend Maker
DP Rising Rivals
Three out of the four Kecleon have effects that make this Colorless Basic Pokemon with Colorless Energy attacks an easy splash for just about any deck. The attacks may be flippy and not seem like much, but remember that the newest of these cards is from Rising Rivals. It was always printed with a solid amount of HP for a "plain" Basic Pokemon and the Energy-to-damage ratios were better then. Even now hitting for double Weakness would make it strong tech for many decks thanks to the abundance of Energy acceleration. The EX Sandstorm version would be the least useful since it would have to utilize the desired Basic Energy cards of the types it wished to mimic and if both coin flips for Double Slap were tails you did nada. The other two were easier to use to hit anything with double weakness for good damage: even the minimal 10 damage they did before Weakness would get doubled twice, and thus be 40 points for one energy. A single "heads" meant 120!
So since we are having fun speculating, just thought I'd point out that seemingly massive HP scores aren't necessarily going to be that massive. Even without double Weakness, you just need the Pokemon-EX to be weak to one of the current "power" Types... which right now we hit most of (thanks to big basics, but we still hit the Weakness). A hypothetical Wailord EX, even as a Stage one with record breaking HP would either be a one or a two-hit KO for a Zekrom... and since it would be non-Pokemon-EX versus Pokemon-EX for the prize swapping, a two-hit KO is fine.
SLOW DECK
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I agree that Mewtwo EX can fit into any deck right now, and it is very very strong. The non-mewtwo counters aren't obvious or easy to splash into a random build, so one would need to add Mewtwo ex itself. Thus Mewtwo EX will be in most every competitive deck will need to be countered in decks that don't run Mewtwo. The "dynamic" of the pokemon poker game will be that who will layout and engage with Mewtwo first, that will be the "trick".
I just hope that it is decent pull ratio for the set.
I just hope that it is decent pull ratio for the set.
King Piplup
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That's not good... can you shed any any light on what the pull rate was for SR's and other EX's?
Thundergod92
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Does that include full art?
I think the Box includes 3 Regural EX and 2 FA EX
Ch0ncey is Pr0
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Its 3 Ex's total in one box, 1 of which is full art. Back on topic
I bet durant will top cut multiple tournaments without mewtwo in it :thumb:
I bet durant will top cut multiple tournaments without mewtwo in it :thumb: