DukeFireBird
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However, masquerading as one, and being in the event, says that he knows of them, and therefore is subject to them.
Non-Professor wins Professor Cup!
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However, masquerading as one, and being in the event, says that he knows of them, and therefore is subject to them.
DarthPika
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I suggest you stop posting, since you're only going to get your self in trouble with P!P at the rate you're going.
Haunter_FanBoy
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at least i'm never dissapointed. and it's not like you can't have fun with criminals.
GodBlessAmerica
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Pokepop, man, I love ya. You are in my honest opinion the greatest professor to ever judge. But I feel you and many other high ranked judges are putting all of your hate eggs in one guy's basket.
I do not see you yelling that much at the people who chose to not take 2 minutes of their time to check if the guy was on the list. What he did was stupid, but what they did was just as stupid.
@Nick15: You may be over thinking this. There is a list. It has names, players ID's, and the points that have been earned. He was not on the list. The part where he got in any way is on us. The fact that he came up with the intent to lie to our staff and scam his way in is on him. Both issues are being dealt with as is appropriate.
Also for the record there are post event checks in place as well but with Nats and Worlds so close together this year, this would not have been caught before Worlds.
Also for the record there are post event checks in place as well but with Nats and Worlds so close together this year, this would not have been caught before Worlds.
Haunter_FanBoy
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Can i really get in trouble for posting on a forum? i am in no way endorsing what he did, i think it's wrong. just having a discussion on how bad this is.
baby mario
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Wait.
Are you joking?
You think a guy's education and career should be ruined because of this?
That would actually be more offensive than anything he did. He did do something wrong. He should be banned from Pokemon. But . . . I dunno . . . I don't think all the hatred and vindictiveness shown in this thread is reflecting well on the Pokemon community.
Nick15
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I understand what you are saying but most of this thread are just some players blaming the professor cup staff for not checking backgrounds and professors placing blame heavily if not solely on the perpetrator. Both sides are at fault but ppl are just pointing fingers and not looking at the whole picture.
Everyone just needs to get some ice cream and calm themselves
Who's signature quotes where PokePop says "Think. Then post." I absolutely agree with your statement... I've noticed (especially on online forums) people are quick to say without thinking about what they're saying. And this happens across the board, from admins and mods down to the lurker (though I'm not implying that's the case HERE). People should just stop and think about what has happened.
And, from my understanding, this is what happened:
* Mr. Aires lied to P!P staff that he was a Professor and thus illegally entered a tournament and won items which he shouldn't have received. WORSE is that he sold those items without returning them to their rightful owners, P!P and the second place winner, and then essentially gloated about it online without actually contacting P!P to admit his wrongdoing.
* At no point did the P!P staff check Mr. Aires' status as a Professor; neither in the beginning when registration was taken, nor when he made it into the top 8 (assuming there was a separate tournament for the top 8), nor when he finally won and the prizes were being given to him. From start to finish, P!P staff assumed he was allowed to be there.
Of course, this is as far as I'm aware.
Now blaming only one side or the other ignores the fact that there was more than just element--Mr. Aires--that let this happen. You're right, we all should be looking at the BIG PICTURE, versus the bits which agrees with our point of view and ignoring that which we disagree with.
Box of Fail
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I'm out of thanks but this is so true it isn't even funny.
SuperWooper
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pokemon is serious business
DarthPika
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Why shoudln't it be noted that he's a criminal in his education and career? He obviously has honesty problems, and I would think people with such problems should be marked as such.
GodBlessAmerica
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I like kevin agree with this completely. I am not out of thanks, but I figure this thread is getting updated every minute so I don't want to waste all of them
Box of Fail
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DukeFireBird
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If thats how your implying what I am saying, I may have to edit what I meant, so I apologize. What I mean is that he soiled his name with what he did, impersonating someone/something he is not, which is fraud. Down the road, a future employer who may of played pokemon now, may recognize Aiden's name and go, "Wait, that name seems familiar" and then checks up on it, and sees what happened. If said position was one of importance to the company, that could be a deal-breaker, and therefore disqualify Aiden from the job. Schools are no different. No high level University would want a student that is known to lie on it's campus.
K2theAblaM
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He's a liar and a cheat, but not a criminal. He most likely won't suffer any repercussions in his professional life because of this.
Okay, I know what i did was wrong, but I hate being called a criminal! I'm an average kid that did something stupid that day! I get it, got it, done.
I'm simple yet wanted to make an interesting article on 6P but in NO WAY wanted to hurt other's feelings.
Did I? I sure did. And I'm sorry.
I'm simple yet wanted to make an interesting article on 6P but in NO WAY wanted to hurt other's feelings.
Did I? I sure did. And I'm sorry.
You don't know that someone failed to check the list. This situation is nasty enough without these kinds of assumptions. There are actually a good number of ways this mistake could have went down, but we don't have all the facts yet.
Nick15
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What Mr. Aires did was wrong, and P!P should punish him to the full extent of that P!P is allowed to do: banning from Pokemon organized play, maybe even filing a police report claiming he stole property AND sold it, and then having the local police handle it from there.
But anything past that... no. I'm a firm believer in the idea that the punishment should fit the crime, and for the punishment to take from the convicted an equal amount of that which they took from others. All Mr. Aires did was waste people's time and steal maybe $500 worth of property (or however much the 1st place prize package was worth, it could have been more for all I know). What Mr. Aires did WAS wrong, but... well, it wasn't murder. As such, Mr. Aires punishment should take from him that which he took... $500 and the time he wasted from everyone by lying. After that, he's square and should be treated as such.
DarthPika
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Probably nothing in his professional life, but he is a criminal. Did he take prizes that were not rightfully his? Yes. Did he sell those prizes that were not his? Yes. Is this criminal behavoir? Yes. Gloss it over all you want, what he did was criminal. Had he left the prizes out of it, it would have probably been cheating at best. However, he took the prizes, and then sold them.
Absoltrainer
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Ah but the delimma being that he won then fiar and square. Sure his entry into the tournament was against the rules, but the way he obtained the prizes was not stealing. he played the matches and won. Stealing IMO would have been if he had walked up, taken the prizes and ran.
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