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Well it's a good thing I didn't put this one up!: http://pokebeach.com/images/header/hgss-girl-ow-blood-swing.png

JandPDS, I completely understand your concern - my parents never used to let my brothers and I watch Power Rangers when we were little because of the "violence." However, I don't really think the banner is that bad. A lot of times in the show Grass Pokemon have wrapped up trainers with Vine Whip to trap them (Chikorita). Jessie's hair has been burned and "on fire" countless times - haven't you seen her afro before (Cyndaquil)? Totodile biting Elm's hand is, as people pointed out, a reference to Elm's Training Method. Heck, Electric Pokemon literally shock people all the time. And there has been a lot "worse" in the show and movies before, though I don't consider any of it to be bad.

As for the blood, it's just a dash of it. Blood is in your daughter's body and your body. If a Totodile were to bite your hand, there would be blood (unless you're an alien). Blood is blood. It's not like the blood is dripping down her arm with a puddle on the floor. Or that Cyndaquil is boiling her hand off or flamethrowing her Totodile wound. Or that Chikorita is cutting off her fingers with Razor Leaf. Or that Totodile is dragging its teeth along her arm. It could have been a lot worse. :D

My site is geared (or I try to gear it) toward all age groups. Sometimes I think it's okay to do something a little radical. I'm sorry your daughter was a little put off by the image, but there were countless more people who liked it. I agree with you about how the world is a lot more evil nowadays - kids are always drinking, taking drugs, there's a lot of unnecessary violence, wars, etc., but it's JUST a cartoony image. I'm all for anti-evil, but in this case I don't think it's that bad.

When I went to Tokyo's Pokemon Center I talked to someone who worked on the show and is eventually going to work on the movies and he said that they get complaints about everything when Pokemon movies air or when the games come out. There will ALWAYS be someone who finds SOMETHING offensive. I hate it how companies always dumb-down things for that type of minority, which is why if I ever go into the movie industry, I will treat parent and child equally. Cartoons and franchises always treat kids like morons - like they can't handle a little blood or some serious themes - and I won't be like that. :)
 
Yoshi- said:
You know you're wrong when even Pokegym Mods tell you that you shouldnt be offended so easily and its no big deal ;D




[I couldnt stand the temptation to post this, itrs all good fun, im sorry :p)
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Strangely enough, I can't seem to find the 'PokeGym Mods' that said this.

Care to direct me to those posts?
 
Eh, I didn't feel it was too bad. While the blood I think was overdoing it a little, it is not a very offensive banner. However, I can understand your concern, and ultimately it is your judgment as a parent over mine (I have never raised children, so I can't say I truly understand your position). If it makes you feel any better, you can always block the image by right-clicking "block image" from PokeBeach. Or, you don't go there again.

I think it was good that you brought this up, though (although, directly mailing WPM may have been the more safe route). Who knows? Maybe more parents are upset by the graphic?

Sincerely yours,
~PokeChamp
 
Jand, you know infinitely more about parenting than I do (I know nothing of it); however, if you're so upset with your daughter seeing a g-rated cartoon of Pokemon attacking a person, then why don't you preview Pokebeach first? That way, she won't see anything you don't want her to.

Ditto with what a lot of WPM says.
 
I'm not offended, but I'm slightly weirded out by it. I don't really care how the administrator of a Pokémon website feels about a new playable character, especially if he's going to display it in such a weird manner with overtones of bondage and abuse. It's approaching the line between simple cartoonish violence and being psychologically disturbed, to be quite honest.
 
Well we all know I am already psychologically disturbed. :p If you don't want to visit a crazy person's website, then don't visit it. It's so obvious my disturbed mind has pushed thousands of people away from the site. I'm surrounded by enough of you normal people who make the world boring! :D
 
I commend you, Jand, on wanting to shelter your daughter as much as possible from what you consider too much for her to handle. I have 6 boys of my own, ranging in age from 15 to 5, and I know how difficult it is to find appropriate material for them. However, if the Pokebeach banner bothers you, *and yes, my 5 year old has seen it, and his response was "Mom, that is so awesome"*, then you might want to look over the material that is available in the school library that she will be attending. There are a lot of childrens books out there with at least ten times more disturbing images and subject matter, all readily accessible to innocent minds. Also, at least 25% of childrens movies have adult content and jokes, that while they may not understand them, will surely be repeated at some point or another to friends, relatives, and even a teacher or two. I also suggest avoiding most of the cartoons on Cartoon Network and Nicklodeon, as well as any current events or news programs. I am not saying any of this to put you down; I actually believe that you are on the right path, it is just that, though we try our hardest as parents to protect our children from the world, there are times and places that we cannot be there to shield them. Jumping on WPM's case over a harmless *Yes, I said harmless* piece of artwork is just not the way to go about it. I personally found it amusing, as did my boys. This is of course my opinion, and I am just speaking from personal experience over the years. I believe that WPM does a wonderful job on his site, and the new banner is nothing to really get bent out of shape over.

Also, in my opinion, to Ninetales, having children does not make one more narrow minded, just cautious. Being a parent actually broadens ones mind, and opens a whole new world of thinking. You have to be open-minded as a parent, because you never know what they will do next.

If I have offended anyone, please remember that this is my own personal opinion, I speak only for myself, without intent on offending or stepping on anyones toes, and that we are all entitled to speak our minds.
 
I personally find it a harsh trend that parents shelter their children too much. When kids have to learn about the facts of life from outside sources it is much more harmful than when they do it under the eyes of their parents. Where I grew up I found that most of the children and teenagers who were disobedient and broke the law were the sheltered ones. They smoked because their peers introduced it too them and had underaged relations for the same reasons. I, on the other hand, had the discussion of the birds and the bees with my mother when I was 4 years old. She also had me watch the news with her nightly as a child. I learned how the real world worked at an early age and grew up to be a fine, upstanding citizen. Never having taken illegal drugs. I don't drink. So on and so forth. Same with my brother. From my experience, sheltering the children is counter-productive.
 
Water Pokemon Master said:
Well we all know I am already psychologically disturbed. :p If you don't want to visit a crazy person's website, then don't visit it. It's so obvious my disturbed mind has pushed thousands of people away from the site. I'm surrounded by enough of you normal people who make the world boring! :D
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I obviously wasn't suggesting that you were disturbed, but the artwork in itself has connotations of being disturbing. It gives too much credit to the idea of fanart that you could draw something critical of a new character rather than something positive or neutral, and post it up on your banner of a frequently visited website by a myriad of fans. Hardcore fans who go to forums and etc. etc. won't mind fanart and will even find it amusing, but someone like myself who's really a bit more casual will be alienated. And in my case, I find it annoying and snarky. I have no idea what you think you're getting from keeping it up if there is vocal dissatisfaction with it.
 
Have you ever read Pokemon Special?
A Pokemon gets cut in half!
TWICE I might add for later parts.
Not only that there is zombie Pokemon with no eyes.
You think that is bad?
That is mild considering how Pokemon should have been.

Like pointed out before all of the said things in the picture have happen already in the cards, TV Series, or Manga.
In the new D/P a kid bites a grunts butt.
Not only that I think I Pokemon does too.
If it was a dead Pokemon or person with major injuries and blood spewing everywhere, then that is something to get offended over.

Once you think about it Pokemon is violent in more ways then that picture shows.
Shocking People
Burning People (Charizard in example)
Falling in pit holes
Pokemon Battling each other hitting them with attacks
Said bad guy capturing Pokemon in force field that shows the Pokemon in pain from it.o
If the banner offend you then it is recommend you stop playing Pokemon.
 
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Jran Sakarra said:
If the banner offend you then it is recommend you stop playing Pokemon.
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How in the world does being offended by something on a website equate to needing to quit the TCG? That's simply ridiculous.

If I'm offended by a piece of art, should I stop attending museums?
If I'm offended by a certain scene, should I never watch another movie?
If I'm offended by a magazine ad, should I never pick up another magazine?

C'mon now. The guy's entitled to his opinion. It's fairly easy to tell which of these posters are parents and which of them aren't.
 
yeah the "blood" is definitely Totodile's tounge. =/ and actually this is what happens on the TV show as well (ex. Carnavine and James, Pikachu shocking Ash) so i really don't see the difference.
 
If that offended you, stop using the internet. Really, because your going to do nothing but get offended.
 
Jran Sakarra said:
Have you ever read Pokemon Special?
A Pokemon gets cut in half!
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If I am reading a manga for the point of visual entertainment and story meant why would I object to something like that that basically goes hand-in-hand with said visual entertainment and story?

If I am checking a Pokémon news site for Pokémon news, I will not necessarily want fanart. Especially shock fanart with a snarky intent. There are other venues for that, and they're the sort I would avoid. If Pokébeach is a news site, the top banner should serve to create a general visual identity consistent with the purpose of the site. If Pokébeach is little more than a simple fansite, then it can do whatever it likes in the top banner, but there is a vast difference in quality and reputation between a fansite and a news site and I assume WPM is aiming for the latter.


He doesn't really *have* to take it down, but he definitely isn't getting anything from keeping it up.
 
ArrEmmDee said:
I don't really care how the administrator of a Pokémon website feels about a new playable character, especially if he's going to display it in such a weird manner with overtones of bondage and abuse.
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This sounds like one of those situations in which one is just seeing what he wants to see.
It's a Pokemon using a geniune Pokemon attack.
 
ninetales1234 said:
This sounds like one of those situations in which one is just seeing what he wants to see.
It's a Pokemon using a geniune Pokemon attack.
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WPM provided a link to http://pokebeach.com/images/header/hgss-girl-ow-blood-swing.png, which basically proves the undertone of bondage is a bit more strongly implied than you're suggesting.

EDIT: Actually he's now switched the two. If you're oblivious to the connotation of a 10 year old wrapped up in vines given the context and style of it, then it can't be helped.
 
meganium45 said:
Where a certain "Lafonte" board may have the best deck help, and discussion anywhere in the world, along with the Underground, and a few others, I wouldn't let my 13 year old view THOSE sites, because they are geared for a teenage set.
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We have deck help and discussion on our boards? That's news to me!
 
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