I lol at this thread still alive. If you want to play vs. Magmortar, you need Dugtrio. And Gallade should own you anyways, with or without Unown G. Period. And Dugtrio just isnt worth it when you lose to G&G anyways. As for the guy who t8'd: Look at his report. He beat BB because he sacked hard. The guy got the worst start ever. Round 2 he plays mirror, which is bad anyways. round 3 he loses to G&G. round 4. t2 parasect. 'nuff said. round 5. Blissey and the 3 elves? wat? Who plays the spirits? ;/. Round 6 he wins on time. Stalling is your friend, y'know? As for t8 even if you didnt get "donked" you wouldve lost. The deck isnt good, you really should stop trying to make it. I hate to say it, but, creativity doesnt work too much this format, due to G&G mostly. The most creative thing Ive seen is a few really interesting lists of top-tier decks. Thats it.
Salamence ex - G&G/Magmortar counter
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PokePockets
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wow...
the only thing i have to say to this post is... wow. You are one cocky son of a gun who is full of himself, you know that right? Just because we are all sick and ******* tired of all the uncreativity (G&G and Mag, yeah, you heard me... >.>) We are just trying to come up with a counter with creativity. So stop flaming the ******* deck and move on...
the only thing i have to say to this post is... wow. You are one cocky son of a gun who is full of himself, you know that right? Just because we are all sick and ******* tired of all the uncreativity (G&G and Mag, yeah, you heard me... >.>) We are just trying to come up with a counter with creativity. So stop flaming the ******* deck and move on...
No, Im just saying that plenty of people have tried creativity. It doesnt work. G&G literally stops creativity, with power lock and the fact they can OHKO anything. and theyre fast. I honestly dont think creativity is good atm, I know plenty of people who have tried. ONE person I know has come up with a good creative deck. Thats it so far ive seen. Im not trying to be cocky. I went to FL states and t4'd with G&G because I knew creativity wasnt the play. I can say I had a decently creative deck, because NO ONE expected half the stuff I used. If you want a suggestion, fine. Try using the THOY ENGINE in here.
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Omega_Prime
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No i don't play Unown G at all, i found it to be inconsistent, if anything i'd play one unown G and a Feebas so that i'll play the G on Feebas so that if anyone tried to bring down, nothing would happen, and if they windstorm they'd only bring down a feebas which would be no lost to me because well... it's only a feebas.
the other reason why i didn't play unown G is because if i get sonic bladed, i'd easily just put up catty EX or a kiss with an energy on it, retreat and hit it again for 150, if it get's KOed no lost i'll up stream for another OHKO after discarding a couple top 5, and with all the energies in my deck again i'll Kiss for another Sally charged up and do it again.
I only lost to a sonic blade because i had not other pokemon and no energies, i would've never been sonic bladed if i at least called for one friend or got a kiss with a rowan and therefore the game would've been over if i just had one kiss...
My friend who played the same list as me, he played 4 GG in his swiss and won all of them, his only lost was to me, so what do you say about that? the majority of the 4 players he beat were in the top 8
and another thing, GG doesn't OHKO everything, it can actually only one hit KO at max 2 things. Against my list it can only OHKO well actually only just one. and that's a Kiss, take your first prize and you'll only OHKO well... nothing after that. Kiss has 120 HP with resistance to fighting so you have to flip 4 prizes to OHKO a Kiss. If you sonic blade a Kiss, you'll be lucky to live next turn. Kiss will take your stantler and if it doesn't, your stantler's gonna have 30 HP on it after Kiss and it'll be the firs thing to be brought down. even if you bring down a Sally Ex what makes you think there's not gonna be a lot of energies in my discard to OHKO you with a delcatty EX? or matter fact a another charged Sally EX? Sally is an EX so even if i take 2 prizes and you take one of my Sally and a Kiss you'll never be down on prizes so your scrambles are useless and i play 4 beaches anyways how do you really keep up? read my final match it took him 5 turns to get me in locked, and if i got heads on one of those find a friend, the game would've been over. While you're at it, you might as well read round 6 all over again, HE was stalling, not me, i did my turn within 30 seconds, he took 5 minutes a turn because he was struggling to keep up, not misplay with a GG deck because he knew one misplay would cost him the match. i Finished all my matches in under 10 minutes so i never stalled. finally read my round 3 i lost because my friend knew i was playing this deck and teched in a crystal shard and you can personally ask him himself, he would've lost if he never had that card in his deck to begin with. Even with that tech, my friend with my deck list faced him in the final swiss round and beat my Friend's GG list. My friend with the GG list went to be 3rd the whole tourney.
P.S. i didn't play this deck to win, i played this deck because it was fun OHKOing everything and watching my opponents go
"he's got 6 energies on the field after turn 1!!!!"
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Throne0fLegends
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All this for Sally EX? ha. Anyways, you almost make it sound like that without GG or Mags there are no other decks that should even be thought of. Stop insulting people's ideas and creativity in trying to get around some of these powerful decks. Maybe your version isn't good, but the one I faced against and saw reach Top 8 twice with two different people using the same list sure wasn't bad at all. I was the one that faced Prime in round 3 and yes I teched in the shard to stop him. If I didn't topdeck that shard, I would of lost the match. You can comment all you want on how bad I am at playing GG and believe what you want but this hasn't been the first time that creative decks are made to stop powerful soon-to-be archetypes in the metagame. In fact, it happens every year, so imo Sally EX is a good start in shaking up the gameplay. Keep it up.
chriscobi634
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what the heck is the THOY engine?
Omega_Prime
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Mine is the claydol engine, rowans to discourage GG plays to telepass it
How about we have a game on red shark so you can see my deck before you make some assumptions that my deck sucks and don't go putting in shards just because you know i'm playing Sally
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play me dude!!!
chriscobi634
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you didn't wreck anything. I didn't think Cloyster D or Dugtrio were needed Vs. Magmortar. I guess I was wrong. I am human, not GOD like Magmortar is believed to be in certain areas of this country.
I haven't tested it vs. Gallade to give a response on that. But again Psychic lock can be a pain, that's all that deck has on other decks.
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Let Fire Fall
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First Flygon ex PK....now this
I guess everything is a counter to the metagame now. It's weird how you don't see any of those decks winning though.
I guess everything is a counter to the metagame now. It's weird how you don't see any of those decks winning though.
Omega_Prime
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Good game, it was nice playing you, too bad we didn't get to the GG match up yet, we'll play tomorrow. hope you got a good glipse of my deck.
Now on to a new deck for regionals!
Ho Megas Alexandros
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Ex's Dont Counter Gallade/magmortar Sorry
Omega_Prime
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Would you like to have a game?
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Ho Megas Alexandros
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If that's some Canadian way of challenging me to a duel, then I accept.
Omega_Prime
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If you want to judge me, don't judge me because i'm Canadian, Judge me by our game
I never said anything about Sally EX countering GG and Mag, i'm only saying that it has good match ups, if you tech in a shard than who are you trying to impress?
I already PMed you with my e-mail so we can carry this on MSN but if you didn't notice
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I never said anything about Sally EX countering GG and Mag, i'm only saying that it has good match ups, if you tech in a shard than who are you trying to impress?
I already PMed you with my e-mail so we can carry this on MSN but if you didn't notice
[email protected]
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