meganium45
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It also appears you are missing Texas (unreported)
Vince
Vince
states attendence? 2009
- Thread starter ncpicachufan2000
- Start date
East Coast Bias!
Where's California?
(don't answer that literally)
GREAT job, Ryan!
I will be looking forward to when you get TX & CA in at least, plus any others. This is a heck of a chart.
Goin' down to Texas, where you can't see the top of their hats...
--Daniel Amos
Where's California?
(don't answer that literally)
GREAT job, Ryan!
I will be looking forward to when you get TX & CA in at least, plus any others. This is a heck of a chart.
Goin' down to Texas, where you can't see the top of their hats...
--Daniel Amos
I'm proud of the MA numbers, no doubt. Some of those MA people at States also: were league leaders, drove younger players to the event, taught younger players strategy and helped them with their decks, judged other events, introduced younger players to the game or by example made them want to play. OP - MA = something lame and missing its head.
You can ask for more, for sure.
But, my take is this, as a guy who remembers the 15+ shutout debacle. We already have:
- OP staff that love, understand, appreciate and do not fear the MA.
- As you say, extra invites.
- Equal trips and prizes.
- Overwhelmingly the bulk of OP staff attention when it comes to answering questions, tuning people's whining, rethinking/adjusting OP procedures/ranking/scheduling and serving up earned penalties (er, we don't want THAT kind of attention).
I'm not saying "don't ask". Start a thread somewhere else and think through what you want. I am saying, see the big picture -- what we already have as MA players and realistically what we can expect.
Ask not what your Pokemon can do for you, but what you can do for your Pokemon.
--TC Sensei
bullados
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Whoops, you're right. Texas, Iowa, and two from Mexico from the first weekend. California, New York, South Carolina, Maryland, 2 Mexico, and Alberta are all that's left from the second weekend. I'll update completely when I get off work today.
DarkStar20
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As if the number wasn't awesome enough, it was a really fun tournament as well! BDS sure
knows how to run a huge party! I can only look forward to helping him grow this Oregon Group
over the years to come.
But now I guess it's time to look forward, how about 400 at NW Regionals??!!
-Jason
dark::colorless20)elekid_957
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^i can't wait to stay up til 8:00 in the morning with >400 peoples... 0.0.. sometimes i wish we didn't have quiiite that many peoples..
bullados
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Code:
State: Jr / Sr / Ma = Total (last year) (%growth)
Indiana: 18 / 22 / 59 = 99 (10/7/28 = 45) (80 / 214 / 111 = [B]120[/B])
Pennsylvania: 32 / 25 / 71 = 128 (16/18/29 = 63) (100 / 38.9 / 145 = [B]103[/B])
Nevada: 14 / 9 / 45 = 68 (9/10/17 = 36) (55.6 / -10 / 164.7 = [B]88.9[/B])
British Columbia: 27 / 24 / 51 = 102 (22/21/20 = 63) (22.7 / 14.3 / 155 = [B]61.9[/B])
New Hampshire: 31 / 28 / 47 = 106 (22/16/30 = 68) (40.9 / 75 / 56.7 = [b]55.9[/b])
Washington: 52 / 63 / 94 = 209 (37/34/68 = 139) (40.5 / 85.2 / 38.2 = [b]50.4[/b])
North Carolina: 19 / 27 / 64 = 110 (18/23/35 = 76) (5.56 / 17.4 / 82.9 = [B]44.7[/B])
Arizona: 16 / 26 / 53 = 95 (17/16/35 = 68) (-5.88 / 62.5 / 51.4 = [B]39.7[/B])
Wisconsin: 21 / 22 / 46 = 89 (16/22/29 = 67) (31.25 / 0 / 58.6 = [B]32.8[/B])
Kentucky: 14 / 17 / 50 = 81 (13/20/31 = 64) (7.69 / -15 / 61.3 = [B]26.5[/B])
Colorado: 26 / 28 / 51 = 105 (24/32/37 = 93) (8.33 / -12.5 / 37.8 = [B]12.9[/B])
Virginia: 41 / 45 / 58 = 144 (45/39/47 = 131) (-8.89 / 15.4 / 23.4 = [B]9.92[/B])
Louisiana: 12 / 14 / 25 = 51 (10/12/25 = 47) (20 / 16.7 / 0 = [B]8.5[/B])
New Jersey: 18 / 23 / 58 = 99 (18/35/44 = 97) (0 / -34.3 / 31.8 = [B]2.06[/B])
Tennessee: 23 / 28 / 37 = 88 (29/31/29 = 89) (-20.7 / -9.67 / 27.6 = [B]-1.12[/B])
Ontario: 21 / 24 / 46 = 91 (24/27/43 = 94) (-12.5 / -11.1 / 6.98 = [B]-3.19[/B])
Utah: 15 / 27 / 64 = 106 (18/30/62 = 110) (-16.7 / -10 / 3.23 = [B]-3.63[/B])
Minnesota: 16 / 21 / 33 = 70 (19/29/28 = 76) (-15.8 / -27.6 / 17.9 = [B]-7.89[/B])
Rhode Island: 12 / 17 / 20 = 49 (20/20/19 = 59) (-40 / -.15 / 5.26 = [b]-16.9[/b])
Georgia: 19 / 35 / 49 (1) = 104 (33/30/69 = 132) (-42.4 / 16.7 / -28.99 = [b]-21.2[/b])
[B]Texas: 42 / 39 / 109 = 190 (26/36/77 = 139) (61.5 / 8.33 / 41.6 = [I]36.69[/I])[/B]Jr: 489 last year: 446; 9.64% growth
Sr: 564 Last year: 508; 11.0% growth
Ma: 1130 Last year: 802; 40.9% growth
Total: 2183 Last year: 1756; 24.3% growth
As expected, Texas has huge numbers, and pushed the Juniors up almost to the 10% mark. The Masters are still leading the pack through week 1. And that 24.3 is still a stellar growth amount, even though it got *dwarfed* by the second weekend. Still, I don't think anybody outside of Georgia and Rhode Island are complaining about their attendance figures this year compared to last.
Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:
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State: Jr / Sr / Ma = Total (Last Year) (% Growth)
Quebec: 11 / 13 / 41 = 65 [B]FIRST EVER STATE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!![/B]
Maine: 25 / 11 / 39 = 75 (10/5/11 = 26) (150 / 120 / 255 = [B]188[/B])
New Mexico: 21 / 22 / 69 = 112 (10/17/36 = 63) (110 / 29.4 / 91.7 = [B]77.8[/B]
Oregon: 109 / 70 / 157 = 336 (57/45/97 = 199) (91.2 / 55.6 / 61.9 = [B]68.8[/B])
Kansas: 33 / 24 / 63 (1) = 121 (25/15/33 = 73) (32 / 60 / 90.9 = [B]65.7[/B])
Ohio: 30 / 32 / 87 = 149 (27/17/51 = 95) (11.1 / 88.2 / 70.6 = [B]56.8[/B])
Missouri: 42 / 45 / 71 = 158 (29/28/52 = 109) (44.8 / 60.7 / 36.5 = [B]44.95[/B])
Idaho: 19 / 17 / 35 (1) = 72 (12/13/27 = 52) (58.3 / 30.8 / 29.6 = [B]38.5[/B])
Mississippi: 22 / 25 / 47 = 94 (20/26/22 = 68) (10 / -3.84 / 113.6 = [B]38.2[/B])
Florida: 62 / 63 / 110 (1) = 236 (47/45/85 = 177) (31.9 / 40 / 29.4 = [B]33.3[/B])
Delaware: 19 / 16 / 46 = 81 (14/20/30 = 64) (35.7 / -20 / 53.3 = [B]26.6[/B])
Oklahoma: 16 / 26 / 73 = 115 (17/23/53 = 93) (-5.88 / 13.0 / 37.7 = [B]23.7[/B])
Puerto Rico: 4 / 4 / 13 = 21 (1/8/8 = 17) (300 / -50 / 62.5 = [B]23.5[/B])
Illinois: 41 / 47 / 77 = 165 (38/36/65 = 139) (7.9 / 30.6 / 18.4 = [B]18.7[/B])
Michigan: 26 / 27 / 55 = 108 (21/30/49 = 100) (23.8 / -10 / 12.2 = [B]8[/B])
Massachusetts: 29 / 35 / 68 = 132 (33/26/65 = 124) (-12.1 / 34.6 / 4.6 = [B]6.45[/B])
[B]California: 48 / 56 / 179 = 283 (39/53/111 = 203) (23.1 / 5.66 / 61.3 = [I]39.4[/I])
New York: 8 / 16 / 44 = 68 (22/27/40 = 89) (-63.6 / -40.7 / 10 = [I]-23.6[/I])[/B]Juniors: 565 Last Year: 422 % Growth: 33.9
Seniors: 549 Last Year: 434 % Growth: 26.4
Masters: 1274 Last Year: 835 % Growth: 52.6
Total: 2388 Last Year: 1691 % Growth: 41.2
As expected, California has a monster weekend, posting the second highest number in the entire United States. But New York was the true shocker of the week. It was the only State Championship of the weekend (reported thus far) that lost numbers. What's worse is that its percentage loss was the highest out of any State Championship in North America (reported thus far). I'm kinda wondering what happened in the 2nd largest city in North America to drop the attendance so much...
Total with 39 States reporting...
Juniors: 1054........Last Year: 868.......% Growth: 21.4
Seniors: 1113........Last Year: 942.......% Growth: 18.2
Masters: 2404........Last Year: 1637.......% Growth: 46.9
Total: 4571........Last Year: 3447.......% Growth: 32.6
Wow. Just, wow.
Weren't we dead just 5 years ago?
Over 2300 unique players (conservative estimate), and upwards of 4500 uniques. Even if half of the first week traveled in the second, that's still over 3300 unique players over two weekends. Heck, over two *days*.
Has any TCG ever seen this kind of tournament attendance? How about growth?
Yep, the franchise is pretty durn strong. I wonder if this 32% growth will hold through Regionals (I expect it will).
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Awesome job. I'd love to see your findings pasted into a front page article.
I'd like to see some of your other questions answered, but I'll take a stab at this one:
Only mostly dead. True love and a miracle pill made with bacon brought us back to storm the castle.
I'd like to see some of your other questions answered, but I'll take a stab at this one:
Only mostly dead. True love and a miracle pill made with bacon brought us back to storm the castle.
Chairman Kaga
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Aardvarkvcg
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Maryland States
Maryland had 127 players up from 97 last year!!!
28 Juniors
33 Seniors
66 Masters
Thank you to everyone who helped out and everyone who came to play.
Maryland had 127 players up from 97 last year!!!
28 Juniors
33 Seniors
66 Masters
Thank you to everyone who helped out and everyone who came to play.
bullados
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Code:
State: Jr / Sr / Ma = Total (Last Year) (% Growth)
Quebec: 11 / 13 / 41 = 65 [B]FIRST EVER STATE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!![/B]
Maine: 25 / 11 / 39 = 75 (10/5/11 = 26) (150 / 120 / 255 = [B]188[/B])
New Mexico: 21 / 22 / 69 = 112 (10/17/36 = 63) (110 / 29.4 / 91.7 = [B]77.8[/B]
Oregon: 109 / 70 / 157 = 336 (57/45/97 = 199) (91.2 / 55.6 / 61.9 = [B]68.8[/B])
Kansas: 33 / 24 / 63 (1) = 121 (25/15/33 = 73) (32 / 60 / 90.9 = [B]65.7[/B])
Ohio: 30 / 32 / 87 = 149 (27/17/51 = 95) (11.1 / 88.2 / 70.6 = [B]56.8[/B])
Missouri: 42 / 45 / 71 = 158 (29/28/52 = 109) (44.8 / 60.7 / 36.5 = [B]44.95[/B])
California: 48 / 56 / 179 = 283 (39/53/111 = 203) (23.1 / 5.66 / 61.3 = [b]39.4[/b])
Idaho: 19 / 17 / 35 (1) = 72 (12/13/27 = 52) (58.3 / 30.8 / 29.6 = [B]38.5[/B])
Mississippi: 22 / 25 / 47 = 94 (20/26/22 = 68) (10 / -3.84 / 113.6 = [B]38.2[/B])
Florida: 62 / 63 / 110 (1) = 236 (47/45/85 = 177) (31.9 / 40 / 29.4 = [B]33.3[/B])
Delaware: 19 / 16 / 46 = 81 (14/20/30 = 64) (35.7 / -20 / 53.3 = [B]26.6[/B])
Oklahoma: 16 / 26 / 73 = 115 (17/23/53 = 93) (-5.88 / 13.0 / 37.7 = [B]23.7[/B])
Puerto Rico: 4 / 4 / 13 = 21 (1/8/8 = 17) (300 / -50 / 62.5 = [B]23.5[/B])
Illinois: 41 / 47 / 77 = 165 (38/36/65 = 139) (7.9 / 30.6 / 18.4 = [B]18.7[/B])
Michigan: 26 / 27 / 55 = 108 (21/30/49 = 100) (23.8 / -10 / 12.2 = [B]8[/B])
Massachusetts: 29 / 35 / 68 = 132 (33/26/65 = 124) (-12.1 / 34.6 / 4.6 = [B]6.45[/B])
New York: 8 / 16 / 44 = 68 (22/27/40 = 89) (-63.6 / -40.7 / 10 = [b]-23.6[/b])
[B]South Carolina: 22 / 20 / 53 = 95 (19/20/40 = 79) (15.8 / 0 / 32.5 = [I]20.2[/I])
Maryland: 28 / 33 / 66 = 127 (24/25/47 = 96) (16.7 / 32 / 40.4 = [I]32.3[/I])
[/B]With 20 States reporting on the second weekend, our totals are:
Juniors: 615 Last Year: 467 % Growth: 31.7
Seniors: 602 Last Year: 479 % Growth: 25.7
Masters: 1393 Last Year: 922 % Growth: 51.0
Total: 2610 Last Year: 1868 % Growth: 39.7
Dunno why, but I'm a little bit underwhelmed by those numbers. I think I might have been spoiled by the runaway successes of the initial reportings that anything below them, to me, just doesn't look that great. I mean, it's amazing that we're seeing basically +20 to +40% increases pretty much across the board, and it's always nice to see some new SPTs come around. But, still. Triple digits just doesn't have the same ring for SPTs anymore. Not since the 200 barrier has ben reached, and the average attendance for the second week sits at 131 people. I dunno. That 40% is a nice number to see.
Total with 41States reporting...
Juniors: 1104........Last Year: 911.......% Growth: 21.2
Seniors: 1166........Last Year: 987.......% Growth: 18.1
Masters: 2523........Last Year: 1724.......% Growth: 46.3
Total: 4793........Last Year: 3622.......% Growth: 32.3
Not much of a change from earlier in the week. Which, IMO, is a good thing. 32% increase over last year's total numbers is nothing short of miraculous. If we see an increase like this in the size of Nationals, we'd see these numbers for this year:
Juniors: 248
Seniors: 243
Masters: 784
Total: 1275 (or 1252, depending on how you want to crunch the numbers)
Does that not strike anybody as obscene yearly growth? Especially in this economic climate?
could the same-day platinum release event at nintendo world be (...at least partially) responsible for the dip in NY's numbers? especially the jr/sr decline...
'mom
'mom
Godzfirefly
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Considering the fact that Pokemon tourneys are free, it is entirely possible that the economic climate might have encouraged the increase. After all, economic depressions are...well...depressing. People need reasonably priced entertainment, and in many cases Pokemon is (or can be) that stress-release they need.
meganium45
Active Member
Great job! Fascinating Numbers...
I wonder if the states players correlate to the league players in the area?
A lot more work, but a fascinating question.
Vince
I wonder if the states players correlate to the league players in the area?
A lot more work, but a fascinating question.
Vince
ilikegengar
Member
Bullados,
thank you for all the numbers work. It's fascinating and exciting to see all the Pokemon growth. So, when is the USA going to get a Pokemon Center? and I vote for it not being in NYC. How about some place where you can actually park a car?
again, thanks!
thank you for all the numbers work. It's fascinating and exciting to see all the Pokemon growth. So, when is the USA going to get a Pokemon Center? and I vote for it not being in NYC. How about some place where you can actually park a car?
again, thanks!
bullados
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Chicago!!! 3rd largest city, 2nd largest airport, two airports, virtually at the population center of the country.
(i hv cold, nutty nutty day)
meganium45
Active Member
Jeez, you would think somewhere in California, Oregon, Washington or Florida would be a better pick, given these number.
I wish for STL too Ryan, but, hey, we'll take our "consolation prize" of Nationals.
Vince
I wish for STL too Ryan, but, hey, we'll take our "consolation prize" of Nationals.
Vince
momma_june
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^ Are you kidding!?! Your State numbers were nothing to sneeze at. Good job :thumb:
actually it was 181 masters. did anyone get more masters than we did?