Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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aziz how did u like my marth .... o_O' ... i think i'm a bit of DKEN now not like all the other times lol ... also i was fuxing with u about my falco being better than yours lol .... but my fox and marth are too good FTW =P ... also u and jaden are really crazy .... hahahaha ... u should try to get us to stay over me jesus and ray so we can practice for the KF tourney .... ALSO GREAT NEWS ANOTHER GAUNTLET ALREADY O_O' i was at NYCLAN YESTERDAY ^_^ i'm in the halo league i also play that very competitive .. but anyway the staff of nyclan said that it was said on friday night that its scheduled for march 10th ... unless changed thats the date ^_^ so yea ............... DOLPHIN SLASH FTW!!!!!
 
i played ken and mana yesterday

i dont ever wanna play kens marth or manas falco

but i wanna play kens fox tho

me and my friends beat ken and his sister in a team match (his sisters pretty good tho)

my 2 friends took 4th place in teams at after beating mana and kira in teams XD
 
No, it's definitely a different rate of firing. I've tried it, just had a Falco stand there mashing B compared to shffing it as best he could... end result was that it was relatively easy to dodge lasers until the cows came home, but I physically couldn't dodge the ground-B-mashing variety. I don't even concentrate on the Falco so much as the lasers (at least when there's a safe distance between me and Falco) when I'm dodging them.

Whoops, I misread. ;x

I thought you said 'it's easier to dodge a Falco SHL'ing in place rather than a Falco SHL'ing while moving.'

Ground lasers are faster; people just use SHL because you can approach with it and it doesn't lag. You should fulljump over ground-lasers into fair -> grab if it's bothering you.

Phazon Elite said:

LOL

GaaRa said:
aziz how did u like my marth .... o_O' ... i think i'm a bit of DKEN now not like all the other times lol ... also i was fuxing with u about my falco being better than yours lol .... but my fox and marth are too good FTW =P ... also u and jaden are really crazy .... hahahaha ... u should try to get us to stay over me jesus and ray so we can practice for the KF tourney .... ALSO GREAT NEWS ANOTHER GAUNTLET ALREADY O_O' i was at NYCLAN YESTERDAY ^_^ i'm in the halo league i also play that very competitive .. but anyway the staff of nyclan said that it was said on friday night that its scheduled for march 10th ... unless changed thats the date ^_^ so yea ............... DOLPHIN SLASH FTW!!!!!

lol awesome news man.. more tourneys for us. :p

Your Fox isn't too hot anymore dude my techchasing is waaaay too good for that shine crap. =P

Marth is your best char and to be honest, I need to practice more against Marths (I do think my Falcon > your Marth no matter what happened yesterday) but I want to play your Marth with Falco. Pillaring Marth is actually REALLY easy; and you've yet to beat my Falco so ha. xP

Also I beat the crap out of Jaden like 3 times in a row after you left, I even 3 (out of 3) stocked his Peach at Yoshi's which shut him up haha. The only stage he can beat me at is FD and he makes it sound like he's gonna get FD EVERY match of EVERY tourney, which is dead wrong. Falcon gets owned by Peach on FD cuz of chaingrab, on other stages it isn't nearly as hard to combo ESPECIALLY with platforms. =)

Also nice job viet, take it to ken (& sisters XD). How'd you do in singles with them? Mana's Falco *****. ;o
 
Ground lasers are faster; people just use SHL because you can approach with it and it doesn't lag. You should fulljump over ground-lasers into fair -> grab if it's bothering you.

Granted, nobody ever uses ground lasers. It's just funny that people intentionally use the one that can be dodged all day because it's easier to "advance" when in general I take more damage (including how the fight goes right afterwards) from ground-lasers than air lasers.
 
that match was a friendly XD

but in the actual tourney, got beaten by neals ICs (i cant play ICs or Jiggs) and i got taken out my friends CF (i didnt feel like going falco against him 3rd round so i lost)

in doubles, my friends and I lost to mana and kira and then lost to my 2 friends who got 4th and beat mana and kira but lost to DSF and DC

but its was cool, since i got a whole bunch of friendlies in
 
yo chicken salad aziz chicken salad !!!!!!! lol

but yea i haven't been playing too much with my fox ... but i don't remember going a one on one with my fox vs, any of ur chars that day lol ... also i have beaten ur falco ... i have it on tape .... on more then one occasion lol HAHAHAHA =P ... but yea i am tryin to get raymond to practice up more cuz he plays smart but too too slow and that hurts =\ ... but we will see how we do at the tourney

also viet. u lucky SOB i wish i could play the people u have played lol ... but yea i wish me and hax could go play u and ur friends ^_^
 
Though, speaking of the Falco laser thing, and something I was able to do but highly inconsistently while dodging them, I do have one question (just when you thought Marril was a know-it-all who has every minutia of the game memorized)... is there any specific timing to power shield reflect something?
 
Ground lasers are amazingly easy to dodge (they lag, too) with a simple fulljump. If you actually SHL fast enough you can rack 20% on the average high-tier character before they come close to you. It also sets up for a dair, which results in pillaring.

Are you implying that ground laser > SHL? LOL.
 
Marril, the projectile has to be "inside your shield range" without actually having hit you yet.

In other words, it's like a Third Strike parry or GGXX Roman Cancel, very small window.
 
Are you implying that ground laser > SHL? LOL.

No. I'm just saying that, if Falco's standing away from you shooting at you, with nobody trying to close the distance, it's harder to dodge simply mashing the B button on the ground compared to when Falco's shffing the things.
 
well it is harder to dodge ground lasers if youre across FD

otherwie just jump above any SHLing falcos and attack them (like with marth)
 
Marril, the projectile has to be "inside your shield range" without actually having hit you yet.

In other words, it's like a Third Strike parry or GGXX Roman Cancel, very small window.

Cool, I never knew how to do that...

Sweet, I need to try that out.
 
I forgot to reply to most of your posts before, had to go..

Marril said:
Though, speaking of the Falco laser thing, and something I was able to do but highly inconsistently while dodging them, I do have one question (just when you thought Marril was a know-it-all who has every minutia of the game memorized)...

:eek:

Marril said:
is there any specific timing to power shield reflect something?

lol yeah, it's pretty much what tag said. Every character has it different too because their shield sizes are different. Mr. G&W has a hard time reflecting unless his shield hasn't been hit at all; his shield is the smallest in the game, I think.

Marril said:
No. I'm just saying that, if Falco's standing away from you shooting at you, with nobody trying to close the distance, it's harder to dodge simply mashing the B button on the ground compared to when Falco's shffing the things.

It is, but ground lasers don't stop jumps at all and fulljumped sex kicks would just own you. Ground lasers do tend to get about 3-4 hits but SHL actually stops them from fulljumping in front of you hence they're much better; you also don't suffer lag and you can approach with them. Lasers are probably Falco's best move, without them he's so similar to many other characters.

EDIT: haha Brian but you didn't beat my Falco that day. =P My Falco got a lot better, I know how to avoid shieldgrabbing and other stuff now. I'm going to sleep, later~
 
The only thing I hate about Falco is that his dair takes absolutely no skill at all.

Drives me absolutely crazy when I lose lives to utterly subpar Falcos because they get off cheap ledge dairs.
 
I dunno, it must take some skill, as I haven't bothered to practice it at all (I don't like playing as Falco) and I can't use it to save my life.

It really is painful when I whiff Counter on Falco though... usually I only use it when I know it's going to hit, but on the odd instance it misses... pain. I really wish Marth had an aerial c-c-c-combo breaker but alas he doesn't have one that helps very much.
 
Lol. You're not the only 1 who hates insufficient Falcos Tag. I got cheaped out by one recently actually. But his lack of skill killed him in the long run, as he got 2 kills and only 15 or 16% on me after which he died. Yawn, bored again. I keep downing my friends Stephen and Trevor. Trev uses Yoshi and Fox, whereas Stephen uses Falco (he's the "cheap" Falco I was complaining about earlier.) and now there's almost no competition out here. Someone save me, it's Illinois! The state that lacks any decent Melee players!!! :eek: :nonono:
 
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Tagrineth said:
The only thing I hate about Falco is that his dair takes absolutely no skill at all.

Drives me absolutely crazy when I lose lives to utterly subpar Falcos because they get off cheap ledge dairs.

How'd they actually get you off the ledge, if they're subpar?

Marril said:
It really is painful when I whiff Counter on Falco though... usually I only use it when I know it's going to hit, but on the odd instance it misses... pain.

I thought I went over this one already; Marth's weight is crap. Falco can dair utilt utilt dair shine dair fsmash KO EASILY on Marth's. Why are you taking risks like that when you KNOW what's going to happen in you miss?

Marril said:
I really wish Marth had an aerial c-c-c-combo breaker but alas he doesn't have one that helps very much.

wow you must be joking. I can honestly conclude you're NOT playing Marth correctly at this point.

A single grab on Falco can lead to death, and shdoublefair into shfairdair is good on practically any character; one of THE best aerial kill combos in the game... only overshadowed by say, CF's.

Marth seriously has a top-tier aerial game, for you to deny that is ****ing stupid. I'm sorry if I'm rude but at this point, I'm kind of amazed by your claims.
 
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