Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

The So called machine? Why such a big deal?

Well, the fact is that he DIDN'T play ZRE, and deck judgment is just as important as playing ability.

I know firsthand! Ask anyone in Florida - I pick the wrong decks at almost every major tournament. I like to think of myself as a very, very good player, but I don't yet have the knowledge to know what to play and when to play it.

Point being, that playing for 12 hours with a single deck is one thing - but as far as I am concerned, Jeremy is the best player in the game, because being great takes more than that. T.Y. is a great player, but I hate the attitude that some people are taking... "well, he WOULD have won IF" - bottom line; he didn't win. He didn't win because he made a mistake.

I am not taking anything away from him, he's a great player. But yiu can not call him the best in the game. He's not the world champion.
 
I doubt he made a mistake. He just faced a deck that had his weakness and I doubt anyone could have pulled it out without a bunch of added luck. The world champion isn't the best in the game IMHO. The World Champion does not face everyone in the world and beats them. Many people like to say who is the best player in the world, but I don't think you can.
 
Yamato is not the best player in the World. He did not make the right deck choice for Worlds and that is a mistake. I know people are saying if he played ZRE he would have won, but he didn't.
 
Winning worlds doesn't make you the best in the game...
It's really easy to simply get eliminated due to matchups, and if there was a grass deck that made it half-way far, nidoqueen would've been slaughtered.

Just because you win once doesn't make you the best. The best player is one who consistently beats his opposition, consistently... consistency is the only way to measure a player's skill in a random game like pokemon.

I can go into a poker tournament, get some good luck and win... does that make me the best? No way, it's about consistency.

There is no real way to tell who is the best player, but if you watched Yamato's player rank in Japan, he had something like 1 loss in two years or something ridiculous... THAT is consistency. Winning worlds and then going into the t8, playing the best for 12 hours and consistently beating opposition, even deckst hat should have a very easy deck vs ZRE.

Who is the best player? Impossible to say, but if anyone gets close to that assertion of someone being the best, they'd better be CONSISTENT in winning, all over... let's face it, Jeremy doesn't have a perfect season, no one in the states even comes close to that, but Yamato had two incredible seasons in Japan, and I'm sure Japan is an extremely difficult place to play at.

Winning worlds does NOT make you the best.

edit: Criminal nails it on the head. TO be the best, you need to be consistently awesome and good... the closest player that comes to that point that we have seen is Yamato...
 
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pez you FREAK, i mean absolutely no disprespect to Jeremy when i say this but its pretty common knowledge that anyone that has skills can be the world champion on any given day. There are plenty of variables that give certain players an edge, such as flips, topdecks, and more importantly, matchups. Yeah, choosing the best deck for an event is pretty key, but its not everything. Nobody goes through an event without making a single mistake, its not humanly possible, Jeremy even admitted to making many in his report, you shouldn't expect anyone, even the world champ, to be mistake free. The fact that Yamato went undefeated at Japanese Nats AND the World Championships last year, then this year turned around and took a 7-1 record (his only loss being a concession to Go) and top 8'ing Worlds this year again, only losing to an autoloss should give Yamato the edge as the best player in the world. To me, and i'm sure many other players, the best player is the most consistant one. And without a doubt Yamato is the most consistant player in this game, he is my pick as the best player in the world today.
 
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I doubt he made a mistake. He just faced a deck that had his weakness and I doubt anyone could have pulled it out without a bunch of added luck.
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Ross was the one to eliminate Yamato, and I talk to Ross on a fairly regular basis. Let's get the facts straight so you can get over your hero worship, Prime. Yamato used the incorrect kind of preevos in his Ludicargo deck to face Ross's deck, as Ross can Rock Tm and the Spinning Tail damage will murder some Lotads or even Lombres if he gets off enough Spinning Tails. However, the preevos he used were good against Medicham. However, I'm not sure that was his intention because if he was gunning for anti-Cham. If he had been, why didn't he use Ninetales (he did use 1 Wobbuffet, but that really isn't enough) or something of the sort? Yamato was using a bizarre list and I'm sure he had an explanation for everything but that right there is definitely one thing he could have done better on, IMO. Secondly, Yamato did misplay against Ross. In Game 1 he played too many basics down (I think before a hand-shuffling card, seemingly the only situation in which it would make sense) because, although he saw Ross's Larvitar (and then he should have assumed that Dark Tyranitar was coming, and both specialize in bench damage), he played too many down and that led to his downfall. This is what I got from Ross after talking to him when he returned from Worlds, and that's about as close as you can get to absolute proof. Yamato's human like the rest of us, and eventually he would misplay. It's even possible, though highly unlikely, that was his first mistake of the day. But it was a misplay, and he paid the price for it.
 
Prime said:
I doubt he made a mistake. He just faced a deck that had his weakness and I doubt anyone could have pulled it out without a bunch of added luck. The world champion isn't the best in the game IMHO. The World Champion does not face everyone in the world and beats them. Many people like to say who is the best player in the world, but I don't think you can.
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Yamato wasn't necessarily weak to RossC's crazy 1-of-everything deck. Ross knew how to beat LudiCargo and did so. Yamato on the otherhand was kind of like me when I faced Ross in T32. He was probably saying to himself, "What the heck is this!?" Ross played a semi-rogue-ish, crazy deck that caught some by surprize, including Yamato. That's NOT a mistake, just a somewhat brilliant move by RossC (aka Pidgeotto Trainer).

Yamato is elite. I'll make ANYONE a $100 bet that if we put 10 of the top players in the world side-by-side, watched them play for a few hours, then voted who's the best, Yamato would win, HANDS DOWN!

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And like SuperWooper said, the non-Raindish Lotads/Lombres WAS a mistake, although small in my oppinion. I can just read RossC's mind when he saw that: "Man, my Spinning Tails can beat that deck!"
 
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ryanvergel said:
TO be the best
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I agree with you there!! lol

Darn I don't think I can change any of your opinions, so I just say let's wait til next year :(
 
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Jeremy, on Sunday, you were the best! However, Yamato got a head start on you for the 2005-06 season and he's currently the best in THIS season, AND voted best-all-time so far.

Congrats on a job well done. The semis with Pablo really was the Championship match (because of the two Tytar decks auto-losing to Nidoqueen/Milotic). Great deck choice!
 
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SteveP said:
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And like SuperWooper said, the non-Raindish Lotads/Lombres WAS a mistake, although small in my oppinion. I can just read RossC's mind when he saw that: "Man, my Spinning Tails can beat that deck!"
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I playtested Ludi vs the metagame for a while, and I must say that his choice in Lotad was correct (VS t2 and non-dragonite/rocklock decks), but his choice in lombre was incorrect (Rain dish is the play here). He had a scewed interpretation of our metagame, overestimating the amount of T2 there was. The only obvious misplay to me was that he didn't play Rain Dish Lombre. Other than that, he did great.
 
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I playtested Ludi vs the metagame for a while, and I must say that his choice in Lotad was correct (VS t2 and non-dragonite/rocklock decks), but his choice in lombre was incorrect (Rain dish is the play here). He had a scewed interpretation of our metagame, overestimating the amount of T2 there was. The only obvious misplay to me was that he didn't play Rain Dish Lombre. Other than that, he did great.
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Disagree. Lotad-Raindish is always the best choice. Any Lightning deck will 1HKO the Ludi line. Other than MedichamEX, every T2 hits 50-or-more second turn. Plus, Rock-lock was still a minor threat at Worlds, so Lotad-Raindish SHOULD have been the proper choice.

We can argue Yamato's deck construction and/or metagaming skills, but his playing skills are equalled by few, if any, players we know of (except maybe that mysterious "Rich" guy :smile: ).
 
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Rich is the Best plaeyer in the world, they prolly ahve him locked in soem dungeon forcign him ot comeup with the best decks the dotn even feed him they just have like IVs all over his body.

none of yall knwo what your talkign about i hate to say, Yamato is a machien yes but a practiced machine he is really just a Chess player in pokemn players body he sees turns ahead, there are ways of throwign this off however, admin, holding crucial cards (Strngth charm , Drk nrgy, etc) this throws of his math and what not, he played Ludi for obv reasons and made the right choice. Ludi is the most conistant dekc out there. ive seen hiss hwole deck i watched many of his games and pieced it together it ws ment to beat all of out decks ... However do you think he anticapated Bomb/TTAR? The dekc was very good , Yamato played no switch cards( i dotn know why) He playued 2 brineys thought. There was ntohign that he could do vs Ross liek ive said before he wasnt out played, he w sout decked, there was no way in a millin years ludi could beat that list of ross's trust me.
 
Venusaur said:
I agree with you there!! lol

Darn I don't think I can change any of your opinions, so I just say let's wait til next year :(
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You won worlds, and no one can take that away from you, if anyone says you're bad just show them you probably earned some 25K that day easily...

buuutttt, that doesn't take away from Yamato's near perfect record for two seasons, including winning last year's worlds
 
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