Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Tiers, anyone?

chriscobi634

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Besides the "lame" and "boring" format we are having there are still some tiers out there for decks.
I'll provide my list and then an analysis of each one of these decks and why I categorized them where I did.

Tier 1
Magmortar/Blaziken
Magmortar/Typhlosion
G/G
Gardy Tech

Tier 2
Tsunami or Hurricane or Gator (W/E you want to call it)
Banette
Blissey/Arcanine

Tier 3
Empoleon Variants
Monarchy
Rogues or SDs

Magmortar
IMHO, the bench hitting version of Magmortar is way better then the "tech" version of Magmortar. Which is the difference in the builds, Blaziken helps with bench hitting, Typhlosion helps discard DREs and Scrambles, not to mention they could throw in a Typhlosion D for the G/G match-up. The comeback factor is always a nice one. As there were very little comeback decks last year, which is one of the other things this game was missing. Now we have it with Magmortar.

Gardevoir
A more straight forward G/G will most likely be more consistent then the teched version of Gardy. But Gardy tech could pull some tricks to make up for the consistency factor. But it can only tech for so much, so probably staying to it's original design might be the best option.
The play of TGW, and Psychic Lock can cripple any deck that gives this deck a hard time. Oh, the irony. Bigger hitters, consistency and late game finisher really make this deck one of the best of all time. The numbers show it, too.

Tsunami
I was never really a believer of this deck until I saw Pooka run it with Claydol. Although, you might be doing the same attack over and over and over again, it's getting the OHKOs after OHKOs that makes this deck interesting. Only in tier 2 because of my bad Karma versus this deck when facing G/G, which is usually GG in the first few turns of every match I have played vs. G/G. Either bad prizes, horrible starting hand or opponent's godly start to my dismal start is what set this in Tier 2 in my list. It has a pretty good match-up vs. Magmortar, but a pretty bad one vs G/G.

Banette
Another deck that can consistently beat one of the tier 1, but loses to the other one. I'm not saying it has a auto-win vs. G/G but a very good one. But then a very bad one vs. Magmortar as well, so just like Tsunami this deck can make top cut or even win in the right metagame. Lunatone and Solrock have help with the consistency of getting Banettes in the discard, so it can keep hitting for 80. A truely T2 deck, which this format has very little off.

Blissey/Arcanine
Not having to fit both Holon Energy WP and Holon Energy FF because of Unown G really makes this deck a valuable choice. Being able to run a teched Cess. Crystal, Crystal Beach and Battle Frontier can make this deck tough to beat. Add a few Plus Powers and/or Strength Charms for the OHKO on those 130HP pokemon with Arcanine and you could surprise a lot of people. Not just with the Arcanine, but with the win.

Empoleon
The variant I like most with Empoleon is Claydol. Although Claydol has very little synergy with Empoelon, it's still a pretty good deck to play. Claydol helps with the consistency factor that drag on Empoleon before Claydol's appearance. The play of TGW, Supreme Command with the Lv. X and the sniping off one of your opponents key pokemon can be a very nasty play.

Monarchy
The deck has potential, but for some reason always falls short. I've always like the Synergy that has existed between Nidoking and Nidoqueen. This year it couldn't be any better. Nidoking's Poison Rub attack can be quite annoying, but also set up future KOs for your Nidoqueen. You have your searcher within the lines in Nidoqueen D, so no need to fit in a Claydol or Delcatty.

Thoughts or Comments?
 
Banette should be in tier 1,it can win vs magmortar if the right list is played.Its the hardest out of decks now to play correctly
 
Gardy LOCK is better than Magmortar.

Other than that, it looks about right.

It's nice to see some love towards Hurricane. Its a very under rated deck, that can do very well if played right, and in the right setting.
I agree that Hurricane could be tier 1 if it didn't have such a bad matchup to G&G. *oh well*
 
Banette should be in tier 1,it can win vs magmortar if the right list is played.Its the hardest out of decks now to play correctly

I agree. To back this up, look at JokerBoi's performance with it in FL (which doesn't have as good of players as the Midwest, but... (JKJK)).
 
I agree. To back this up, look at JokerBoi's performance with it in FL (which doesn't have as good of players as the Midwest, but... (JKJK)).

He won because everyone else played Gardy LOCK or some other version of G&G and he didn't play against Magmortar. (Not to take anything away from his win)
 
I agree. To back this up, look at JokerBoi's performance with it in FL (which doesn't have as good of players as the Midwest, but... (JKJK)).

There was loads and loads of GG played by good players in FL, and very few Magmortar. Banette absolutely folds to it and it is not a hard deck to play, come on people. Magmortar/Blaze is the best deck in the format.
 
He won because everyone else played Gardy LOCK or some other version of G&G and he didn't play against Magmortar. (Not to take anything away from his win)

He won because he studied the metagame hard and built the right deck. He's definatly an A game player bringing the right game but some previous times the wrong deck. This time his patience payed off. He earned it.

Anyway banette doesnt have that bad of a match-up against magmortar. I'd say those three are pretty balanced. While MOST games gallade beats magmortar, magmortar beats banette, and banette beats gallade the matches could go either way. I've had very close runs a lot of times with all three match-ups.
 
Not to diss DarthPika,but no way should hurricane be tier 1 over Banette.Hurricane is a good deck,but Hurricane folds mostly to every other kind of deck that could be played(DWD-Vire-Blissey). If u say so, then Hurricane would be like Banette since Hurricane could win if the play field was mostly Magmortar,even then Magmortar which plays FF still can take Hurricane.

Banette is more consitant than Hurricane and what won states shows that.

Scizor:how isnt it not hard,when to drop nrg,magmortar matchup is mind bongling,how to recover if ure down,how to lock in a cessation or beach,the best line.Its not easy.

PS:where did Blissey/Arcanine come from??
 
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PS:where did Blissey/Arcanine come from??

IDK, I've just always liked that deck, I just don't have the cards to build it to see if it's worthy of the Meta-game. Even if it's not good, it's a fun deck to play. Possibly could do well with the right list, in the right meta-game. Like in a meta-game where G/G has to tech BF instead of Windstorms for Delcatty decks.
 
IDK, I've just always liked that deck, I just don't have the cards to build it to see if it's worthy of the Meta-game. Even if it's not good, it's a fun deck to play. Possibly could do well with the right list, in the right meta-game. Like in a meta-game where G/G has to tech BF instead of Windstorms for Delcatty decks.

Liking it doesn't qualify it for anything great.

I agree with Bannette being a Tier 1 though. It's soo amazing. <33
 
Tier 1:

Gallade variants: While the absolute best Mag list may have an edge over the absolute best Gallade list (highly debatable), I feel that it is so much easier for GG/Furret to adapt to any sudden metagame change, and as a result is the most flexible, most effective, and outright best deck in the format right now.

Magmortar variants: In the right metagame, this deck is by far better than GG/Furret. It has random issues versus a solid water list (debatable), and random fits of inconsistency, but other than that, it just absolutely plasters the right field.

Banette variants: Perhaps only by the virtue of massive amounts of Garde does this deck make the top tier; however, it's faster than Magmortar or Gallade, and has more room to "turn two donk" than almost any other build. However, it has tons of issues versus random decks and even Magmortar.

Tier 2:

Blissey variants: I don't even have to say why. Blissey is still a great deck, and one of the most consistent out there. Just by misfortune did it get knocked off of the top tier by a bad Gallade matchup.

Infernape: top level Infernapes give Magmortar a **** of a game, and I actually feel pretty confident that it wins the matchup. Why? Because I know Infernape! It also crushes Banette, most random rogue, and gives Blissey/Gallade decent games; however, Blissey is a 40/60 matchup without Sableye, and Gallade is difficult regardless of how you play it.

Feraligatr: good fire matchup, decent Banette game, but minor Blissey issues and MANY Gallade concerns make it near the bottom of tier two, IMO. It might be higher ranked, but personal bias allows me to put it below Ape. :)

Tier 3:

-Pretty much every other standard deck, such as Mario, Empoleon, etc

Tier X:

-Rogue and SD's. In my opinion, it's wrong to lump these into any tier, because they are of various qualities.
 
Liking it doesn't qualify it for anything great.

I agree with Bannette being a Tier 1 though. It's soo amazing. <33

look even Cyrus put it higher then me. Iron Chef Master FTW. I just like the Arcanine version the best. Which I believe has the best synergy with Blissey.

Stack a Blisey with 3 energy, attach for turn and bring up Arcanine for a big hit. Holon FF gets rid of horrible weakness. Unown G can help against Sonic Blade, what's not to like? A lot of room for any sort of techs.
 
Ape dosent crush Banette,it does 80-90 quick but Banette would win the matchup just cause it can kill ure draw supply and lock in a beach if possible. Ape plays warps,but Banette plays more and will get the game if they have to bring out Delcatty ex. the machup would be 55/45 Banettes favor from my testing.

Its a way easier matchup than Magmortar and that matchup is 40/60 to 45/55 in Mortars favor.
 
He won because everyone else played Gardy LOCK or some other version of G&G and he didn't play against Magmortar. (Not to take anything away from his win)
I'm pretty sure he played against a Magmortar Round 1.... But more than likely it was one of those "Round 1 Opponents", so Ector pooped on him. **No offense to anyone who plays in Round 1.

Where's Ho-Oh/Togekiss?
Good question.
 
You guys are dismissing the all important Tier 1.5. Banette, Blissey and Skittles all belong there.

Why doesn't Hurricane go in 1.5? Because not only does it lose to G&G, but Holon FF really shrinks it's win margin against Mag...and FF is a common tech.
 
He played twitchy who was pllay magmortar in top and during swiss. I guess he just out played him.

Blissey is a tier 2 deck,all the top tier decks beat it pretty badly. Skittles should be tier 2 since its a pretty nice deck and works well with the right build.
 
People, Arcanine is just a bad card, sorry. Maybe a 1/1 tech to win a game, but other than that your leaving 4 NRG attached to a 60 HP poke all for just 1 KO.
 
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