momma_june
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As for the theft part said:
Watchin' from the sidelines. A suspended player's Report/confession
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:nonono: One of the things I like best about Pokemon is the concept of Spirit of the Game, how it is written into the rules, and underlies every aspect of the game.
This is after you were given the incredibly generous opportunity to decrease the severity of the penalty you received for knowingly cheating, while a Professor, in a Premier tournament. Do I have that right?
I appreciate that. I just know that if my 11 year old Junior division son Charlie cheated on purpose that a POP suspension or ban would come after a personal banning from me; and my banning would likely be longer than the official punishment. Charlie was the victim of clever cheating at a Premier event years ago, and we don't like cheaters.
I don't appreciate or accept that. I have never been tempted to steal pack of cards, and I'm not even a Professor.
You have not yet received what you deserve, IMO.
JandPDS said:
Boy, do you owe Crystal and every other player in the game an apology. It is too bad she will never know whether she might have won or placed high in the tournament as you cheated her out of an opportunity to play in the top cut games.
Scizor said:
I don't know how long you have been cheating, stealing, and lying; but Chad is right to wonder whether he is a victim of your's as well, having placed 9th in a T-8 cut tournament you particpated in this year.
I am saddened that you cheated. I am sickened, that after being allowed a chance for redemption, you stole. I am aghast that you post self serving, delusional, and pathetic drivel about how we are all tempted (to steal packs of cards!).
I honestly wish you well, hope you get better, and after a long absence from the game can return to it with a firm grounding in the concept of Spirit of the Game.
Pidgeotto Trainer
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CMex, I just hope that the comments here woke you up to what you've been doing. The fact that you stole after all this shows you didn't learn the lesson the first time.
I do hope you can come back from this a better person, and you probably are taking a little more abuse here than you may deserve, but maybe that will wake you up better.
The fact that you did post this is admirable. I certainly expected anyone in your situation to just fade into the shadows.
I do hope you can come back from this a better person, and you probably are taking a little more abuse here than you may deserve, but maybe that will wake you up better.
The fact that you did post this is admirable. I certainly expected anyone in your situation to just fade into the shadows.
Articjedi
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Yah, guys give him a break, stealing two packs isn't as bad as all the times he stole packs from POP by cheating at tournaments, right?
All joking aside, Kayhon, this is sickening. The fact that you took this long to confess is even more sickening. Maybe if you just came clean the first time, we'd go more easy on you. But this is something that's already taken place two months ago. Aside from all your talk, it's pretty obvious that you don't place enough value in the respect every player gave you to not cheat everyone. You did that when you cheated at brs, and you did that again when you stole from BDS. I really wonder if any type of punishment is going to stop you, because it's obvious it didn't when you blew your chance at redemption from POP. It's not the boosters, it's not the trophies, the little br cards, the medals, it's none of that. You have no respect for yourself and the people around you. Your time off better be long because it'll take that much time for you to wake up.
All joking aside, Kayhon, this is sickening. The fact that you took this long to confess is even more sickening. Maybe if you just came clean the first time, we'd go more easy on you. But this is something that's already taken place two months ago. Aside from all your talk, it's pretty obvious that you don't place enough value in the respect every player gave you to not cheat everyone. You did that when you cheated at brs, and you did that again when you stole from BDS. I really wonder if any type of punishment is going to stop you, because it's obvious it didn't when you blew your chance at redemption from POP. It's not the boosters, it's not the trophies, the little br cards, the medals, it's none of that. You have no respect for yourself and the people around you. Your time off better be long because it'll take that much time for you to wake up.
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My turn...
I don't usually post on Pokegym, but this time I just felt the need...
CMex - I am deeply disturbed here by your mixed messages. I admire the fact that you put this thread together, seeming to come clean about what you did, but at the same time you say things like "That's why I chose to tell the whole truth of my dark deeds" and "Wish there was more I could do, but that's life", "I was overtaken by temptation. It happens to all of us...." and "The main reason I posted this report is becuase I felt like I owed it more to myself then to anyone else" (I'm sorry I don't know how to do multiple quotes in a reply).
Ok, let's talk about choosing to tell the whole truth of your dark deeds...what happened to telling the whole truth? It took several posts for you to tell the whole truth, if you have even reached a point of the whole truth, yet. Again, I admire the fact that you are trying to come clean here, but if you are going to tell the whole truth, then just do it. Don't post parts, and more parts, and more parts, and then claim to tell the whole truth. This only adds to the mistrust that people are going to have for you.
"I was overtaken by temptation. It happens to all of us...." WOW, I have to disagree with this statement of yours. Yes, we are all faced with choices on a daily basis, but this being overtaken by temptation does NOT happen to all of us. That was a choice you made and trying to justify it by saying it happens to all of us is just wrong.
Next, "Wish there were more I could do, but that's just life"??? Woah, wait a minute. That is NOT just life. If you truly meant that then you would be doing more. You wouldn't just be here airing your guilt. You would be actively trying to gain the trust of those in this community by being more humble, apologizing more, and NOT DOING ANYTHING LIKE THIS AGAIN. The fact that you stole (or tried to) the packs from BDS AFTER given a second chance just shows that you are/were not ready to begin the healing process and redemption process. What a wonderful opportunity BDS and whoever else was involved in this decision gave you...and you just threw it back in their faces. What more could you do?? Actively try to find everyone who deserves an apology. Write a letter and ask the LL's, TO's, PTO's involved to help you send them out. They shouldn't give you all the names and addresses, but maybe they would be willing to help send them out once you have stamped and put a return address on the envelopes. This would include BDS, the LL's, the TO's, and anyone else you have been involved with in the Pokemon community. Post a public apology here. Stop sounding so arrogant and defensive. I don't know what else right off the top of my head, but I am sure that if you are sincere you will be able to come up with other ways to do more. You have not yet shown that you are ready to change. You have only shown that you are aware that you did something wrong. And I must say, physical pain from a bike accident doesn't hurt nearly as bad or for as long as emotional pain like you inflicted on these people who trusted you.
"The main reason I posted this report is becuase I felt like I owed it more to myself then to anyone else". Again, this sounds arrogant and self serving. I understand the need to be honest with yourself, and the desire and need to change, but that can not happen if you are only concerned about yourself.
Now CMex, I hope you don't take this as bashing you, but as another opinion of a responsible adult who would like to see you change into the person that you claim to want to be. I would hope that you really listen to the other people who have posted here and HEAR what they have to say, and learn from all of them. Some are not so nice, some are...but almost all have valid points and it seems that almost all truly want to help.
Phazon - to you I would like to say this...if you can't be supportive and helpful, then please don't post. By asking you to be supportive I don't mean give him another chance, or even forgive him just yet, it doesn't mean that you have to agree with or condone what he did...but be willing to have an open mind about what he is saying and think about the fact that he may change in the future. It sounds as if you two were friends at one time in your lives. It would be a wonderful thing if he could grow up and earn your trust again. You started out with some very valid points, but your posts quickly turned ugly. Posting hateful things about him without trying to at least offer solid helpful advice just shows that you maybe have some growing up to do too. I understand your anger toward him, but is this really helping either of you to become better people? And about your little disclaimers about infractions...STOP! If you think it may be wrong, then why do it? And why be proud of the fact that you are getting infraction points?
CMex, some of the others have posted very helpful responses, and I don't really have time to quote all of them and give my opinions. I do agree with Drew that some of the posts have been way too harsh, and I agree with everything Pokedad said, and SDPokemom, and others... Those are the posts that you should pay the most attention to, that we should all pay attention to. We as a human race can always improve ourselves. None of us are above making a mistake. You happened to make some huge ones. That doesn't mean it's all over. But it will take time. Which reminds me of something else...You said "To rediscover myself . And it'll all happen in due time. After all, I got all summer." Oh my, you are delusional if you think that this will all be fixed by the end of summer. Rediscovering yourself is a long process, as is earning the trust and respect of your friends and the rest of the Pokemon Community after something like this. Be prepared to be working toward those goals for a loooonngg time.
To all (including myself): The Professor Core Values should be applied to not only being a Pokemon Professor, but to life as well. We should all be proud that we display and follow these values. Integrity, Honesty, Responsibility, Professionalism. These are all things that we should be following every day of our lives. Just think what a better world, what a better Pokemon community, what a better person we could all be if we just followed those simple principles.
Please remember, this is only my opinion. It doesn't make me right. Just someone who hopes you will learn from this and grow as a person, and that we all can learn from the situation as well.
I don't usually post on Pokegym, but this time I just felt the need...
CMex - I am deeply disturbed here by your mixed messages. I admire the fact that you put this thread together, seeming to come clean about what you did, but at the same time you say things like "That's why I chose to tell the whole truth of my dark deeds" and "Wish there was more I could do, but that's life", "I was overtaken by temptation. It happens to all of us...." and "The main reason I posted this report is becuase I felt like I owed it more to myself then to anyone else" (I'm sorry I don't know how to do multiple quotes in a reply).
Ok, let's talk about choosing to tell the whole truth of your dark deeds...what happened to telling the whole truth? It took several posts for you to tell the whole truth, if you have even reached a point of the whole truth, yet. Again, I admire the fact that you are trying to come clean here, but if you are going to tell the whole truth, then just do it. Don't post parts, and more parts, and more parts, and then claim to tell the whole truth. This only adds to the mistrust that people are going to have for you.
"I was overtaken by temptation. It happens to all of us...." WOW, I have to disagree with this statement of yours. Yes, we are all faced with choices on a daily basis, but this being overtaken by temptation does NOT happen to all of us. That was a choice you made and trying to justify it by saying it happens to all of us is just wrong.
Next, "Wish there were more I could do, but that's just life"??? Woah, wait a minute. That is NOT just life. If you truly meant that then you would be doing more. You wouldn't just be here airing your guilt. You would be actively trying to gain the trust of those in this community by being more humble, apologizing more, and NOT DOING ANYTHING LIKE THIS AGAIN. The fact that you stole (or tried to) the packs from BDS AFTER given a second chance just shows that you are/were not ready to begin the healing process and redemption process. What a wonderful opportunity BDS and whoever else was involved in this decision gave you...and you just threw it back in their faces. What more could you do?? Actively try to find everyone who deserves an apology. Write a letter and ask the LL's, TO's, PTO's involved to help you send them out. They shouldn't give you all the names and addresses, but maybe they would be willing to help send them out once you have stamped and put a return address on the envelopes. This would include BDS, the LL's, the TO's, and anyone else you have been involved with in the Pokemon community. Post a public apology here. Stop sounding so arrogant and defensive. I don't know what else right off the top of my head, but I am sure that if you are sincere you will be able to come up with other ways to do more. You have not yet shown that you are ready to change. You have only shown that you are aware that you did something wrong. And I must say, physical pain from a bike accident doesn't hurt nearly as bad or for as long as emotional pain like you inflicted on these people who trusted you.
"The main reason I posted this report is becuase I felt like I owed it more to myself then to anyone else". Again, this sounds arrogant and self serving. I understand the need to be honest with yourself, and the desire and need to change, but that can not happen if you are only concerned about yourself.
Now CMex, I hope you don't take this as bashing you, but as another opinion of a responsible adult who would like to see you change into the person that you claim to want to be. I would hope that you really listen to the other people who have posted here and HEAR what they have to say, and learn from all of them. Some are not so nice, some are...but almost all have valid points and it seems that almost all truly want to help.
Phazon - to you I would like to say this...if you can't be supportive and helpful, then please don't post. By asking you to be supportive I don't mean give him another chance, or even forgive him just yet, it doesn't mean that you have to agree with or condone what he did...but be willing to have an open mind about what he is saying and think about the fact that he may change in the future. It sounds as if you two were friends at one time in your lives. It would be a wonderful thing if he could grow up and earn your trust again. You started out with some very valid points, but your posts quickly turned ugly. Posting hateful things about him without trying to at least offer solid helpful advice just shows that you maybe have some growing up to do too. I understand your anger toward him, but is this really helping either of you to become better people? And about your little disclaimers about infractions...STOP! If you think it may be wrong, then why do it? And why be proud of the fact that you are getting infraction points?
CMex, some of the others have posted very helpful responses, and I don't really have time to quote all of them and give my opinions. I do agree with Drew that some of the posts have been way too harsh, and I agree with everything Pokedad said, and SDPokemom, and others... Those are the posts that you should pay the most attention to, that we should all pay attention to. We as a human race can always improve ourselves. None of us are above making a mistake. You happened to make some huge ones. That doesn't mean it's all over. But it will take time. Which reminds me of something else...You said "To rediscover myself . And it'll all happen in due time. After all, I got all summer." Oh my, you are delusional if you think that this will all be fixed by the end of summer. Rediscovering yourself is a long process, as is earning the trust and respect of your friends and the rest of the Pokemon Community after something like this. Be prepared to be working toward those goals for a loooonngg time.
To all (including myself): The Professor Core Values should be applied to not only being a Pokemon Professor, but to life as well. We should all be proud that we display and follow these values. Integrity, Honesty, Responsibility, Professionalism. These are all things that we should be following every day of our lives. Just think what a better world, what a better Pokemon community, what a better person we could all be if we just followed those simple principles.
Please remember, this is only my opinion. It doesn't make me right. Just someone who hopes you will learn from this and grow as a person, and that we all can learn from the situation as well.
Alazor
Active Member
""The main reason I posted this report is becuase I felt like I owed it more to myself then to anyone else". Again, this sounds arrogant and self serving. I understand the need to be honest with yourself, and the desire and need to change, but that can not happen if you are only concerned about yourself."
Build the player base, don't break it down. Life is also about serving others-- don't forget about that.
That's agreed. Blocks don't build themselves all on their own.
"Hmmmm,
I think that some people who have posted on this thread should go back and read what they posted. He is saying he made a mistake, he is even apologizing for it. He said he is going to try to make amends, but some of the people who have posted have been really negative to someone who is trying to say they are sorry. I think that if you did something wrong and you wanted forgiveness you wouldn't be very happy if people were being for lack of a better term, jerks to you.
However saying that, it was 100% wrong, Cyber should of been banned. I don't know about working it off, because I have never heard POP doing that. I know if he cheated at an event I was playing at or against me I would be insanely upset. However, when someone is TRYING to apologize for the actions I don't see pointing out that they were wrong and being completely negative. This is one of those times that if you don't have anything really helpful or nice to say, well you just shouldn't say it. I am sure he feels bad enough already without everyone piling on him how bad is was. I am not taking sides, I just want people to think if they were in his shoes, would they be appriciative if they were saying they were sorry and other people were doing that to them. I feel what he did was wrong and I am in no way condoning it, but seriously most of you need to be a little nicer overall on this.
JMO,
Drew"
Agreed.
"Stop sounding so arrogant and defensive. I don't know what else right off the top of my head, but I am sure that if you are sincere you will be able to come up with other ways to do more. You have not yet shown that you are ready to change. You have only shown that you are aware that you did something wrong. And I must say, physical pain from a bike accident doesn't hurt nearly as bad or for as long as emotional pain like you inflicted on these people who trusted you."
If I were you Cyber, I'd really focus on that quote.
Build the player base, don't break it down. Life is also about serving others-- don't forget about that.
That's agreed. Blocks don't build themselves all on their own.
"Hmmmm,
I think that some people who have posted on this thread should go back and read what they posted. He is saying he made a mistake, he is even apologizing for it. He said he is going to try to make amends, but some of the people who have posted have been really negative to someone who is trying to say they are sorry. I think that if you did something wrong and you wanted forgiveness you wouldn't be very happy if people were being for lack of a better term, jerks to you.
However saying that, it was 100% wrong, Cyber should of been banned. I don't know about working it off, because I have never heard POP doing that. I know if he cheated at an event I was playing at or against me I would be insanely upset. However, when someone is TRYING to apologize for the actions I don't see pointing out that they were wrong and being completely negative. This is one of those times that if you don't have anything really helpful or nice to say, well you just shouldn't say it. I am sure he feels bad enough already without everyone piling on him how bad is was. I am not taking sides, I just want people to think if they were in his shoes, would they be appriciative if they were saying they were sorry and other people were doing that to them. I feel what he did was wrong and I am in no way condoning it, but seriously most of you need to be a little nicer overall on this.
JMO,
Drew"
Agreed.
"Stop sounding so arrogant and defensive. I don't know what else right off the top of my head, but I am sure that if you are sincere you will be able to come up with other ways to do more. You have not yet shown that you are ready to change. You have only shown that you are aware that you did something wrong. And I must say, physical pain from a bike accident doesn't hurt nearly as bad or for as long as emotional pain like you inflicted on these people who trusted you."
If I were you Cyber, I'd really focus on that quote.
Phazon Elite
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Well, the thing that did it for me was the theft. I didn't read much of anything in the thread when I first replied, so I had a softer tone. I thought he had finished with his dishonesty. Then, when I found out that he had not, I became completely livid. Had I sent him a message elsewhere, I would have probably really ripped into him, which makes me glad I kept most of the hate on family-friendly Pokegym (where I am limited in what I am allowed to say). So, if it helps at all, the stuff in this thread was basically the meanest I said.
I'm usually a very understanding guy, which is why I agreed to help Keyhan keep what happened at Regionals a secret - even after I heard his lame excuses and blatant lies. For two months, I had to feel like I was lying to all of the League people - and even worse, the League Leader. I had to watch all the kids admire my skill not because I beat them, but because I legitimately (or so they thought) beat Keyhan at Regionals (i know that sounds very cocky, but that was not the intent). That's where a lot of the anger comes from; not what Keyhan did to me, but what I trapped myself into doing. Eventually, I got sick of this, and I was going to tell the League Leader about Keyhan on Sunday, but someone had already told her before I got a chance.
Even with all that, I came into this topic just looking to blow off a little steam, scold Keyhan a few times, ignore him for a while, then be friends with him again. That's what I had intended to do. Then, when I read that he stole from BDS, that was the last straw. I couldn't believe that I was duped into thinking that the experience made a man out of him, and I never want to make the mistake of trusting him ever again.
Pokemom, even though you don't explicitly state it, you seem offended by something I said, and if that is true, I am very sorry. I was (and still very much am) sore at Keyhan, and I lowered myself down a few pegs to make sure everyone knew it. At the time, I thought my posts were fine, but your method of letting me know they were not made me realize that a lot of the mean stuff I said should have been kept out of the general public. If I post in this thread in the future, I will do my best to be much more mature about it. You brought me back down to Earth, so thank you. : )
With that said, I still do not wish to associate with Keyhan any more than is absolutely required, nor am I his friend any more. I know that I am right to feel that way, but I also know now that trying to make Keyhan miserable will only make everyone else think less of me, so I shall refrain from further bashing directed at him.
JuarezSuperStar
New Member
Ouch, Kayhon what have you done?! 
Myah, RJ, Noah and I are so shocked to find out about this. We've known you for two years and you never done somehting as bad as this.
Since we know you very well, that right there tells us that you've learned your lesson. You hardly ever make sense when you're being honest and in a rush at the same time. :lol: It's obvious to me that you want to make up for your wrongs and that you have at least some idea how.
As for all the harsh posts, don't let them get to your head. Not everyone will be happy with your decision at those tournaments. Since your a good friend to my daughter and my son I'll forgive you.
As Myah says: Nothing last forever so live it up, drink it down, laugh it off, avoid the balony, take chances, and never have regrets because at one point everything you did was exactly what you wanted.
I hope cheating and stealing is something you actually wanted to do, since you've already gone and done it. Here's hoping your become a better man after this experience is said and done with.
Good luck and see you soon.
Myah, RJ, Noah and I are so shocked to find out about this. We've known you for two years and you never done somehting as bad as this.
Since we know you very well, that right there tells us that you've learned your lesson. You hardly ever make sense when you're being honest and in a rush at the same time. :lol: It's obvious to me that you want to make up for your wrongs and that you have at least some idea how.
I seriously doubt that can be done here on the internet. You want to change, get off the computer and get out into the world. Apologize to those you hurt and do some community service to make up for your wrongs, but keep in mind of what people have told you.
As for all the harsh posts, don't let them get to your head. Not everyone will be happy with your decision at those tournaments. Since your a good friend to my daughter and my son I'll forgive you.
As Myah says: Nothing last forever so live it up, drink it down, laugh it off, avoid the balony, take chances, and never have regrets because at one point everything you did was exactly what you wanted.
I hope cheating and stealing is something you actually wanted to do, since you've already gone and done it. Here's hoping your become a better man after this experience is said and done with.
Good luck and see you soon.
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Well Phazon, you got my point exactly. Thank you for listening, and for the nice response.
I wish I knew how to put multiple quotes in my posts...maybe you could teach me? :biggrin: It would be much easier to respond to specific things...
It is really unfair that you were put into such a position as to feel like you had to lie to protect someone else. One should never be asked to lie, but I understand why you would feel the need to protect your friend. You have every right to feel anger and hurt. I do not disagree with that, only the way that you decided to "blow off steam".
You have a right to your feelings and how to react to them, for sure. You also have the right to not associate with Cyber in the future. You, like a lot of other people, gave him a second chance (and more it sounds like).
Back to the topic...Hopefully Cyber will grow up, and will learn a valuable lesson from all of this. Cyber lost a lot more than the right to play pokemon for a year. He lost a good friend and the trust of a whole bunch of people. I think he is beginning to realize that.
Cyber, you will probably not be this involved in Pokemon for the duration of your life, but you will have friends and people that feel like family that you want to keep in your life forever. This is a good lesson to learn early on so that you can forge those friendships and relationships and keep them healthy and alive forever. Start by living those values every day, in everything you do, in every choice you make. Only you can decide your fate and your happiness. I am confident that if you make a concious effort to live with honesty and integrity, you will earn the respect of this family again. It will take some time, a long time, but you can do it.
I wish I knew how to put multiple quotes in my posts...maybe you could teach me? :biggrin: It would be much easier to respond to specific things...
It is really unfair that you were put into such a position as to feel like you had to lie to protect someone else. One should never be asked to lie, but I understand why you would feel the need to protect your friend. You have every right to feel anger and hurt. I do not disagree with that, only the way that you decided to "blow off steam".
You have a right to your feelings and how to react to them, for sure. You also have the right to not associate with Cyber in the future. You, like a lot of other people, gave him a second chance (and more it sounds like).
Back to the topic...Hopefully Cyber will grow up, and will learn a valuable lesson from all of this. Cyber lost a lot more than the right to play pokemon for a year. He lost a good friend and the trust of a whole bunch of people. I think he is beginning to realize that.
Cyber, you will probably not be this involved in Pokemon for the duration of your life, but you will have friends and people that feel like family that you want to keep in your life forever. This is a good lesson to learn early on so that you can forge those friendships and relationships and keep them healthy and alive forever. Start by living those values every day, in everything you do, in every choice you make. Only you can decide your fate and your happiness. I am confident that if you make a concious effort to live with honesty and integrity, you will earn the respect of this family again. It will take some time, a long time, but you can do it.
This really seems more like a case of I'm sorry I got caught.
However I do think this is a side of Pokemon that does exist and more people need to be a were of.
All I can say is right now I believe you haven't learned anything but I hope you do over the next 6 months.
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I agree 100% with Scizors post
However I do think this is a side of Pokemon that does exist and more people need to be a were of.
All I can say is right now I believe you haven't learned anything but I hope you do over the next 6 months.
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JuarezSuperStar
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Kayhon, this is the kind of stuff you already know and live by. Why is it that you resorted to such actions? Myah and I reread your post and we are thinking you should've avoided tournaments if you were having issues.
As for your pokemon family, I hope they'll forgive just as easily as my own family has.
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Cyrus
Iron Chef - Master Emeritus
Eh...Come on. This guy isn't Hester Prynne, people - he shouldn't have a big "A for adultery" (or "C" for "cheater") wherever he goes.
This is POP's game, and if they choose to only give him six months, then that's fine by me. However, he has a lifetime ban from the benefit of the doubt, meaning that no player, judge, or staff will truly trust him.
This is POP's game, and if they choose to only give him six months, then that's fine by me. However, he has a lifetime ban from the benefit of the doubt, meaning that no player, judge, or staff will truly trust him.
Eh...Come on. This guy isn't Hester Prynne, people - he shouldn't have a big "A for adultery"
Somebody's been reading the scarlett letter but seriously dude this is a card game dude. Did you wan't win that bad that you had too cheat. Trust me if you have to cheat to get what you want accomplished done maybe that's a sign saying you shouldn't be doing it. How would you have felt at regionas if you had won? I wouldn't have felt too high of myself winning something i didn't achieve fairly. Hope you change cause at the end of the day it's just a game.
Somebody's been reading the scarlett letter but seriously dude this is a card game dude. Did you wan't win that bad that you had too cheat. Trust me if you have to cheat to get what you want accomplished done maybe that's a sign saying you shouldn't be doing it. How would you have felt at regionas if you had won? I wouldn't have felt too high of myself winning something i didn't achieve fairly. Hope you change cause at the end of the day it's just a game.
JandPDS
New Member
Why did he do it?
Some people have asked why did he cheat, well it is not that complicated, He cheated for the same reason that anyone who decides to cheat does so, he did not believe that he was a skilled enough of a player to win a legitamate game so he broke the rules to cover up for his shortcomings as a player. I know this was not a one time event in his rules breaking because I was warned at Oregon States by 3 different Sources that he had cheated to win Multiple Battle Roads and City Championships this year, and If I was to happen to play him I needed to watch him constantly. Now I live In Washington, so if I knew about it, you can be darn sure a whole lot of people in Oregon knew about his cheating as well.
Why did he steal, well that is simple as well, he stole beacuse was greedy, and thought as most thieves do that he could steal and not get caught. Like his cheating, I doubt this was the 1st time that happened, and it may not be the last.
Does this make him the worst person in the world? Of course it does not, but as a known thief and cheater he should never be involved in any leadership capacity in Pokemon ever again.
Some people have asked why did he cheat, well it is not that complicated, He cheated for the same reason that anyone who decides to cheat does so, he did not believe that he was a skilled enough of a player to win a legitamate game so he broke the rules to cover up for his shortcomings as a player. I know this was not a one time event in his rules breaking because I was warned at Oregon States by 3 different Sources that he had cheated to win Multiple Battle Roads and City Championships this year, and If I was to happen to play him I needed to watch him constantly. Now I live In Washington, so if I knew about it, you can be darn sure a whole lot of people in Oregon knew about his cheating as well.
Why did he steal, well that is simple as well, he stole beacuse was greedy, and thought as most thieves do that he could steal and not get caught. Like his cheating, I doubt this was the 1st time that happened, and it may not be the last.
Does this make him the worst person in the world? Of course it does not, but as a known thief and cheater he should never be involved in any leadership capacity in Pokemon ever again.
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Articjedi
Active Member
I dunno, if I were a convicted of a misdemeanor and I had to do community service, then committed another crime at where I was doing community service, I'd prolly have that time converted to jail time then have to deal with another charge on top of that. I'm surprised kayhon didn't get another suspension on top of that. Taking advantage of a pokemon event to steal boosters is just =\.
What I learned from all this, never give anyone the benefit of the doubt, especially when there is something at stake. I should have reported Kayhon back at regionals when I got the chance for drawing extra cards. Instead, I waited until I heard the news that he was disqualified from the tournament, and I wonder if my testimony was given any weight to POP's decision because it was late. Schwimmer already gave me the riot act after what I reported, as a prof I should have been able to pick out cheating when I see it. REPORT EVERYTHING the second it happens.
What I learned from all this, never give anyone the benefit of the doubt, especially when there is something at stake. I should have reported Kayhon back at regionals when I got the chance for drawing extra cards. Instead, I waited until I heard the news that he was disqualified from the tournament, and I wonder if my testimony was given any weight to POP's decision because it was late. Schwimmer already gave me the riot act after what I reported, as a prof I should have been able to pick out cheating when I see it. REPORT EVERYTHING the second it happens.
EeveeLover
Member Services Administrator
All things aside, the saddest part of this is that a player that WAS also a Professor did this. I see the Prof status is gone, but it is the Professors that run things, Judge things, and help mold newer players (not only the Profs, but most of the time). This casts a bad light on all of us that he did not have the integrity to play fair in the first place. Then to really throw everything away for 2 packs of cards? That is just flat stupid.
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Thank you for assuming that we are all as weak and dishonest as you are. Another quality of a great role model in the game. Reminds me of some other ppl that we have had to endure.
Be thankful that PUI and your local PTO(s) and TO's we even willing to give you a chance to redeem yourself. While your being thankful, remember not to take advantage of their kindness and develop a new skill. Most banned players are not allowed to participate in any way in any event, even Leagues.
For the comment of
Thank you for assuming that we are all as weak and dishonest as you are. Another quality of a great role model in the game. Reminds me of some other ppl that we have had to endure.
Be thankful that PUI and your local PTO(s) and TO's we even willing to give you a chance to redeem yourself. While your being thankful, remember not to take advantage of their kindness and develop a new skill. Most banned players are not allowed to participate in any way in any event, even Leagues.
afstandopleren
New Member
This thread just discourages me to even go to contests seeying how immature people act.
It is rather clear to me that it's painfully hard for CyberManetric EX to wright this and he must have been really emotional at the times he wrote this posts.
Has ANYONE in this thread come to a point in there Life where Life just hits you HARD and you can't do anything else but regret, learn and make amense. Beliefe me, in the short period I exist on this earth I have already had a few times of those.
Also, even adults MAKE MISTAKES. The things CyberManetric EX might be bad in the world of Pokemon-TCG but I do believe that there are people that have done worse and did not have the guts and honesty to post it on the net and try to appoligize (I hope I rote that right).
And don't tell me that no one has experienced a moment where they tried to make amense and got scolded for doing so.
That HURTS people. You SHOULD know and thus do better. We are supposed to be adults here, right?
Anyways CyberManetric EX, as much as that really where 'great actions', I do SO hope that you do have actually learned from this and never betray and hurt our trust again.
I wish I could say that time heals all wounds but it does not.
There will always be a scar to remind us of what we have done wrong or right.
Otherwise we would be really pathetic if we could not learn from even the hardest of lessons that Life pressents us.
It is rather clear to me that it's painfully hard for CyberManetric EX to wright this and he must have been really emotional at the times he wrote this posts.
Has ANYONE in this thread come to a point in there Life where Life just hits you HARD and you can't do anything else but regret, learn and make amense. Beliefe me, in the short period I exist on this earth I have already had a few times of those.
Also, even adults MAKE MISTAKES. The things CyberManetric EX might be bad in the world of Pokemon-TCG but I do believe that there are people that have done worse and did not have the guts and honesty to post it on the net and try to appoligize (I hope I rote that right).
And don't tell me that no one has experienced a moment where they tried to make amense and got scolded for doing so.
That HURTS people. You SHOULD know and thus do better. We are supposed to be adults here, right?
Anyways CyberManetric EX, as much as that really where 'great actions', I do SO hope that you do have actually learned from this and never betray and hurt our trust again.
I wish I could say that time heals all wounds but it does not.
There will always be a scar to remind us of what we have done wrong or right.
Otherwise we would be really pathetic if we could not learn from even the hardest of lessons that Life pressents us.
TheDarkTwins
Active Member
I am not saying that your wrong, I was just saying everyone was being really rude. I am not saying that he shouldn't get banned for a few years or not. I was just saying that people should think before posting because as wrong as what he did was, being insanely rude, mean, and hurtful just isn't going to help at the moment.
That's all I was saying.
Drew
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