gashmoigidy
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postin to say im here,
not much else to do,
nothing weird i fear,
but we must protect our crew.
not much else to do,
nothing weird i fear,
but we must protect our crew.
WEREWOLF XII: Cyrus's Revenge!! ENDGAME Planning for next WW game inside
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I think that is the role that is causing people to be seen walking around, yes. However, Diaz could not have been copied with it if he had been protected, therefore he was not protected by the priest during Night 2.
Which indicates that he is not the woman mentioned in the night updates.
Pikamaster
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But is this really true? Since the Ditto role isn't affecting the target, maybe it isn't blocked. Remember when Madhatter was killed in Absol's last game, but the ditto still copied him the same night that he was killed?
Diaz
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I think that it is weird that there was a "Diaz" walking around last night, while I was protected. It seems that it wasn't actually me (see above posts about some sort of ditto effect). I think that maybe the "ditto" effect would be self-targeting, meaning that the target is the ditto him/herself, and not the person being transformed into. I think that this is the best guess we can make about this at this time.
As for the idea that I was not the one female who was protected the past 2 nights, I think that this is unreasonable given the amount of evidence for me being that person. Before I knew that absol would reference the gender of each person in the night update, I said that I was Sabrina. It seems unlikely that any other player would receive the same amount of attention at night, let alone another female player.
The only other player to receive anywhere near as much attention was Ikrit (probably just a function of being a high profile player). No one else even comes close. If I wasn't the person protected the past 2 nights, who was? I don't think theres anyone else in the game who has been enough of a focus as I have been to warrant the amount of night actions against them as I have had.
And if you think that it was someone else receiving that much attention, where am I in the updates? I have been the focus of so much discussion, that it would seem that I would have several roles against me, which means that I would play a large role in each nights events. Again, there's no other player receiving as much attention at night as I would.
I think its a stretch to say that I wasn't the one priested. That argument is unlikely to hold, especially because the players who did target me at night, know that I did have these effects happen to me (either because they are a priest, who's role worked, or because they had some other role which failed).
This leads to another note. For tonight, the townie seers who have been targeting me need to stop. Theres no reason for you guys to continue wasting your ability on someone who keeps getting priested. Go figure out who the wolves are. My role (or at least my lack of threat to the town) has been pretty well established, and if need be it can be revisited, but for now it seems that you should move on and look into other players who are possibly wolfy. Maybe consider the people we have almost lynched in the past, or people we discuss today.
Thats what I have for now.
I think that it is weird that there was a "Diaz" walking around last night, while I was protected. It seems that it wasn't actually me (see above posts about some sort of ditto effect). I think that maybe the "ditto" effect would be self-targeting, meaning that the target is the ditto him/herself, and not the person being transformed into. I think that this is the best guess we can make about this at this time.
As for the idea that I was not the one female who was protected the past 2 nights, I think that this is unreasonable given the amount of evidence for me being that person. Before I knew that absol would reference the gender of each person in the night update, I said that I was Sabrina. It seems unlikely that any other player would receive the same amount of attention at night, let alone another female player.
The only other player to receive anywhere near as much attention was Ikrit (probably just a function of being a high profile player). No one else even comes close. If I wasn't the person protected the past 2 nights, who was? I don't think theres anyone else in the game who has been enough of a focus as I have been to warrant the amount of night actions against them as I have had.
And if you think that it was someone else receiving that much attention, where am I in the updates? I have been the focus of so much discussion, that it would seem that I would have several roles against me, which means that I would play a large role in each nights events. Again, there's no other player receiving as much attention at night as I would.
I think its a stretch to say that I wasn't the one priested. That argument is unlikely to hold, especially because the players who did target me at night, know that I did have these effects happen to me (either because they are a priest, who's role worked, or because they had some other role which failed).
This leads to another note. For tonight, the townie seers who have been targeting me need to stop. Theres no reason for you guys to continue wasting your ability on someone who keeps getting priested. Go figure out who the wolves are. My role (or at least my lack of threat to the town) has been pretty well established, and if need be it can be revisited, but for now it seems that you should move on and look into other players who are possibly wolfy. Maybe consider the people we have almost lynched in the past, or people we discuss today.
Thats what I have for now.
Azure Kite
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Back from North Carolina, so now I'll post my analysis of the night.
Well first of all, this kind of sucks. FOOLISH VOTEBLOCKER, YOU SHALL NOT SILENCE ME!!!! NEVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....there, got that out. Fortunately, my vote doesn't matter much at this point with so many players. Anyway, what also kind of sucks is the deaths. Ikrit was being kind of inactive, but he's always been one of our better players. And we also lost our seer.....oh, and just a side note for any who don't know, but I do believe Time For Pain had the same exact role in AT's last game.
Red vs. Blue: Okay, this is fairly interesting, and for a few reasons. Obviously Ikrit was an inactive player, and he didn't say much last game day or send in his role tonight. The main issue here is that Ikrit was targeted twice. Remember the X that appeared under him? Someone else tried to attack him but he was able to avoid it. Unfortunately though he was unlucky the second time because the wolves tried next and succeeded. Two people also watching this from the shadows. If I recall correctly, the Insomniac could find out something that happened during the night, right? I could be wrong, someone correct me if I am. Concerning the Pokeballs, by the time I was able to read this they were all gone. =/ Very interesting because these are most likely new abilities that anyone can use. Anyone who took one want to enlighten us as to it's effects?
The Detective: As I said, TFP had the same role last game. I think this was definitely the work of the assasin/vigilante/Indy with a killing role.
Diaz/Sabrina: People, I didn't want to believe it either. But we have established that DIAZ IS SABRINA THE PRIEST. Note it said a woman had chosen her target. This woman had to be Diaz, and selecting a target for protection. But before she could, someone else protected her, which I was clearly against. Whoever is doing this, please stop. It's wasting our time and valuable roles. The person Diaz targeted was possibly investigating him simultaneously. After that, remember the guy who tripped over the rock last game day? I do believe this is the same person with his random comments. Finally, the barrier around Sabrina dimmed for a second. I'll get to this later, but it basically indicated that whoever protected Diaz had something else happen to him/her in the night, which was probably included somewhere in the update.
Shinygyarados: There was a person targeted by 3 people for interrogation. As you recall, someone was interrogated the previous night as well. Shinygyarados later shown to have been in a fight and looked like he was jumped. I believe this means he was the person who was nearly interrogated but escaped.
The man meditating: Once again, in a house, a man was focusing on something. I'm not sure, but either 1 or 2 roles targeted him. The blue/pink lights flashed and he was thrown against the wall, and then Jigglypuff appeared. I do not know if Jigglypuff has anything to do with the lights or not, but it's certainly possible. Read further and see that a loud noise scared Jigglypuff away, apparently targeted by another Pokemon. Not sure what to make of this, may or may not be important.
Other Happnins: Among the remaining few things, first was that Diaz was walking around all night. As people have said, I think Ditto was doing something here, since obviously Diaz was trapped in the priest's barrier. D master also had burns. The first thing I would think is that this was Blue, who had suffered severe burns during his battles, but Blue(Ikrit) was killed, so I'm not sure. Possibly someone involved in the battle at the first part of the update. DarthPika was apparently targeted by a mood swing role. Yesterday he didn't talk to anyone, today he's all giddy and happy to the point of creepiness. :lol: I do believe this was the work of Pichu or whoever it is that makes people smile. As for me....I was obviously voteblocked, but I shall not be silenced.
......unless targeted by a Silencer role.
Well that's the entire update I believe, I will have more later. For now I can't seem to think of any leads, though I have my suspicions.
One final thing though. I do believe the second priest may be Shinygyarados or D master. This is just a guess, but unexplained things happened to both of them, which would obviously have distracted for a second, hence causing the barrier around Diaz to dim for a second. Once again, just speculation, but let's keep an eye on this.
Well first of all, this kind of sucks. FOOLISH VOTEBLOCKER, YOU SHALL NOT SILENCE ME!!!! NEVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....there, got that out. Fortunately, my vote doesn't matter much at this point with so many players. Anyway, what also kind of sucks is the deaths. Ikrit was being kind of inactive, but he's always been one of our better players. And we also lost our seer.....oh, and just a side note for any who don't know, but I do believe Time For Pain had the same exact role in AT's last game.
Red vs. Blue: Okay, this is fairly interesting, and for a few reasons. Obviously Ikrit was an inactive player, and he didn't say much last game day or send in his role tonight. The main issue here is that Ikrit was targeted twice. Remember the X that appeared under him? Someone else tried to attack him but he was able to avoid it. Unfortunately though he was unlucky the second time because the wolves tried next and succeeded. Two people also watching this from the shadows. If I recall correctly, the Insomniac could find out something that happened during the night, right? I could be wrong, someone correct me if I am. Concerning the Pokeballs, by the time I was able to read this they were all gone. =/ Very interesting because these are most likely new abilities that anyone can use. Anyone who took one want to enlighten us as to it's effects?
The Detective: As I said, TFP had the same role last game. I think this was definitely the work of the assasin/vigilante/Indy with a killing role.
Diaz/Sabrina: People, I didn't want to believe it either. But we have established that DIAZ IS SABRINA THE PRIEST. Note it said a woman had chosen her target. This woman had to be Diaz, and selecting a target for protection. But before she could, someone else protected her, which I was clearly against. Whoever is doing this, please stop. It's wasting our time and valuable roles. The person Diaz targeted was possibly investigating him simultaneously. After that, remember the guy who tripped over the rock last game day? I do believe this is the same person with his random comments. Finally, the barrier around Sabrina dimmed for a second. I'll get to this later, but it basically indicated that whoever protected Diaz had something else happen to him/her in the night, which was probably included somewhere in the update.
Shinygyarados: There was a person targeted by 3 people for interrogation. As you recall, someone was interrogated the previous night as well. Shinygyarados later shown to have been in a fight and looked like he was jumped. I believe this means he was the person who was nearly interrogated but escaped.
The man meditating: Once again, in a house, a man was focusing on something. I'm not sure, but either 1 or 2 roles targeted him. The blue/pink lights flashed and he was thrown against the wall, and then Jigglypuff appeared. I do not know if Jigglypuff has anything to do with the lights or not, but it's certainly possible. Read further and see that a loud noise scared Jigglypuff away, apparently targeted by another Pokemon. Not sure what to make of this, may or may not be important.
Other Happnins: Among the remaining few things, first was that Diaz was walking around all night. As people have said, I think Ditto was doing something here, since obviously Diaz was trapped in the priest's barrier. D master also had burns. The first thing I would think is that this was Blue, who had suffered severe burns during his battles, but Blue(Ikrit) was killed, so I'm not sure. Possibly someone involved in the battle at the first part of the update. DarthPika was apparently targeted by a mood swing role. Yesterday he didn't talk to anyone, today he's all giddy and happy to the point of creepiness. :lol: I do believe this was the work of Pichu or whoever it is that makes people smile. As for me....I was obviously voteblocked, but I shall not be silenced.
......unless targeted by a Silencer role.
Well that's the entire update I believe, I will have more later. For now I can't seem to think of any leads, though I have my suspicions.
One final thing though. I do believe the second priest may be Shinygyarados or D master. This is just a guess, but unexplained things happened to both of them, which would obviously have distracted for a second, hence causing the barrier around Diaz to dim for a second. Once again, just speculation, but let's keep an eye on this.
jameswilliams1324
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Maybe D Master is trainer Red? cause of the burn marks from his charizard?
d master342
New Member
Blue was burned but the night update never said Red was.
dmaster out.
dmaster out.
jameswilliams1324
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Yeah but it doesn't have to say red was burned, im saying you were burned cause you were standing too close to your charizard!
PokeChampofPokeBeach
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Okay guys, I've looked over the updates so far, and nothing really seems to stand out to me. Everything seems pretty normal to me. We lost some pretty important people in the night. Anyway, I have a theory: TimeForPain was able to see certain things about people. He made a vote for someone, but as to who it was, my memory escapes me. In the limited time I have to post today, I will make my theory:
Whoever that person was that TimeForPain voted for, I believe that TimeForPain had reason enough, despite the fact that that reasone as not visible to us.
I have to leave now, but I request that someone research who it was that TimeForPain (during day 2, if I'm not mistaken) originally voted for. I think we should investigate who that person was. TimeForPain must have seen something that made him suspicious enough of that person... suspicious enough to risk his life and cast a vote for that person.
I'll be back later.
Whoever that person was that TimeForPain voted for, I believe that TimeForPain had reason enough, despite the fact that that reasone as not visible to us.
I have to leave now, but I request that someone research who it was that TimeForPain (during day 2, if I'm not mistaken) originally voted for. I think we should investigate who that person was. TimeForPain must have seen something that made him suspicious enough of that person... suspicious enough to risk his life and cast a vote for that person.
I'll be back later.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
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Found it. Cardkeeper was voted against by TimeForPain. TimeForPain had to have looked in to him and clearly felt he was suspicious.
As we've seen, Cardkeeper clearly didn't want Diaz protected. He wanted an important player to go unprotected through the night, which if you ask me is a little suspicious. Not enough to warrant a vote for him, but still.
Then, we come to the fact that Cardkeeper jumps on theories like mad. When I was in the hot-spot for being suspected of being the guy that got interrogated, he immediately jumped on me. He slacked off when evidence showed otherwise, but overall I think Cardkeeper is being a little jumpy, and the fact TimeForPain seemed to want to get rid of him also makes me suspicious.
I could be reading too into this, and as such, I'm not going to cast a vote yet. I'm going to see what the town thinks of my find, and then decide later.
Cardkeeper
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Okay, first, the only reason I've been jumping on theories is because I have not been as active as I want to be, and wanted to help the town with my vote. I didn't have good reasoning, I will admit, but I'm going to help the town as much as I can. As for jumping on Diaz, I was trying to help the town destroy a fraud, but now I've come to realize he is indeed a preist or seer (I posted this sometime in Day 2 but don't have time to find the post ATM). Also, Day 2 was the first day I came into the game. I replaced Rage who, compared to others, I don't believe TFP would waist his power on. I am a bit jumpy, because of being busy, but how that the holidays are over, I hope to help the town more.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
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I am also curious because, even when HomeOfMew was about to be voted off, TimeForPain never went in-depth as to why he wanted you dead. He never said anything more after he voted for you, and now, he never will be able to thanks to his untimely death.
It is even more curious seeing as he never unvoted. Therefore, it seems rather certain in my mind that he had reason enough to believe you were a dangerous person.
Before I cast a vote for you, I will give you an opportunity to explain yourself. You are on the top of list of suspicion, but I want to be sure that the town votes carefully, seeing as we have already lost two important people.
WHY did TimeForPain, a town-aligned seer (not exactly, yet practically) want you dead?
It is even more curious seeing as he never unvoted. Therefore, it seems rather certain in my mind that he had reason enough to believe you were a dangerous person.
Before I cast a vote for you, I will give you an opportunity to explain yourself. You are on the top of list of suspicion, but I want to be sure that the town votes carefully, seeing as we have already lost two important people.
WHY did TimeForPain, a town-aligned seer (not exactly, yet practically) want you dead?
Diaz
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Champ, good call, I can’t believe I didn’t think to look back at TFP’s vote history. I wish he had been around longer to give us a longer history. I don’t think we can rely on that vote as much as you suggest, though. I don’t think tfp would waste his role night one on rage. And there’s a chance that his night one ability did not work, both because of possible priesting and the % inherent in his role. So his vote for cardkeeper might just have been his own opinion.
Here’s some things that could convince me of your theory Champ. When exactly did we know card was replacing rage? If it was before the night, then tfp would be more likely to investigate him. If someone could try to decipher where tfp fell in terms of the night one update, that would be great. A solid explanation of who tfp was during the night one update will help us out tremendously.
More later.
Here’s some things that could convince me of your theory Champ. When exactly did we know card was replacing rage? If it was before the night, then tfp would be more likely to investigate him. If someone could try to decipher where tfp fell in terms of the night one update, that would be great. A solid explanation of who tfp was during the night one update will help us out tremendously.
More later.
Diaz
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Where are you going with this? I could take that to mean that we should look into him for a possible vote today. OR, are asking, why did TFP choose to single out cards over shinyg for the vote? Both are interesting points, that I kind of like.
d master342
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Ok, I could believe that, but that would be dumb that my own Pokemon burn me. >__> I was likely burned because Charizard chooses someone to be burned (that's his special role that he gets) and I was chosen. That's a little more likely, hm?
dmaster out.