WEREWOLF XII: Cyrus's Revenge!! ENDGAME Planning for next WW game inside
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DarthPika
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I was simply saying that I think he's someone that we should look into a little more considering how aggressive he was about lynching you. As to why TFP didn't vote for him, I don't really know. It's quite possible that he just didn't know anything about SG. I don't know anything either other than what I've observed from his posts, but so far he seems like someone we should consider for lynching.
I was looking at some old posts and found this too.
It seems that fire spin is a seer too, because he doesn't seem to make it random this was after night 1. It might not be much, but we can narrow down the possible wolves.
It seems that fire spin is a seer too, because he doesn't seem to make it random this was after night 1. It might not be much, but we can narrow down the possible wolves.
Diaz
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@dmaster and friends
Dmaster obviously isnt the other trainer. You guys arent using any real evidence, and your conversation isnt getting us anywhere. Don't bother pursuing that. If anything, look into when we found out that cardkeeper was replacing rage, at least thats useful info.
@meesie6666666666
thats too soon. we're not at the point where we need to lynch yet.
@dp
keep talking, everyone else doesnt make much sense, at least you contribute constructively. I agree that shiny needs to be looked at, but he's just another on the list of suspects at this point. I don't see a need for him to be lynched yet, I guess time will tell. For now I think we move on with discussion while keeping shiny in mind.
@dmaster and friends
Dmaster obviously isnt the other trainer. You guys arent using any real evidence, and your conversation isnt getting us anywhere. Don't bother pursuing that. If anything, look into when we found out that cardkeeper was replacing rage, at least thats useful info.
@meesie6666666666
thats too soon. we're not at the point where we need to lynch yet.
@dp
keep talking, everyone else doesnt make much sense, at least you contribute constructively. I agree that shiny needs to be looked at, but he's just another on the list of suspects at this point. I don't see a need for him to be lynched yet, I guess time will tell. For now I think we move on with discussion while keeping shiny in mind.
DukeFireBird
Gallery Administrator<br>Forum Moderator
There is just not enough information to make an accurate deduction as to alignment right now.
I can guess 1 thing though, We had homeofmew's role revealed to be half of the twin's Liz and Tate. So it would only be fitting to have both roles in this game. And what would Tate's power be, a psuedo-seer role? Something that is only worked if they found each other? Or is this just a red herring because I would of thought they would of been a couple/suicidal.
Just throwin out a few ideas here.
I can guess 1 thing though, We had homeofmew's role revealed to be half of the twin's Liz and Tate. So it would only be fitting to have both roles in this game. And what would Tate's power be, a psuedo-seer role? Something that is only worked if they found each other? Or is this just a red herring because I would of thought they would of been a couple/suicidal.
Just throwin out a few ideas here.
Azure Kite
New Member
Well that's exactly the problem here. Who is a threat to us? Not many people can be suspected at this point. I guess we can start with these people though.
Cardkeeper: TFP suspected him of something, and being the seer, he could have known that Cardkeeper had a role/alignment to make him a threat.
Shinygyarados: Kind of strange patterns of activity really. Won't let go of the Diaz issue, even though there's nearly concrete evidence that he's the priest.
Smacktack15: Although role is not known, he has been a dangerous voter and faulty logic user since day one, which makes him a potential threat to the town.(of course this could be said of all inexperienced players, to a degree)
These are just the few I could think of, but I am hoping to extend it a bit as the game progresses.
Cardkeeper
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Here is proof that unless TFP wasted his seering on Rage, his suspicons were his own without his role. I am only trying to help the town. And if you ask me, ShinyG is a lot more suspicious because of the fact he won't let the whole Diaz thing go. Just IMHO
jameswilliams1324
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No i accused him of being red.
Sorry i wasn't realy thinking lol, i actually didn't know where i was trying to go with that. Sorry.
shinygyarados
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Lotsa discussion, with not a lot of bandwagoning, good good good.
@ DarthPika:
The reason that I was especially suspicious of Diaz was because he role claimed early. Also he seemed to have people who were ready to switch their votes away from him once he gave a reason why he should not be killed(such as PkB, Pikamaster, and DarthPika)
@ PokeChampOfPokeBeach:
Time For Pain's role said that he would only be able to learn something about his targets role sometimes. Knowing how tricky Absoltrainer can be, he might have learned something that made him seem like a wolf. It is a good line of thought though.
@Meesie666666:
It is kind of my job to make sure that I dont get killed so that I can continue to help the town. Also if you ask me, it is never too early in a day to vote, as long as you are firm in your decision. Towards the end of the day is when you really need to be careful of your votes. The last thing that any townie wants is to get the vote just far enough away so that the wolves can jump on and finish the lynching before anyone can change their minds. Also what do you mean that Smacktack does not have a role that we should care about? Do you know anything about Smacktack's role?
@Chanman:
It seems more likely to me that fire spin really just wanted to see if I would freak out and act suspicious if someone suspected me as a wolf.
@DukeFireBird:
I agree with you that Tate is a very possible role in this game. It seems likely that he would have a simliar, if not exactly the same role as Liz. Very helpful.
@Fire spin:
i would ask you to please explain to me how my posts seem suspicious. From the beginning I have always tried to make the main point of each of my posts has been to ask people to think out their posts carefully as it is with this one. I especially do not see how anything I said after FJM died proves me suspicious.
To everyone:
I really dont see what points to Diaz as a priest. I'm sure that he was the person in the bubble that was targeted by everyone the first night, and the one who was in the barrier that faltered last night. I do not however see how this is proof that he is a priest. All it says is that he was targeted multiple times, and the he targeted someone. As I have said before, he could have any number of roles. I would also like to point out that if we are looking at suspicious people we should probably start with people who have been switching the vote multiple times which seems like a much more wolfy thing to do than trying to get people to think out their votes.
@ DarthPika:
The reason that I was especially suspicious of Diaz was because he role claimed early. Also he seemed to have people who were ready to switch their votes away from him once he gave a reason why he should not be killed(such as PkB, Pikamaster, and DarthPika)
@ PokeChampOfPokeBeach:
Time For Pain's role said that he would only be able to learn something about his targets role sometimes. Knowing how tricky Absoltrainer can be, he might have learned something that made him seem like a wolf. It is a good line of thought though.
@Meesie666666:
It is kind of my job to make sure that I dont get killed so that I can continue to help the town. Also if you ask me, it is never too early in a day to vote, as long as you are firm in your decision. Towards the end of the day is when you really need to be careful of your votes. The last thing that any townie wants is to get the vote just far enough away so that the wolves can jump on and finish the lynching before anyone can change their minds. Also what do you mean that Smacktack does not have a role that we should care about? Do you know anything about Smacktack's role?
@Chanman:
It seems more likely to me that fire spin really just wanted to see if I would freak out and act suspicious if someone suspected me as a wolf.
@DukeFireBird:
I agree with you that Tate is a very possible role in this game. It seems likely that he would have a simliar, if not exactly the same role as Liz. Very helpful.
@Fire spin:
i would ask you to please explain to me how my posts seem suspicious. From the beginning I have always tried to make the main point of each of my posts has been to ask people to think out their posts carefully as it is with this one. I especially do not see how anything I said after FJM died proves me suspicious.
To everyone:
I really dont see what points to Diaz as a priest. I'm sure that he was the person in the bubble that was targeted by everyone the first night, and the one who was in the barrier that faltered last night. I do not however see how this is proof that he is a priest. All it says is that he was targeted multiple times, and the he targeted someone. As I have said before, he could have any number of roles. I would also like to point out that if we are looking at suspicious people we should probably start with people who have been switching the vote multiple times which seems like a much more wolfy thing to do than trying to get people to think out their votes.
DarthPika
New Member
But you aren't trying to get people to think out their votes. You're trying to cause disruption, and confusion. I can't believe that you STILL doubt Diaz being the priest, even though the evidence overwhelmingly is pointing towards it. Right now I think I would rather have people who change their votes around than someone who keeps trying to stir up trouble.
Keep it up, and you'll have my vote for being a threat to the town SG. We can not tolerate voters who try to stir up trouble on an issue that is all but settled. All it does is cause confusion among the newer players, and can potentially result in the loss of an innocent townie.
For the record, if Diaz is to die and proven to be the Priest, I will make sure that you are the next one lynched. The fact that you keep trying to say that he's probably not the priest makes the odds of you being a townie very slim if he does infact turn out to be the priest should be be killed.
I'll post more later once I have time to think over a few things.
Keep it up, and you'll have my vote for being a threat to the town SG. We can not tolerate voters who try to stir up trouble on an issue that is all but settled. All it does is cause confusion among the newer players, and can potentially result in the loss of an innocent townie.
For the record, if Diaz is to die and proven to be the Priest, I will make sure that you are the next one lynched. The fact that you keep trying to say that he's probably not the priest makes the odds of you being a townie very slim if he does infact turn out to be the priest should be be killed.
I'll post more later once I have time to think over a few things.
shinygyarados
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Ok first of all, I was totally ready to let this drop since I realized it wasnt going anywhere, which was the whole reason I made that post about the Trainers. No one else felt the need to bring up the fact that I doubted Diaz except you, how is that for trying to cause disruption? Everyone else was fine with talking about other theories that they had except for you. Also notice that I tried to concentrate as much as I could on other subjects in my latest post, but you managed to focus on just that part.
Also please tell me how thinking that Diaz isnt the priest has anything to do with whether or not I am a townie. I, for one, am a little suspicious of someone who role claims to save themselves from dying. I have stated many times that that is what most of my suspicion is based off of. I am not saying that I think that Diaz needs to be voted off today. Heck Im not even saying that he needs to be voted off ever. All I was saying was that we should not be so willing to trust Diaz.
What it comes down to for me is this: I was already a little suspicious of Diaz just like everyone else seemed to be, including you. When he role claimed, many, if not all but one, dropped their suspicions and moved on to other theories. My suspicion, on the other hand, grew. I am however ready to set aside that suspicion for today in the hopes that we can find even stronger evidence that someone else is against us. You however seem unable to let go of your suspicion of me.
I would also like to say that I have NEVER cast a vote against Diaz, so I do not understand where you are coming from with me trying to get him voted off. All that I ever wanted to come from my posts was for people to think more carefully about their posts.
I would like to move on to see if we cant find evidence a little stronger than: "overly aggresive"
Also please tell me how thinking that Diaz isnt the priest has anything to do with whether or not I am a townie. I, for one, am a little suspicious of someone who role claims to save themselves from dying. I have stated many times that that is what most of my suspicion is based off of. I am not saying that I think that Diaz needs to be voted off today. Heck Im not even saying that he needs to be voted off ever. All I was saying was that we should not be so willing to trust Diaz.
What it comes down to for me is this: I was already a little suspicious of Diaz just like everyone else seemed to be, including you. When he role claimed, many, if not all but one, dropped their suspicions and moved on to other theories. My suspicion, on the other hand, grew. I am however ready to set aside that suspicion for today in the hopes that we can find even stronger evidence that someone else is against us. You however seem unable to let go of your suspicion of me.
I would also like to say that I have NEVER cast a vote against Diaz, so I do not understand where you are coming from with me trying to get him voted off. All that I ever wanted to come from my posts was for people to think more carefully about their posts.
I would like to move on to see if we cant find evidence a little stronger than: "overly aggresive"
Lucario EX
Moderator<br>Fanfic Contest Host
Seriously, what else was he supposed to do? Not dying is sort of a good idea, you know.
DarthPika, you've been defending Diaz completely all game, even before he roleclaimed IIRC. It's pretty much the only thing you've said at all, though. And it clearly isn't just due to any desire to keep from lynching people quickly, as you haven't defended anyone else nearly as much. Why? I'm inclined to think that you two are working together somehow. Post a rational defense, or else.
z-man
New Member
Guys, I doubt ShiningGyarados is really at fault. IDK. Killing him... you might as well roll your dice
Say a prayer in LA
See the angels quit...
but only agents play
But, if you roll your dice
on the lonely track
you can be a star
and win the angels back
What will ya'll do?
As for red vs blue, let them argue. One of them will probably tire out sooner or later.
Honestly, I have no idea what's going on otherwise. I'll read next year (its 11:53 PM here at the time of the post).
Say a prayer in LA
See the angels quit...
but only agents play
But, if you roll your dice
on the lonely track
you can be a star
and win the angels back
What will ya'll do?
As for red vs blue, let them argue. One of them will probably tire out sooner or later.
Honestly, I have no idea what's going on otherwise. I'll read next year (its 11:53 PM here at the time of the post).
jameswilliams1324
New Member
Lol you porbally just skimmed through the night update, Ikrit was blue and he got killed.
Diaz
New Member
I won't be posting as much for the next 3 days, due to city championships. I apologize for this absence during a time when I probably should be posting plenty. I will probably have time for a couple posts during sat/sun.
@lucario
He and I are not working together. There's plenty of evidence that suggests I'm town aligned. (note that both people that died at night defended me to some degree) Assuming I'm town-aligned, there's no reason for me to lie to the town, as that can only hurt the town. I'm not a fan or your whole "or else" mentality btw.
@lucario
He and I are not working together. There's plenty of evidence that suggests I'm town aligned. (note that both people that died at night defended me to some degree) Assuming I'm town-aligned, there's no reason for me to lie to the town, as that can only hurt the town. I'm not a fan or your whole "or else" mentality btw.
Same i have city championships for the next three days I should be able to post saturday night though some.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
New Member
I am for the Tate and Liza theory. Seeing as Tate isn't dead, I almost suspect that Tate (or was it Liza?) has an "Ice Climbers"-like role where it works better when Liza's alive.
I guess my stance on Cardkeeper is unwarranted. Nonetheless, TimeForPain's suspicion of him may have some ground, and I all suggest that we keep an eye on Cardkeeper. I think that's reasonable enough.
As for ShinyGyarados and DarthPika, their little argument is rather comical. We have ShinyGyarados who'd like to see Diaz dead, and then we have DarthPika who'd like to keep him alive at any cost. I'd compare them to the two sides of a coin.
As for them, though, ShinyyGyarados is far from agressive, in my opinion. He seems to be stubbornly convinced that Diaz isn't the priest, despite the heavy evidence set against him. But I kind of like that. Even when the facts states overwhelm him, he perseveres with what I find to be excellent points. Therefore, I vouch to keep ShinyGyarados alive. We need people like that who stick to their guns. Unlike many other spineless bandwagoners of the town, he doesn't vote change just depending on who's "popular" to vote for.
Then on the flipside of the coin, we have DarthPika. He is incredibly heck-bent on keeping Diaz alive. Seeing as Diaz has significantly favorable evidence towards him, DarthPika's intent is noble. He sincerely seems to want to the help the town.
Of course, he could also be a Werewolf, trying to stand by the Priest's side... in the eyes of the town. Notice how almost every post in this game is DEDICATED to keeping Diaz alive. It almost varies on obsession.
On a final note, this post isn't intended to accuse anyone. I am simply stating what might be, not what is. Either of the two I have mentioned could as easily be Werewolves as they could be townsfolk.
Concerning ShinyGyarados, guys, let's not vote someone off just because they vary from the typical, bandwagoning townsmember. And also remember: someone who doesn't vote isn't agressive.
Concerning DarthPika, you really should relax a little bit. Diaz is almost confirmed to be the priest, and so your constant OCDD (obsessive-compulsive-Diaz-disorder) is -- really -- uneeded.
My advice in closing: we've got four more days of game-time left. The only vote you SHOULD be making at this point is:
Vote: Undecided
And there my rant ends. xD Focus: we've lost two important members of the town; let's kill a Werewolf today.
I guess my stance on Cardkeeper is unwarranted. Nonetheless, TimeForPain's suspicion of him may have some ground, and I all suggest that we keep an eye on Cardkeeper. I think that's reasonable enough.
As for ShinyGyarados and DarthPika, their little argument is rather comical. We have ShinyGyarados who'd like to see Diaz dead, and then we have DarthPika who'd like to keep him alive at any cost. I'd compare them to the two sides of a coin.
As for them, though, ShinyyGyarados is far from agressive, in my opinion. He seems to be stubbornly convinced that Diaz isn't the priest, despite the heavy evidence set against him. But I kind of like that. Even when the facts states overwhelm him, he perseveres with what I find to be excellent points. Therefore, I vouch to keep ShinyGyarados alive. We need people like that who stick to their guns. Unlike many other spineless bandwagoners of the town, he doesn't vote change just depending on who's "popular" to vote for.
Then on the flipside of the coin, we have DarthPika. He is incredibly heck-bent on keeping Diaz alive. Seeing as Diaz has significantly favorable evidence towards him, DarthPika's intent is noble. He sincerely seems to want to the help the town.
Of course, he could also be a Werewolf, trying to stand by the Priest's side... in the eyes of the town. Notice how almost every post in this game is DEDICATED to keeping Diaz alive. It almost varies on obsession.
On a final note, this post isn't intended to accuse anyone. I am simply stating what might be, not what is. Either of the two I have mentioned could as easily be Werewolves as they could be townsfolk.
Concerning ShinyGyarados, guys, let's not vote someone off just because they vary from the typical, bandwagoning townsmember. And also remember: someone who doesn't vote isn't agressive.
Concerning DarthPika, you really should relax a little bit. Diaz is almost confirmed to be the priest, and so your constant OCDD (obsessive-compulsive-Diaz-disorder
) is -- really -- uneeded.My advice in closing: we've got four more days of game-time left. The only vote you SHOULD be making at this point is:
Vote: Undecided
And there my rant ends. xD Focus: we've lost two important members of the town; let's kill a Werewolf today.