WEREWOLF XII: Cyrus's Revenge!! ENDGAME Planning for next WW game inside

[Sandslash7]

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@SG. Couldn't the wolves and team galactic be two different independent parties? We have the man who threw himself against the barrier night one, then the people who shot at the excavator night one. I'd say that the one that threw himself against the barrier is more likely to be a wolf. If that is true, than the wolves did target him night one and have yet to make a kill.

Also, however long Diaz gets priest protection is controlled by the priest protecting him, end of story. Now let's stop talking about Diaz, didn't we have enough of that on day one?

VOTE: Undecided

About your first point. Absol has pretty much said that Galactic is the wolves. Any other groups are either indies or townies.


~Diaz: Interesting catch. Hatter does seem to have some sort of suspiciousness about him.

I'm also almost positive we've got a mimic-er/ditto role again. Though the fact it can work through a barrier is interesting.

 

[pokemon99]

Fine, thissss isssss my role.

Role: SSSSSensssse

--If i am targeted by a persssson with a non killing role, I have a 75% chance of avoiding it.
--If i am targeted by a perssssson or a wolf with a killing role, i have a 50% chance of avoiding the kill.

--If i am targeted by any role and sssstill live, i have a 25% chance of learning who targeted me and what role they usssssed.

But I alssssso have a ssssspeech drawback. When I posssst, I need to extend my ‘Sssss’sssss becaussssse bug Pokémon hissssssssssssss.

 

[Pikamaster]

Fine, thissss isssss my role.

Role: SSSSSensssse

--If i am targeted by a persssson with a non killing role, I have a 75% chance of avoiding it.
--If i am targeted by a perssssson or a wolf with a killing role, i have a 50% chance of avoiding the kill.

--If i am targeted by any role and sssstill live, i have a 25% chance of learning who targeted me and what role they usssssed.

But I alssssso have a ssssspeech drawback. When I posssst, I need to extend my ‘Sssss’sssss becaussssse bug Pokémon hissssssssssssss.

You didn't have to role reveal, nobody was questioning you.

 

[pokemon99]

well, it now meanssssss that I have nothing to losssse and can reveal my findingsssss freely and help the town more

 

[PkB_]

WEll on wolves thing: Do you guys rember how AT has been talking how he is trying something new in this game? Well it has passed through my mind that this new game mechanic is instead of having 3 win condition groups [town, wolf, indie] that you would add Cyrus's new team and now you would have 4 seperate win condition groups [Team Galactic-whoever they are, Cyrus's new team-whoever they are, Townies and Indies] We know that team Galactic are the wolfs [Night updates] but I don't really see how Cyrus's new team fits into the equation.

 

[DukeFireBird]

why did you role reveal? You did read the rules on the game, right?

Also, I read over homeofmews role, and Tate should be in the game. I am just suprised they arent a lovers/couple role though.

PkB, interesting thought, maybe we can consider expanding on that notion, but for now, we need to find a wolf.

Pokemon99, you can confirm Hatter targetted you? What all do you know about him?

 

[PkB_]

See I jsut don;t see how Team Black Hole fits into this equation. It doesn't appear as if they have an every night killing role like the wolfs [Unless Team Black whole is our Knifed Ninja] so I wonder what thier win condition is and what kinda of roles they have.

 

[Meesie6x6]

Since team Black Hole hates Team galactic i thnk they have there own win condition, OR that the whole team galactic is defeated something like that.

 

[sdrawkcab]

FYI: I have not been reading every post, unfortunately as a (wanna be) full time student, i don't really have the time for that...

From what have read however Do we even know if their are wolves in this version of the game?

Based on what I know about myself (which really means nothing aside from being able to speak backwards) based on what I know about the game: (((town vs not town) usually town vs wolves) (or mafia or vampire or etc...)) & that in the past online Are you a warewolf games here on pokegym nothing is ever "ordinary"
I have come to the conclusion that we can't honestly tell what there is out there.

There are mason groups : Team Black Hole & Team Galactic (I'm assuming)
There are Individual players: rogue warriors just playing by themselves
There are town folk: just minding their own business trying to not get killed

Obviously people are getting killed, but for the sake of argument lets pretend we're playing CSI pokegym and not Are you a warewolf pokegym...

my point here is that I don't asume it's the groups behind the killings. And don't vote people off "on a hunch" or " because someone else told you so" CONVINCE you're self you're right and if your unable to do that...then you won't EVER be able to find the actual guilty person.

In other words DON'T asume its the groups killing people and please take my word for it (if i havnt convinced you) that is MOST LIKELY the individual players playing for them selves (discuised as wolves) killing people....or even a combination of both.

Based on his (or hers?) behavior in Day 2 (I havn't read much of day 3 yet) I find DIAZ very suspecious (leading the towns conversation claiming to be a seer (or close to) without evidence only to vote of a town folk?) Therefor (unless convinced otherwise) I will be:

VOTE DIAZ

Also, I will be as bold to ask for protection tonight...I fear that either the "wolf" group (if there is one) or the individual rogues might want my head after telling the crowed what is actually going on.

Thanks!

Ekim

 

[Diaz]

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Based on his (or hers?) behavior in Day 2 (I havn't read much of day 3 yet) I find DIAZ very suspecious (leading the towns conversation claiming to be a seer (or close to) without evidence only to vote of a town folk?)

Get back to us when you read day 3.

why did you role reveal? You did read the rules on the game, right?

I’m not convinced it was that bad of an idea to role reveal. (making sure its not a c/p) He could be a great asset to the town. P99, you need to post as often as possible as you are one of very few highly likely townies.

We’ll know more about the different alignments when we start killing some enemies to the town.

 

[DarthPika]

Backwards, please read out day 3 before making a vote.

In fact, @ EVERYONE

Please make sure you read all of the updates, and all the days before making a vote. There is a LOT of information that you can get out of Absol's updates, and even more if you look at what was said during the day, and then compare it to the update to try and find similarities/patterns.

Backwards, I'm not so sure you have the greatest logic on that. It seems to me kind of a random idea that it's every man for him self/vs the town. So far, I've seen no evidence what so ever to support your hypothesis. I like that you're thinking out side the box, but right now I don't quite understand the logic behind your current idea.

 

[pokemon99]

i can confirm that Hatter targeted me with a role in night 1. However, the other part of my role did not work (finding out what role he ussssssed). My information can be figured out by reading the night 1 update. And, Hatter hassss yet to posssst sssstating his reasssson to be near me.

If i find out any other information, i will posssssst it ASSSSSSAP.

Alsssssso, would you rather me talk like thisssss? or turn all my SSSSSSS'ssssss into Z'sssss?

 

[sdrawkcab]

In regards to me not reading day three in its entirety I was simply refering to individuals posts...I have read everyone of absol's post as well as a few select players I like to keep an eye on (any vetrain player)

Perhaps I should reword my idea:

We as a community are either assuming (based on other games) or reinforcing the idea that THERE HAS TO BE a wolf mason group...IE a group thats going around killing people every night.

In absol's posts from night 1 & 2 we can verify there has been AT LEAST two murder attempts both nights...possibly more?

So either there is a wolf group & rogue bounty hunters or there is multiple bounty hunters with no wolf group.

Notice how in absol's night summary posts people arn't getting eaten alive in their sleep? Only a slight clue that probably doesn't mean anything, but who knows?

 

[Sandslash7]

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We as a community are either assuming (based on other games) or reinforcing the idea that THERE HAS TO BE a wolf mason group...IE a group thats going around killing people every night.

Yes. We are assuming that. Because that is how the game is played. Team Galactic is the wolves, a clear 'mason group killing association'

In absol's posts from night 1 & 2 we can verify there has been AT LEAST two murder attempts both nights...possibly more?

And? This says nothing other than there are independents. In a previous game (I don't recall which), there were 4 independents out of22- 24 people. That means a possible 5 night kills per night. What we are seeing is nothing out of the ordinary, especially with 37 players to start with.

So either there is a wolf group & rogue bounty hunters or there is multiple bounty hunters with no wolf group.

Why would anyone EVER assume there are no wolves? This is werewolf we are playing.

Notice how in absol's night summary posts people arn't getting eaten alive in their sleep? Only a slight clue that probably doesn't mean anything, but who knows?

Again, this is not anything out of the ordinary. In other wolf games (see the Team Galactic one modded by Absol) some humans were werewolves who shot their victims with pistols.

Sdrawkcab, please read the bold. What are you intimating with your lines of thought?

 

[Pikamaster]

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Sdrawkcab, please read the bold. What are you intimating with your lines of thought?

I think that backwards is saying that there aren't any wolves, but two mason groups, Team Galactic and Team Black Hole and that they both get a kill every night.

I do not know if that's what (s)he really was trying to say, just my guess.

 

[DarthPika]

I think that backwards is saying that there aren't any wolves, but two mason groups, Team Galactic and Team Black Hole and that they both get a kill every night.

I do not know if that's what (s)he really was trying to say, just my guess.

Backwards is a guy... read his sig. ;P

Really though, I see no reason that this isn't like the other WW games. It so far has been going a lot like absols last one. Unless there is something MAJORLY weird going on, I don't see any evidence to support what backwards is saying. I suggest we look at something else, as this is kind of a waste of time IMO.

 

[d master342]

Yeah, they get two kills a night. By they I mean

Team Galactic-Wolves
Team Black Hole-Masons
Townsfolk (might include Independents...)-Townies.

I see no reason no wolves are playing in this game.

dmaster out.

 

[Diaz]

In regards to me not reading day three in its entirety I was simply refering to individuals posts...I have read everyone of absol's post as well as a few select players I like to keep an eye on (any vetrain player)

Perhaps I should reword my idea:

We as a community are either assuming (based on other games) or reinforcing the idea that THERE HAS TO BE a wolf mason group...IE a group thats going around killing people every night.

In absol's posts from night 1 & 2 we can verify there has been AT LEAST two murder attempts both nights...possibly more?

So either there is a wolf group & rogue bounty hunters or there is multiple bounty hunters with no wolf group.

Notice how in absol's night summary posts people arn't getting eaten alive in their sleep? Only a slight clue that probably doesn't mean anything, but who knows?

So you read day 3 and you are standing by your vote? I think that’s pretty ridiculous.

As to the whole “no wolves” idea, it could be true, but it doesn’t make any difference, we still need to kill the members of groups that are killing townies. Even if your theory is correct, I don’t think it changes the way we need to play the game, so it’s irrelevant to discuss further.

P99, anything interesting happen with your role night 2?

I think that hatter needs to weigh in on what’s going on, as his name has come up in a pretty significant fashion. I think that everyone else who hasn’t posted yet today needs to do some major catching up and make some meaningful contributions.

Somebody please bring up something relevant to discuss, as we only have a couple real life days to make a lynch. I’m pretty out of ideas, but unless hatter speaks up, I could see lynching him.

As for right now:
backwardS :etoV

Oh... I mean

Vote: Sdrawkcab

Your vote for me doesn't make sense at this point in the game. When you unvote me, I will unvote you. If you stand by your vote, my vote stands, as that would be extremely wolfy behavior. I believed that once you had read more of day 3, you would realize that your vote for me was a bad idea.

 

[Jason]

In defense of Diaz, I can tell that Diaz is actually not a Wolf, and in fact a townie. Without furthur hassle, I hereby cast my vote now.

VOTE:Sdrawkcab

 

[Azure Kite]

Backwards, I hope you can understand how you're not exactly making sense to me or anyone else. "Werewolves" are the bad guys in this game. They were in Werewolf I, and they are in Werewolf XII. Sure there are less "animal" references in this game. But Team Galactic has been revealed to try for a kill both nights, and AT has not tried to hide that. Notice how with all the other kills, we know nothing about the people who tried to kill? With Team Galactic, we are always blatantly told Team Galactic killed someone. As if we are to be expecting it. And we should. Sandslash7 also brings up a valid point. The wolves shot people with .45s in past games. To be honest you kind of disappoint me Backwards, it's really not something I'd expect from a past winner, and someone who I have personally witnessed make some brilliant moves.(i.e. when you were Gyarados) It has long been accepted AND expected for there to kill one kill from the "bad" team every night, which is generally the wolves. Then there may be 1 or maybe 2 more kills from Independants. I see NOTHING to suggest otherwise.

See, there's this little thing called 'evidence' that can back up your argument. Sometimes it even outright proves it. If you could show me some of that, I might look in to your theory a little further. But you have to understand, just suggesting something like this, however true it may actually be, when you have NOTHING to even suggest your right, is really going to make you look fishy, and very few would even consider the idea. If there's something I've picked up in Werewolf games, it's be careful with what you say. One wrong thing said, ESPECIALLY when it's nearing the deadline, and people are desperate for a vote, can cost you your life.

Finally, after all this discussion if Diaz, why are you still going after him? This should be over and done with but you are keeping it going. Why do you want to vote off the almost definitely priest? You most certainly don't need protection, because right now you're doing the wolves a favor. The townspeople will become your biggest enemy. Remember that little thing I was talking about earlier called 'evidence'? Drop your arguments and vote or start providing some of that, before it's too late.