Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

WEREWOLF XV: Pokemon Wars: GAME END: TOWN WINS!!!!! See Post 2547 for Final Update!

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A/AM, I agree with your initial assessment on numbers expect the possibility on 2 in the empire group. I still think we need to consider the possibility of JewelQuest as potential Empire. Lighting abilities and the already revealed Baby Mario potential for conversion, gives me pause to consider the possibility.

@Jellyfisher, you indicated there was more to follow on King Piplup and Dragoncyclone725. Care to share? I still have them neutral leaning town... What came of your powers last night? Also can you confirm what room you were in, I think I know but would appreciate the confirmation.

@gallade, anything to report?

Vote: the King

@the King: Care to claim a room or TWO last night in which you were in???? Who did you "follow" last night? Care to provide a timeline of activities each night. Who you "followed" and with what result? You claim this ability and brought it out to plant the seeds of doubt on the claims of a "self proclaimed" detective. Who I will add has been right about his suspicious list. I also don't see how you've been helping the town, and I get a real "lurking" vibe from you.

TheKing said:
Okay want to know why I'm suspicious of jellyfisher? Last night, I followed jellyfisher into the engine room and saw him sneaking around in there. He claims to be the detective and said he targeted jpulice last night. In the update there are two people targeting someone. The first is a robed man who gives something to another man. The second is a man in black robes who is Giovanni. So jellyfisher could be Giovanni or the other robed man. Now jellyfisher claims to have used his role on 3 others besides jpulice, but I can only find one other update where there is a robed man which is night 4 (That's what I wanted to know earlier, not night 5) That update is here

In that same night, I saw SandSlash7 following someone in the control room. When I first recieved this information, I couldn't tell who he was because of all the people in there, but now after several nights have passed, I think I know. There is a pokemon being protected, but using logic If sandslash was in the protection dome, then he wouldn't be able to follow anyone. Darth Pikachu is cabd, but SS7 could have been one of the other empire in the room, that would also make sense. He probably isn't the man squatting in the rafters because that wouldn't fit in with him following some one. The mechanic is AAM and the man in black robes is waynegg. The dark jedi don't seem to be following anybody and the jedi don't either. So that leaves the cloaked man who spoke to the woman or one of the empire.

So either jellyfisher lied about him being detective and is Giovanni and had that information because he targeted jpulice but nothing happened, or jellyfisher actually is the detective an d SS7 is a wolf/ empire or whatever you want to call it.
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Dragonclyne725 ~ Good analysis.


Jellyfisher ~ My claim to be non-Sith non-Wolf stems from:
  1. I was in a room where the wolves/sith were not during the night.
  2. I was electrocuted, which would have had some effect on my actions during the night (the jedi/sith fight). There was no evidence of one of the sith/wolves being impaired by burns. 10000V is nothing to sneeze at.
  3. The Purple and Blue (Red and Blue?) pokemon saw this happen. I don't know who this is, but I would assume that that pokemon was some type of seer/detective, and could vouch for me.

If you have something that makes the room-placement clear irrelevant, I have a hunch I know what you are talking about. I do stand by that update, and feel it shows that I was not participating in either the Sith OR the Wolf roles, but if you feel that that is insufficient, then we'll address it.



I do have something you might want to know, however. Whether you believe me or not, you CAN have access to the Force and town-aligned without being a Jedi. I am one.



Your thoughts about TheKing seem to be correct. During the night period, I looked back at your posts (as well as that night update where you were burned), and I believe that you are the detective. TheKing does dichotomize our positions, but the third option might be the most correct. The Black Cloak does give something to someone. As we saw from this most recent update, the black cloak did waylay a member of the town, who then appeared sporting a new badge. (The symbol for the New Jedi Order, FYI) . These symbols are in chronological order.


MID POST REVELATION!!!
I THINK I'VE FOUND THE SITH'S REMAINING WIN CONDITION!!!!

In 130 ABY, there is finally a New Sith Empire. This new empire is but 1-2 symbols away. Do you want to know the name of this new empire? The Empire of "One Sith"


If the Sith must eliminate all the other Sith, as well as all of the Jedi, AND have a third condition, that MUST mean that they have to reach the One Sith era. Those three conditions seem to fit perfectly within the frame Absol has provided. This is beginning to feel like Absol's last game, where Cyrus and TBH placed a time-limit on the town before their machination were completed.


I fear if we leave any Sith alive, regardless of their assistance in killing Ikrit, they will win the game and we as the town will lose, suppressed under their tyrannical dictatorship.



If you strongly believe TheKing is Giovanni, then I gladly vote for him. TheKing tried to distract the town by placing the target on both of our heads, but it is HIM who now has the target on his head. We must not leave any Sith OR Wolves alive.


VOTE: TheKing



Wobbufett still is an enigma. I haven't been able to ascertain his actions these past few nights, and it seems like he is a practical man, keeping out of the way of everyone else. I don't think he is town. I feel he's definitely an independent, but I don't know what his win condition is. So far, he hasn't shown any hostility towards the town, but that means that either his win condition is insidious, or he is choosing to align with the town. Either way I'd like some clarification from PCPB.



* If you get the reference in the last paragraph, 2 internet cookies for you.
 
Vote: TheKing

The sith are going to kill us all...

I don't fully understand, SS7. What are you saying the 3rd win condition is Obviously it must have something to do with the tattoos going around. Here are all the people to get tattoos. Two tattoos went out on night three.

Dave628 - Town priest
Pikamaster - Indie Night Killer
Arcanine/Arbok Master
PokechampofPokebeach
CardzMaster2004
JellyFisher

Jellyfisher, who did you target last night and what did you learn?
 
I'm suggesting that Giovanni/the Sith have to hand out badges until we reach the One Sith badge. At that point their role becomes a race to eliminate the Jedi and the other Sith (a free-for-all), and if One Sith is left, then that Sith wins.


I'm not positive that this is their final win condition, but it seems to fit the information we have.
 
Vote: theking
I am nearly positive of theking's role as Giovanni. My roles results describe him nearly exactly as shown in the update.
Also Sandslash7, I believe the reason the update does not clear you is that i
seems wolves choose a room to go to after making the kill, and this room is where they would be displayed in the update.
Since I have today off from school, I should be able to reread Ikrit for who he was defending and such.
 
jellyfisher said:
No comment.

I might be on later today to respond to SS7, but I'm not sure if I will have time.
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So if you have been targeted by the "No comment" power, then can redados finally say something?


sandslash7 said:
The Purple and Blue (Red and Blue?) pokemon saw this happen. I don't know who this is, but I would assume that that pokemon was some type of seer/detective, and could vouch for me.
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Sorry, my role hasn't worked yet, failed every time, and thus I have nothing to reveal.

AGG AGT CTC AGT CCT AGT AGC
 
Attention: I will make a post tomorrow when ai can get to aCPU. Please DO NOT lynch until ai have posted.
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Concerning my alignment, (aside from my word, of course), my only factual defenses are that I am more Pokemon than man and that my actions during the day (and from the updates, during the night, as well) have been impeccable. I will also say (and again, you'll have to take my word on this) that you guys know everything there is to know about my role. Whether this proves that I am town-aligned or not, is up to you. My word is only worth so much.

Aside from that, there's nothing I can contribute to the discussion that hasn't been said already. theKing is scummy. Aside from jellyfisher's evidence, I think his playstyle proves it. He's only said so much and contributed so much to the discussion. He hasn't taken any real chances out there with his posts. This is a very defensive move played by someone with a power-role.

Vote: theKing
 
Before I say anything else, I'll admit, yes I am Giovanni, but my win condition has changed. Part of my role was that if I hadn't eliminated all the other force sensitive characters iin 6 days, then I could ally myself with the jedi as shown in the update. So lynching me right now is essentially lynching a jedi and it would only helpo the remaining wolves.
 
TheKing said:
Before I say anything else, I'll admit, yes I am Giovanni, but my win condition has changed. Part of my role was that if I hadn't eliminated all the other force sensitive characters iin 6 days, then I could ally myself with the jedi as shown in the update. So lynching me right now is essentially lynching a jedi and it would only helpo the remaining wolves.
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Ok, so you admit to being the leader of the Sith. That totally helps your case here.

Lynching you Today would not be the same as lynching a Jedi because you are still a Sith, and your alliance claim sounds fishy to me.

From the Update:

Absoltrainer said:
He hadn’t notice that all the Sith, including Giovanni were gone. Their temporary alliance had been worthwhile, and Emperor had been defeated.
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It is possible that you are telling the truth about your alliance, but from the Update it seems more like you joined with the Jedi JUST to defeat Darth Sideous that one Night. ("The enemy of my enemy is my friend", until that enemy is defeated, then my enemy is once again my enemy)

I will hold my vote until after Redados1's post
 
Yeah, I'm not buying that. In the update, you said "for now" when you helped the Jedi. Secondly, there are a couple of things that could happen to the rest of your Sith.One is that the Sith are now on their own, in which case you could easily out them to the town, knowing who they are. The other possibility is that the entire Sith was converted. However, I believe this is not the case, because eliminating the entire Sith party seems to good to be true for the town and newly aligned Sith. The other problem with not lynching you is that even if you are who you claim, the biggest threat to the town is the Sith. There are 5 dead wolves, so most likely only one left. On the other hand, waynegg is the only lynched Sith, meaning there are quite a few Sith left. Therefore, if we choose to believe you, and you are still aligned with the Sith, we give the Sith a very good chance of winning. Therefore, If we lynch you, we have on less Sith left, regardless of your current alignment.
So, theking, which is it. Are the rest of your Sith joined with the town or would you care to out your old friends.
 
Scottistru said:
On the other hand, waynegg is the only lynched Sith, meaning there are quite a few Sith left. Therefore, if we choose to believe you, and you are still aligned with the Sith, we give the Sith a very good chance of winning. Therefore, If we lynch you, we have on less Sith left, regardless of your current alignment.
So, theking, which is it. Are the rest of your Sith joined with the town or would you care to out your old friends.
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The Update mentions Giovanni and two other Sith, meaning 3 Sith in total.

Also from the Update:

Absoltrainer said:
The Emperor lifted his right hand, and the Imperials behind him retreated, possibly taking up positions.
...
The other Imperials appeared from the shadows and opened fire on the Jedi.
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It is clearly stated as "Imperials" in plural, meaning Emperor Palpatine was with 2 or more other Imperials.

If my assumptions are correct:

3 Sith
2 maybe 3 Imperials

I'm leaning towards there being 2 Imperials left in the game, just because having 7 wolves in the game would be strange.
 
DragonClyne725 said:
Room-by-Room Night Summary

Barracks
-Woman gets out of bed
-Sees yellow Pokemon sleeping peacefully
-Sees creature sitting up in bed
-Man armed with a very large weapon walks by
-Sees heavily armed and armored individual leaning against a wall, “waiting for the night to end”
-Thinks she sees a green and white Pokemon crouched in the shadows

Hanger
-Woman enters Hanger
-Sees a lone man starring off in space with “a somewhat disappointed look on his face. Clearly things didn’t go as he had planned”

Engine Room
-Woman peeks in Engine Room
-Sees man in the corner, “waiting as he always had.”
-Sees blue and red Pokemon starring off into space
-Man covered in grime attaches something to a piece of machinery, and works on a bolt
-A man watches from the steel beams above
-Assumes no one sees him, someone in a dark cloak pushes him and drags him off
-A man in a brown cloak goes where the other man left

Laboratory
-Woman grabs what she needs
-No one in the immediate area

Barracks
-Woman enters Barracks and goes to the ventilation shaft in a corner of the room
-She sets up a camera spike, and begins dispensing robotic drones and materials down the vent
-A robotic arm lowers from the ceiling, picks up something, and smacks someone
-Arm retracts, and moans of pain are heard
-Woman hears footsteps and hides
-Emperor Palpatine and Imperials appear and identify the woman as Nurse Joy
-Three Jedi in brown robes appear
-Palpatine kills Nurse Joy and fights Jedi using Force controlled Lightsabers
-Palpatine Blows a hole through to the Hanger and brings a missile into the room and launches it at Jedi
-Jedi use the Force to stop it, and are assisted by two black-cloaked Sith and Giovanni
-Giovanni identifies the Master Jedi as Katarn
-Palpatine does some cool lightning shield, uses the force on all weapons in the room and attacks
-Katarn is seen using Sith lightning, and says, “I'm no Jedi; I'm just a guy with a Lightsaber and a few questions”
-Roserade comes out of nowhere, penetrates the lightning shield, and burns Palpatine
-Giovanni stabs Palpatine, and Katarn uses the Force to activate and launch Lightsabers at Palpatine
-Giovanni, Sith, and Imperials disappear

RESULTS
-Toxictapian (Nurse Joy – Town [Priest]) Dead
-Ikrit (Emperor Palpatine – Alpha Wolf) Dead
-JewelQuest (replaced Spartacus) beaten and bruised
-LegendCallerL replaced by Gaelen1227
-Jellyfisher wearing a badge http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t18/Absoltrainer/WWII.jpg
-Commlink spotted in Barracks, PM for pickup
-Engine Room no longer accessible

THOUGHTS
-My guess is that the yellow pokemon sleeping in the Barracks was Jolteon, and was also the one who was hit by the random robotic arm (This would explain why no one was zapped last night). Since Spartacus/JewelQuest was found with bruises, I think this confirms that they are Jolteon.
-Also, if y'all are interested: Kyle Katarn
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Thank you. And yes, I stand by Spartacus's role reveal: I am Jolteon.
And if I need to prove it, tell me who to shock next game night.

Before we go lynching TheKing, I think we should think of our other options. I honestly think that lynching him is alright, but is there anyone else that might be a potential lynch?

And I'd like to point out that Jellyfisher did try to tell us that Ikrit was Emperor Palpatine, and he was right.

For now my vote is undecided. I'd like to hear what Redados1 has to say before voting.
 
Sorry, I've been really busy with semester exams this week. Quick note, I don't believe theking's win condition change.


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DragonClyne725 said:
It is clearly stated as "Imperials" in plural, meaning Emperor Palpatine was with 2 or more other Imperials.

If my assumptions are correct:

3 Sith
2 maybe 3 Imperials

I'm leaning towards there being 2 Imperials left in the game, just because having 7 wolves in the game would be strange.
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I more or less agree with this. There are of course 3 Sith left, and probably 2 wolves, but I wouldn't be overly surprised if there were 3 left.

Redados1 said:
Ite sorry, itd be best if i posted when theking has eight votes
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And could you tell us why? It isn't a great idea to put a confirmed sith/wolf at the most number of votes they can have without getting lynched, so I think you need to do more then just say "it would be best if he had eight votes before I post."

DragonClyne, I would like you to tell me what room you were in last night. I might also need you to say who you were in the update, or even role reveal, but I want to see if just telling me your location is enough before I ask for something like that.

SS7, this is why I don't think that update clears you.

Absoltrainer said:
The Jedi with the blue blade smiled and said nothing. Two more snap-hiss’s broke the brief silence, and a topaz and blue blade broke the silence.
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So we know that one of the Jedi has a topaz Lightsaber. And since it seems AT gives the special colors to one Jedi, there should only be one of that color.

Here is another quote from the same night.

Absoltrainer said:
The Emperor was almost three-fourths of the way finished. As he rounded the final quarter, a woman yelled in startled surprise and a few moments later the barrier flickered and fell. Mara saw her chance and did a forward front flip, attempting to bring her foot down on Palpatine. The Sith Lord saw it coming however and with a burst of speed moved out of the way. Mara Jade landed, and pulled out her Lightsaber. A moment later her topaz blade pierced the darkness.
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So it would seem that a person can appear in two rooms in one night. Unless someone else is running around with a topaz Lightsaber. But I don't think that's very likely since I didn't notice one last night update.
 
This ship is going to collapse any minute...

Well, theking, that was an interesting last ditch claim, but it only makes me want to vote for you more. As of right now the sith are the biggest mystery on the game. Killing the king (since he admits to being giovanni) will give us valuable information, even if he is telling the truth. If he is being truthful, then the death role reveal will potentially indicate that and we can focus more on finding the remaining imperial (s). And of course if he is lying then killing him is very worth it. So either way theking should needs to be lynched unless something extraordinary happens before the day ends.

im posting from work right now. Ill probably post more tonight
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