WEREWOLF XV: Pokemon Wars: GAME END: TOWN WINS!!!!! See Post 2547 for Final Update!

[Redados1]

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@waynegg- you are voting for me based on one persons word. What if it is Napoleons story that has a hole in ut? Its a he said she said thing. I dont think its enough to base a vote off of.
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[waynegg]

No. Based on you being inconsistent and an all around bad player. If you just gotta be TLDR, then I'll give you the one most damning piece of evidence against you...

The game mod said this (which we can all agree is completely accurate):

Originally Posted by Absoltrainer

It all started with a man meditating on his bed. Before meditating however he decided to use a Poke ball he had acquired the day before. In a burst of red light, an Altaria appeared. Realizing he had a great opportunity, he opted to send Altaria on a mission. However his orders were as far as he got. Within seconds, another burst of red light appeared and a Lucario came out of an unknown Pokeball. It rushed Altaria and hit it with Karate Chop. Not hurt too badly by the fighting move, Altaria retaliated with Hyper Beam. Lucario didn’t even try to dodge and simply took the attack full blast absorbing the damage and baffling the Altaria. Altaria had to land to recharge and thus made himself a target for fighting type moves. Lucario heavily damaged charged up an Aura Sphere attack that with the combined damage and added power of the Aura was twice as big is Lucario himself. He let it loose on the recharging and defenseless Altaria who took the blast so badly that he was instantly KO’d. The Poke ball that the meditating man had released Altaria in broke into several pieces.

This is a plausible post by Napoleon:

What does that do? Well, to sum it up without directly quoting:

-Single Target (including self) Protection
-It will prevent any direct action roles, most importantly kills, attacks and roleblocks.
-It does not, however, prevent any indirect roles such as rolecopping, priesting.
-It had a chance to roleblock anyone who attacked the person I selected to protect.
-It had a SEPARATE chance of beating up and bruising a person who tried to use a role on the protected person.

Yet you claim you didn't target Napoleon...

Now read. I'm not doing your work for you. Keep playing lazy and sloppy and you'll get what's coming.

 

[toxictaipan]

I targetted baby mario. Where is the inconsistency in my story??
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Dude, I just showed you.

Lucario protected Napoleon and Napoleon only -- not anyone else. According to the information Napoleon gave us, this is Lucario's only ability.


That means Lucario is only going to attack something/someone that targets Napoleon. If you did not target Napoleon, then Lucario should not have attack your Altaria. Period.

So, that leaves us with only a few possibilities, which I'll list below.

1. You targeted Napoleon, not baby mario.

2. Napoleon conveniently left out some information and Lucario does more than protect Napoleon.

3. This relies heavily on the theory that there is a reflection role in this game, but I suppose it's possible that your target was altered. I did suggest that, if such a role exists, it should be used on you in case the wolves decided to try to kill you. But a lot of good that did, seein' as you won't give us any information you gathered with your role!

Anyway, you claim that you targeted baby mario and you're sticking to it. I guess it's Napoleon's turn to weigh in on things.

But, in the mean time, I'm going to VOTE: Redados1 for obvious reasons.

 

[jpulice]

1001

What?!?! Are you kidding. You openly come out and supply information twice, once each day. Now for some reason you just don't want to finish off the info. There are two different meditators in the updates, it was you who claimed the barracks role and the use of the altaria. No one asked But you openly gave. So why won't you share now? What gives! Your acting very suspicious now.

 

[Redados1]

1. I targeted baby mario!
2. Ill get to this
3. It could have been reflected!

All I know is that Altaria's role failed! I have no idea whether it was reflected or not. I am telling the whole and complete truth. I have not lied AT ALL. I dont know any more than you do about Lucario, I just saw the update. I think that either Napoleon left simething out, or I was refected.
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[Absoltrainer]

Vote Count
Players Remaining: 35
Votes to Lynch: 18

Lil Magma: 2 ultimatedra, jpulice
Elite_4_Allen: 2 DarthPika, Jellyfisher
Redados1: 2 Waynegg, Toxictapian
Undecided: 3 Lil Magma, Akane, Benzo

 

[z-man]

Sigh. First of all, I'm not going to respond to Napoleon's comments. His post is full of fluff and he is twisting my words quite a bit. Napoleon, you just don't know when to back down, do you? I gave you what you wanted, and then you decided to attack a straw man. It looks like the majority of the town can see through your arguments, so I will not really bother addressing it. I am not anti-town... just pro-self. There is a difference. Why keep me? Same reason you keep a vanilla. I am able to vote. My self-serving-ness may be able to help the town eventually in some turnabout way... You failed to point out my major faulty logic (which makes sense). I got myself confused over my own post a little bit. I said that I would usually miss if I targeted a wolf therefore you must not be a wolf. When making the first statement, what I intended to mean was that if I targeted any random person who had not made a claim, that person was very likely to be a townie if I hit. Even so, that does not mean that if I make a hit (as I did with you in this case), the target is not a wolf. I would not have pointed this out if you had not kept "reminding us" that you are a townie. I looked back and I still don't see any definite evidence that you are just a townie. Good job not pointing out that logic flaw. You use my faulty conclusion to throw dirt at cardz... once again, you spent so much time slandering me that you missed a big logic flaw. Good job (tchtchtch).


Next we deal with Redados1. Sigh... Hic puer est stultissimus omnium! First off, your "no comment" nonsense only supports my original theory that you were lying. If you got role blocked, say it straight up. You were so open with your "role" earlier, but why not now? I see little proof that you even used Altaria in the first place. Now you want proof that Lucario protected Napoleon?

1. Napoleon knew that I targeted him and I'll confirm this
2. I got beat up after Lucario made a "deflection" in the update
3. It is clear in the update that Lucario had a targeted defender

In summary, because Napoleon knew that I targeted him, I got bruised, and Lucario clearly had one defender, it clearly defended Napoleon.

Now here you come along saying "hey... I used Altaria to attack this guy who isn't Napoleon, but Lucario defended it". That isn't as solid evidence in my opinion. First off, let me make a note of this. This is why I dislike role reveals in such ways. Even if some of this is true, Redados has backed himself into such a corner that he cannot get out of it. I would imagine that AAM is going to make a post defending Redados1 in some way... either that or he isn't going to post on the issue.

Arkanine/Arbok Master, I would like your thoughts on Redados1's actions.

Now then guys, Hold off on all voting for Redados1 until we stop seeing "Posted with Mobile style..." in his post. Redados1, I expect something very detailed showing why you are innocent by tomorrow -- September 8th 6PM PST. Does that sound fair to you? If we don't see anything that can help us understand what you are doing, you will be a very easy lynch target. I'd highly recommend you tell us everything you know about your role and this last night. You were so open with it and then you stopped talking... that isn't right. I also suggest you show us how it is possible that you had Altaria, targeted Baby Mario, and yet got reflected by Lucario. Hint hint, it may be helpful to refute my above logic train. That's all for me this Monday, September 7th.

 

[TheKing]

Redados1, not commenting on your role really makes you look bad. If you are a townie then you have nothing to lose, but if you're a wolf then you wouldn't be able to tell us anything. Also, do you know what Altaria was supposed to do? Or did you just have the option to use the pokeball.

 

[Napoleon]

1. I targeted baby mario!
2. Ill get to this
3. It could have been reflected!

All I know is that Altaria's role failed! I have no idea whether it was reflected or not. I am telling the whole and complete truth. I have not lied AT ALL. I dont know any more than you do about Lucario, I just saw the update. I think that either Napoleon left simething out, or I was refected.
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1008

Printed and reading to give ISOs sometime in the near future. However, I completely ante this post. You clearly targeted me as my Lucario took out your Altaria. That's how it works.

No, I didn't leave anything out. There is no reason for me to make omissions.

 

[PokeChampofPokeBeach]

Redados1, there is really no point in you saying "no comment". Right now you've amassed an amazing amount of suspicion in record time with your blundering play-style and if you don't give us information right now, it is highly likely we'll lynch you on the spot. An individual in your position doesn't have the right to say "no comment". As far as we know, if you're telling the truth about your role-reveal, you're going to die soon anyway. The Werewolves don't want anyone who can provide a list of names playing the game. I bought into your role-reveal before because so many people confirmed themselves, but if you don't provide us the information that we want, I will be forced to assume you are a Werewolf and come to the conclusion that that is why you haven't been killed yet.

Unless you can come up with a really good explanation for your suspicious actions, I don't see a reason why we need to you be hanging around any longer.

Vote: Redados1

 

[Redados1]

The man meditating would get an unexpected visitor during that night that would affect him to his core.

First of all. This *points up*

Second of all I USED ALTARIA ON BABY MARIO. Why would I lie about this? It's pointless. Altaria was killed by Napoleon's Lucario.

 

[Akane]

Redados, you're still avoiding the question of why you don't have/are not planning to post a list of who was in the Barracks last night.
I find the wolves not killing you last night coupled with your unwillingness to post a list of the names of who was in the Barracks last night (which would most likely include the full list of wolves) very suspicious, so for now...

Vote: Redados1

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[Redados1]

Redados, you're still avoiding the question of why you don't have/are not planning to post a list of who was in the Barracks last night.
I find the wolves not killing you last night coupled with your unwillingness to post a list of the names of who was in the Barracks last night (which would most likely include the full list of wolves) very suspicious, so for now...

Vote: Redados1

ahww rooohu'rcwo hucahwhrr aoacraao rqhuooaowo aooo scraorwo ra akooahwhao, rcwowarawaooc, ah oaooscakanwoaowoanro scahccwowa ahao.

I'm sorry, I was writing that post and I accidentally hit enter. I am sorry. Let me finish. First of all: READ THIS. PLEASE.

The man meditating would get an unexpected visitor during that night that would affect him to his core.

Please allow me to use this as an excuse for now. It may not be the best support I can give, but it's the best I have for now.

I know why the wolves did not kill me:

I don't know dude - wolves may leave him alone tonight thinking that we will kill him day 3 if they don't do it.

Here is what can happen:

• Town lynches, wolves kill redados because it is a "Safe" kill
• Town lynches, wolves kill someone else thinking that we will lynch redados, and we play into the wolves plan because redados could be a wolf
  [*]Town lynches, wolves kill someone else thinking that we will lynch redados, but we keep redados for his ability to give names...for whatever reason

Now. Hey look. It's Day 3. The wolves didn't kill me because they know you will lynch me. You are doing the work for the wolves.

About me being a bad player:
Day 1: I posted way too much, made thoughtless posts, but by the end of the day I was improving.
Day 2: I made an idiotic role reveal.
Night 2:

The man meditating would get an unexpected visitor during that night that would affect him to his core.

Day 3: I have made good posts. I described what happened during the night, and now I have what, 4 votes for me? These votes are being made hastily.

What happened: I picked up a PokeBall. It had Altaria. I targeted baby mario and it failed. (What would I have to gain from lying about this??) In the update, it said that Lucario killed Altaria. Is it possible that there are multiple Lucarios? Yes. Probable? No. MAYBE Lucario was activated because Altaria flew past Napoleon. MAYBE Napoleon is not telling the whole truth. And if I HAD targeted Napoleon,

-It does not, however, prevent any indirect roles such as rolecopping, priesting.

If I had targeted Napoleon, Lucario would not have killed Altaria. If you still don't believe my role reveal, the update says that the meditating man sent out Altaria and it got killed by Lucario. Meditation should not have direct action. Therefore Napoleon's description does not add up. I will post more later. And please don't vote until after 8, I agree with Z-man. Hopefully this was sufficient defense.

 

[DragonClyne725]

I don't know dude - wolves may leave him alone tonight thinking that we will kill him day 3 if they don't do it.

Here is what can happen:
Town lynches, wolves kill redados because it is a "Safe" kill
Town lynches, wolves kill someone else thinking that we will lynch redados, and we play into the wolves plan because redados could be a wolf
Town lynches, wolves kill someone else thinking that we will lynch redados, but we keep redados for his ability to give names...for whatever reason

@ Redados1 You quote this saying that we should keep you because you can give us names, but you refuse to give us the names. Why? "No comment" isn't a good answer.

And getting an unexpected visitor isn't an excuse as to why you won't give us the information.

As many have said before me, if you don't provide the names, or at least a good excuse as to why you can't, then you will most likely receive my vote.

 

[Redados1]

But you don't know the circumstances.

 

[toxictaipan]

Hold on.

I think Redados1 is trying to say that he is not allowed to talk about his role right now. It must have something to do with this unexpected visitor he had during the Night. Now, this still doesn't explain the Lucario vs. Altaria shenanigans, but it would explain why Redados1 is being so hard to work with in regards to his role.

Redados1, you have my unvote for now, because I'm fairly sure this is what you're getting at. However, you still need to clean up your act quite a bit. If this is what you were trying to say, if you had said this earlier instead of, "no comment," then maybe we could have avoided this whole mess.

UNVOTE: Redados1

 

[Benzo]

This is just a thought. Now, I do not know how much this can help, or the possability of what my thoughts are going to provide as far as insight goes. We know that there are players who have/had roles as being a Pokemon. With such a wide variaty of Pokemon too choose from, the abilities for the role are vary interesting in the effects/actions that those who have such a role can be of help or make it easier for someone to meet an early demise.

If there are "ghost" roles in this game, it could be a possability to think that a player might be silent until some action/death accures that activates that player to come into play. Now, either ghost Pokemon or a "ghost" role could possibly be in the works for this game. I might be over analyizing this, but, we have a lot to consider and to think about as to what Pokemon may/may not be able too do in this scenario.

The most "popular "ghost"" I know is to be Obi Won. So, it might be a role here in this game.

bleeeeeeeeeeeesht

Since we do not know for sure as too the timeline or if this expands past the "popular" charactures for this game, I have been doing some site/net searching while cross referencing tid bits of info to see if there might be links to the expanded universe of SW.

I did search a little on the term "blow torch" from the update. The info I found is interesting in that (in wookiepedia) Jedi can not block the weapon with a light sabor, thus- (and this is just a thought) that enemies of the Jedi will want to use this. Bounty hunters are also known to carry such a weapon in case they run into a light sabor wheel'n opponant. So, whom ever targeted Gallade to torch him could possably be a bounty hunter. (now I am aware that sites like wookiepedia and the likeness are not ALLWAYS 100% factual, so, just getting some other points of view is all)
The bounty hunters are selfish and will side with whom ever "can afford the price"- thus, I do not believe it is a good idea to keep a bounty hunter role around, that is if there is one in this game. Find the bounty hunter- find a wolf perhaps? Even if a bounty hunter is selfish, it does not mean that he is getting "paid" by the right side. Just a thought is all.

As for Napoleon, I am not defending him, just making an observational- and saying this: I get his stratagy with being aggresive. It is an element of the game. Nothing wrong in my opinion using tacticts to take advantage of getting information. I do not at this time have enough experiance in this game to judge players soly based on playstyle.

I do want to know a bit more on what the circle of people were doing while floating around.

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As far as rededos goes- I think he and A/AM are working togather and might be allowed to communicate alot. It seems that all of the sudden, rededos has a "gag" on him, and A/AM has not posted- but A/AM has requested that rededos give up info. I find it a bit conspicuios and I do not like the way things are looking between the two of them.

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Also at this time, I am still undecided on my vote, as I still want to see how things progress for a few more days.

 

[gallade]

Guys.
It's time for a reality check.

I'm really really dubious that redados is a wolf. He isn't wolfish, just a bad player. This whole altaria incident is weird, but let's focus on finding the wolves, not criticizing redados. Unless i missed something major I don't see any convincing evidence of redados being a wolf.
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[Benson]

Any one considered a thug style role? It's entirely possible the wolves or an indy (I can't see why anyone else would use it on Redados) has the ability to "threaten" a character into not revealing information for the next game day without some form of repercussion; a role delay if anything.

 

[ultimatedra]

Any one considered a thug style role? It's entirely possible the wolves or an indy (I can't see why anyone else would use it on Redados) has the ability to "threaten" a character into not revealing information for the next game day without some form of repercussion; a role delay if anything.

When i read this, i instantly thought "Scrafty".