WEREWOLF XV: Pokemon Wars: GAME END: TOWN WINS!!!!! See Post 2547 for Final Update!

[toxictaipan]

Guys, stop voting for kezzup. We have a WHOLE day to discuss things. Lets not get carried away by ending it too soon. Wolves want the day to end fast. Let's not help them please.

Yeah. What do you want to talk about specifically?

 

[DarthPika]

Not sure. Anything really. I just don't want the day to end so fast, with out us gaining any info from anything.

 

[jellyfisher]

We could talk about Dragonite15.

Diaz, I am a noob and I think I can contribute to the game, so I'm against this idea. Anyway I think that toxictaipan put up a good argument, so I think we should keep him around until we get more information. Now neither magneboar redados or napoleon have posted anything useful or really explained their votes, but napoleon didn't even defend himself when people started voting for him, thus I don't think he'll be much help

Vote: Napoleon

Napoleon put up a pretty good argument so until further notice:

Unvote: Napleon

Well, as long as we're supposed to bandwagon, porri sames doesn't seem to be doing anything helpful to the town and
e4a at least seems to be of no help either, but voting porri sounds like a better choice for the moment. Also, e4a has to put up a good argument or he has a very high probability of being lynched during the next game day.

vote: Porri Sames

Lil Magma really needs to start posting. I'll put some more pressure on him.

Vote: Lil Magma

Unvote: Lil Magma
Better explain yourself quick.

Well, I guess there's no explanation, and even if there was Lil Magma is too far gone.

Vote: Lil Magma

There's really not anything new for me to say, but inactivity and contradictions, and the fact that he wants to lynch someone who he said he doesn't think is a wolf. Well, that seems really wolfish and there's not much more to say than that.

Vote: Kezzup

Is anyone else noticing something here? Dragonite15 only has nine posts in this game. And seven of those posts are either voting or unvoting someone.

Yes, I'll admit I bandwagoned on day 2 and probably shouldn't have voted, but I don't belive I've bandwagoned aside from that, and always gave a reason to vote in my posts. Also, I voted for lil magma because i want him to start posting because if he doesn't post he's not worth keeping around. As soon as he makes a useful post, I'll unvote him.

In this post he says that he has given a reason for all of his votes. My only problem with this is all of his reasons had already been said by several people. If it had only happened one or two times then there wouldn't be a problem. But this has happened for every vote or unvote he has made.

I also want to point out these posts.

Unvote: Lil Magma
Better explain yourself quick.

Well, I guess there's no explanation, and even if there was Lil Magma is too far gone.

So at first, he was willing to unvote Lil Magma so he could explain himself. But then when he re-voted for him again, he said that it wouldn't have mattered if he had made an explanation anyway? If that was his opinion, then why unvote him in the first place?

I thoght I'd bring this up. gallade has been affected by a role both nights and some people thoght he was somewhat suspicious on day one, but after the events of night 1 he seems to have gotten off the hook without explaing himself.Also, elite 4 allen was a lynch candidate yesterday so he is also a potetial lynch.

This is the only post he has made that doesn't have something already said by multiple people. And still, its only bringing up lynch targets. So Dragonite15, why should we keep you around instead of Kezzup?

 

[dave628]

I say that we give Kezzup's one last chance to defend himself before we reach the threshold to lynch him.



In regards to the tattoo, I am not sure why the Imperial force, or Werewolves, feel the need to continue to frame me or make me look bad as I am pretty sure I am on "death row"; either I will be the target of town's wrath which I can understand as I have screwed up bad enough to deserve your wrath, werewolves, or my limitation which puts me in possible imminent danger each night.

 

[Dragonite15]

@jellyfisher: Don't you think we should hear out Kezzup's defense (if there is one) before we move on to me?
And even if I was bandwaggoning (which I don't think I am). How can bandwaggoning have any affect on the game at this point when there are a lot of logical veteran players still in the game and it takes 17 votes to lynch? Also what's wrong with bringing up potential lynch candidates? You just brought me up as one.

 

[Benzo]

@1164
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How quickly will you vote for Kezzup when the heat turn's on you for your mistakes to save your own skin? So you can toss one of us to the wolves? And you being framed? You framed yourself with your mistakes. Even if the tattoo's have relivance or not at this time. Saying that time is needed to allow a person who in his own hipocrisy should be able to better defend himself, at who's benefit? Yours?
If your in so much favor to allow a hipocrit to stick around to defend himself, maybe putting the heat on you to get more defence from you is a good idea and see what it is that you do- vote for Kezzup so you can stick around to help the wolves some more or vote for you to protect innocents.

What say you, Dave628? We keep you and vote off a hipocrit, or vote you out so no one can be fed to the wolves by you?

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Vote: Dave628

Unless something comes up or there is a better lead.........

 

[dave628]

Who says I am feeding innocent townspeople to the wolves? I barely join others in voting someone to be lynch. I may cast suspicion but I judiciously use my vote and cast my vote when there is sufficient evidence for a vote. Trust me when I say I have no dark force within me.

I am guessing CardzMaster was protected by a priest on night 2, and thus he was unaffected by any roles during night 2. Clearly the werewolves have someone with the ability to silence others or vote block and clearly they view him as a huge threat.


Yes, there is a goal to my madness or who I am targeting at night. I am targeting veterans so that I can use my power to indirectly reveal who the town and I can trust for the rest of the games. I want to see who among the vets may be lying and using their influence for malicious intent. I am just guessing there is one vets who is an indie or werewolves based on probability. Yes, there is also a chance that no indie or werewolves role were assigned to vets.

Every time I target someone at night nothing bad happens to them....Waynegg, CardzMaster, LucarioEX. I have no reason to lie especially in the face of an angry mob. I have come clean with my role to the point that I may have role reveal too much information for some people.

As for Redados1: it's an easy solution to his inability to say anything else....priest should use his or her role to protect Redados1 so that he is protected from every other roles. Now after he is protected during the night and he continues during the next day to say no comment or I can't comment then it means that he is lying and hiding something.
From night 1 update, it looks like we have at least 2 priest.

 

[jellyfisher]

@jellyfisher: Don't you think we should hear out Kezzup's defense (if there is one) before we move on to me?
And even if I was bandwaggoning (which I don't think I am). How can bandwaggoning have any affect on the game at this point when there are a lot of logical veteran players still in the game and it takes 17 votes to lynch?

It could take days before Kezzup defends himself. What would happen if he posted the last day and was able to explain himself? Assuming we didn't consider anyone else, we would be stuck with lynching someone who wouldn't get a chance to fully defend himself. So I see nothing wrong with considering other lynch candidates while we are waiting for Kezzup's response.

Also what's wrong with bringing up potential lynch candidates? You just brought me up as one.

There's nothing wrong with bringing up potential lynch targets, but that was the only post of yours I could find that had useful information in it. I'm just saying that it would be nice to see you make posts more helpful then that one.

And even if I was bandwaggoning (which I don't think I am). How can bandwaggoning have any affect on the game at this point when there are a lot of logical veteran players still in the game and it takes 17 votes to lynch?

Bandwaggoning actually has a huge affect on the game at this point. Its not so much of someone getting lynched early, but more of wolves being able to hide among the bandwaggoners. If there's a lot of bandwaggoning going on, then it makes it easy for any of the newer wolves to hide their identity.

I would also like to point out Benzo and dave628. It doesn't look like there waiting for Kezzup to respond.

 

[gallade]

Dragonite made a few missteps in his posts as jellyfisher pointed out. He has just bandwagoned, and not much else.

 

[Pikamaster]

Yeah, one thing I've noticed. People bandwaggoning. Why? We have all day to talk, and some of us need to wait until we have time to post. When the day ends early, we lose input.

So, to address the tattoos. Whatever the reason they've been put on us, it's not good. So I request that a priest randomly selects one of us to protect during the night. Being the mark of a Sith Lord, I doubt they're there for no reason at all...

 

[Benzo]

Famous last word:
To the Werewolves: There is a chance for you to kill 2 in one night with one target. (yes, I am appealing to your greed) So do you feel lucky or confident that I will make another mistake at night? I obviously have made a huge mistake during the day. I have clearly shown my inexperience playing this game.

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See why I think your suspiciouse and why I think that you might feed one of us to the wolves?

@1168- I am not giving time for Kezzup to defend himself? How is that so? There is plenty of time left for him to post again. Or does his schedual allow the time for that? I take my time (perhaps too long) to analyze everything to make a well purposeful vote or post. Between Dave628 and Kezzup- they have brought their own possible fates to the table with their mistakes. - blllllllllvvvvvvvvvvvffffffsht-Please tell me how it is that you conclude that I am not wanting Kezzep to post again with his defence- as Dave628 has already made effort thus far to make some sort of defence and is providing information. I will hear out Kezzup, if and when he post's again. If I did not want too hear what Kezzup has too say, I would have voted for him verses Dave628 whom I believe at this time is suspect and I have stated why I suspect him.

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[Kezzup]

Well, you see, the LAST thing I want to do is call out other people while under such scrutiny, so for now I'll take some time to argue my case over why I shouldn't be lynched, mainly focused on people's problems with my post.

First, the hardest one: I posted directly after I was called out by toxictaipan. Honestly, that was a complete coincidence. I got on after finishing my homework, and the most recent post happened to be his. You don't have to believe me on this, but that's my explanation.

One of the claims made against me was that my post was contradictory. I'll particularly be focusing on waynegg's post.

I mean, honestly, what was the point of it then? There was no way he couldn't have known that he couldn't say anything when he revealed, so it makes it even dumber that he did. He gave us no good information and put a huge target on his back. However, I DO NOT think he's a wolf. Call it a hunch, but his posts just don't really give off that sort of vibe. However, I'm still suspicious of him because he's really just diverting our attention and slowing our progress, so I think we maybe should go for him if we can't get any solid wolfish leads.

(Blue parts highlighted by waynegg)

Concerning the first two blue statements, yes, I admit those are a bit contradictory due to some ad wording on my part. The second one should be more along the lines of "I'd still keep an eye on him" or something like that. Concerning the third one, I think it's a bit misinterpreted. While I don't think Redados is a wolf, he is still a townie playing very poorly. What I'm saying is that if we have absolutely no leads at all on who the wolves are and are just going around in circle, Redados is our best bet, because in my opinion, townies playing badly are just below potential wolves in the pecking order of lynching.

Next, I'll focus on pokemonfreak's reasons for voting for me.

1) Eager to get a lynch and end the day, will pick on common and easy targets.

I never said I was eager to get a lynch. The only potential lynch I brought up was redados, and that was only as a last resort.

2) Remains indecisive so he an sway with the majority.

No, the reason I stayed indecisive was because there wasn't really anyone to vote for.

3) Distracts the town by drawing the conversation away from useful discussion.

People asked me to post and I did. How does that draw away conversation if they're the ones who called me out?

And finally, one more thing to point out:

Then, that post is hypocritical, contradictive, illogical and factually wrong - not the best of scenarios, hm?

How exactly is my post illogical? All I did was talk about Redados like everyone else, give a theory about the tattoos, and say that I won't clamp down on inactives. Maybe I'm just missing something, can someone explain it to me?

Oh, sorry, just one more thing: Benzo's speech impediment seems like robot type talk to me. However, as a non-Star Wars fan who only really know C3PO and R2-D2, I'm not really sure where this could lead.

 

[Absoltrainer]

Vote Count
Players Remaining: 32
Votes to Lynch: 17

Kezzup: 9 Waynegg, Toxictapian, Jellyfisher, theKing, pokemonfreak5, PokeChampofPokeBeach, Redados1, Akane, Dragonite15
Dave628: 1 Benzo

 

[Arcanine/Arbok Master]

We just keep getting in bigger and bigger trouble...

Sorry for inactivity guys. I'd give a good excuse, but really don't have one.

I see the case for voting for Kezzup, but am going to hold off until I've had time to fully catch up. I also want to analyze the night post a bit more before jumping in. Expect a big-ish summary of it and my take on the game day tomorrow.

AAM

 

[Napoleon]

Yeah, one thing I've noticed. People bandwaggoning. Why? We have all day to talk, and some of us need to wait until we have time to post. When the day ends early, we lose input.

So, to address the tattoos. Whatever the reason they've been put on us, it's not good. So I request that a priest randomly selects one of us to protect during the night. Being the mark of a Sith Lord, I doubt they're there for no reason at all...

...No. Priests go on confirmed innocents, not on people who get spotlighted by mod posts. Right now the closest thing we have to a confirmed innocent is Cardzmaster2004 since he's been silenced, which is generally a third party or wolf role. Thusly, priest should be on him.

 

[Benson]

...No. Priests go on confirmed innocents, not on people who get spotlighted by mod posts. Right now the closest thing we have to a confirmed innocent is Cardzmaster2004 since he's been silenced, which is generally a third party or wolf role. Thusly, priest should be on him.

I wouldn't necessarily say that, though it would be questionable, the priest may use his/her role as a Blocker of sorts, since it's common place for it fundamentally take the target out of ALL night events, which could be useful in siphoning out a particular role that occurs in Night updates often.

 

[Napoleon]

I wouldn't necessarily say that, though it would be questionable, the priest may use his/her role as a Blocker of sorts, since it's common place for it fundamentally take the target out of ALL night events, which could be useful in siphoning out a particular role that occurs in Night updates often.

o_0 The priest functions as a roleblocker? Wut? Mkay then.

 

[Pikamaster]

...No. Priests go on confirmed innocents, not on people who get spotlighted by mod posts. Right now the closest thing we have to a confirmed innocent is Cardzmaster2004 since he's been silenced, which is generally a third party or wolf role. Thusly, priest should be on him.

But there are two priests, if you read the updates closely. I'm asking one priest to choose one of the two of us at random, as, knowing AT, I feel I've been marked out to be killed. Besides that the wolves (or someone) keeps silencing Cardz. If they silence him, they won't kill him, and the priests should be on other people who might actually die.

Then again, being a possible target might be influencing my logic. After all, I waited a long time for this game, I don't want to die yet.

 

[pokemonfreak5]

Don't get me wrong. I don't think the town should ever "rush" a lynch. Day is our most popular tool against the wolves, we need to use it to its fullest capacity. I posted a vote as in my opinion it was called for. But I trust the town would be smart enough not end the day too hastily.

That being said, Kezzup's done nothing really to warrant me unvoting him. There's never any reason for indecision. There is always more info to look at and more questions to be asked. Even if no one is in the spotlight, you can be decisive on who you think is innocent or whatever.

So on the topic of decisiveness, i'll pose another question to you Kezzup.

Why are you chosing to try and pick apart peoples reasons for voting for you? Rather than say, trying to prove that your original actions that earnt these votes wasn't scummy.

 

[jellyfisher]

shwiiiiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzt@1168- I am not giving time for Kezzup to defend himself? How is that so? There is plenty of time left for him to post again. Or does his schedual allow the time for that? I take my time (perhaps too long) to analyze everything to make a well purposeful vote or post. Between Dave628 and Kezzup- they have brought their own possible fates to the table with their mistakes. - blllllllllvvvvvvvvvvvffffffsht-Please tell me how it is that you conclude that I am not wanting Kezzep to post again with his defence- as Dave628 has already made effort thus far to make some sort of defence and is providing information. I will hear out Kezzup, if and when he post's again. If I did not want too hear what Kezzup has too say, I would have voted for him verses Dave628 whom I believe at this time is suspect and I have stated why I suspect him.vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbssssssst-k

I was only using that as an example to Dragonite15 to show other people weren't waiting for Kezzup's response. If you read my post, you will see that I thought we shouldn't wait for Kezzup's defense to continue discussing possible lynch targets. I wasn't saying you weren't giving Kezzup enough time.