pokemonfreak5
New Member
Moved votes you mean?
In that case pika can we have a vote count?
In that case pika can we have a vote count?
Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!
- Thread starter Pikamaster
- Start date
YAHOO!! No more speech impediment! That was annoying... Anyways what a night... a no kill for the wolves, something tells me this could be some set up for an even bigger lynch...
Dp looks pretty scummy right now with the whole seered thing. but that is one sweet ability. I'm sorry but I don't have much else to say.
Dp looks pretty scummy right now with the whole seered thing. but that is one sweet ability. I'm sorry but I don't have much else to say.
DarthPika
New Member
I'm not sure exactly why this happened, but I feel it is important to share.
I received a suit of armor, and was informed that my win condition was changed back to town. I'm sure someone out there can confirm this.
Be careful of basing new information too heavily on previously seen roles. That has often ended in disaster. Remember when we were assuming all pokemon had the same "pokemon wins" win condition?
Also, I can not move votes from my self. I felt I should mention that, or else it would seem a bit too broken.
Furthermore, I don't see how a 100% chance of moving the lynch to a wolf and only 20% to anyone else could be anything but pro town.
In bold....
PF5, I was role blocked last night.
Pikamaster
Active Member
VOTE COUNT:
14 Remaining
7 to lynch
DarthPika- 5 (Vegitalian, Shinori, Kirbyking, Eclipse, Benson)
Azure Kite- 1 (DarthPika)
14 Remaining
7 to lynch
DarthPika- 5 (Vegitalian, Shinori, Kirbyking, Eclipse, Benson)
Azure Kite- 1 (DarthPika)
vegitalian
New Member
Only the one - I only get the ability of the killed player the following night (since I only learn if the role works or not at the end of the night that I choose the player).
Headache's back, so excuse the terseness of this reply.
I'm not happy with myself for using your claimed role as any sort of argument, but it's the most solid thing I've got. The previous arguments against you that stick out in my were more emotional than logical (jpulice) and wolf-driven (Prohawk). My temper's been quite short on SF, and after the events that happened here, I do NOT want to carry that over.
Pikajewel: Read Prohawk's role PM.
My vote stays, though, because I find this back-and-forth conversion hard to believe at face value. I'll sleep on it, and tomorrow should bring something more coherent (unless this headache doesn't go away).
I'm not happy with myself for using your claimed role as any sort of argument, but it's the most solid thing I've got. The previous arguments against you that stick out in my were more emotional than logical (jpulice) and wolf-driven (Prohawk). My temper's been quite short on SF, and after the events that happened here, I do NOT want to carry that over.
Pikajewel: Read Prohawk's role PM.
My vote stays, though, because I find this back-and-forth conversion hard to believe at face value. I'll sleep on it, and tomorrow should bring something more coherent (unless this headache doesn't go away).
pokemonplayer101
New Member
Shall I put DP at L-1? I'd really like to do that.
If so, thunderjolt, please post so I don't break my imped.
DP = wolf, kthanx guys
Posted with mobile style....
If so, thunderjolt, please post so I don't break my imped.
DP = wolf, kthanx guys
Posted with mobile style....
pokemonfreak5
New Member
No L-1. We don't need that yet.
My thoughts are gonna be a tad bit disjointed. Sorry.
The fact that I was hanging from the battlements next to Shinori should prove his role (reread Shinori's ISO to see why).
Reference. I appreciate the list, but when the mod says I can't talk, I'm not about to circumvent that for your convenience. I'm here NOW, so what did you want to talk about?
Ugh, reading jpulice is difficult. I'm having a hard time taking him seriously, as he posts stuff like this, which looks like a weak associative read based off of what he thinks should be a scum read. ProHawk had the better case (folding under pressure), but he flipped wolf. Someone noted that ProHawk has been known to bus his teammates for whatever reason, so I don't think ProHawk's dogging on DarthPika should auto-clear the latter. The claimed daytime conversion is still bugging me, as is the sheer power of that role. Which reminds me. . .
Reference
There's a difference between early alignment speculation and late-game role musings. The latter has a lot more role PMs to draw from. So far, the more powerful ones (jpulice, Benzo, waynegg) have had some sort of conditional tied to it. What you're claiming has a lot of power for very little drawback. It's completely out of line with everything I've seen so far, which is why I'm suspicious of it. My unease WRT your role hasn't been dispelled; thus, my vote stays.
Shinori, if you have time to make silly posts on SF, you can make yourself memorable in here.
I have been informed that DST has kicked in. I am in a place that does not observe DST, so it will take a bit for me to readjust. My apologies.
The fact that I was hanging from the battlements next to Shinori should prove his role (reread Shinori's ISO to see why).
Reference. I appreciate the list, but when the mod says I can't talk, I'm not about to circumvent that for your convenience. I'm here NOW, so what did you want to talk about?
Ugh, reading jpulice is difficult. I'm having a hard time taking him seriously, as he posts stuff like this, which looks like a weak associative read based off of what he thinks should be a scum read. ProHawk had the better case (folding under pressure), but he flipped wolf. Someone noted that ProHawk has been known to bus his teammates for whatever reason, so I don't think ProHawk's dogging on DarthPika should auto-clear the latter. The claimed daytime conversion is still bugging me, as is the sheer power of that role. Which reminds me. . .
Reference
There's a difference between early alignment speculation and late-game role musings. The latter has a lot more role PMs to draw from. So far, the more powerful ones (jpulice, Benzo, waynegg) have had some sort of conditional tied to it. What you're claiming has a lot of power for very little drawback. It's completely out of line with everything I've seen so far, which is why I'm suspicious of it. My unease WRT your role hasn't been dispelled; thus, my vote stays.
Shinori, if you have time to make silly posts on SF, you can make yourself memorable in here.
I have been informed that DST has kicked in. I am in a place that does not observe DST, so it will take a bit for me to readjust. My apologies.
xxumbreonxx
New Member
So, I'm not going to vote quite yet, but I do have one question:
DarthPika: So are you admitting you were a town, turned into a wolf, and now turned back into a townie? Please explain what nights these happened, and if you were able to talk to the wolfs during that time period when you get back on.
DarthPika: So are you admitting you were a town, turned into a wolf, and now turned back into a townie? Please explain what nights these happened, and if you were able to talk to the wolfs during that time period when you get back on.
DetailsI don't know quite what to think with what just happened with DP, suit of armor? What does the armor do?
DarthPika
New Member
Eclipse,
My role is not that powerful. I have to guess who will be receiving votes for the day. I also have to try and direct the votes to someone who is deserving of a lynch. This is not exactly easy to do, and has yet to actually work. It's a very luck based move (as it is in the actual game), and is less powerful than you seem to realize.
As for my second ability, it is nothing overly special, or that unusual for a townie. I have a chance to kill a wolf if I guess right. If not, there's a VERY good chance I'll die, to preserve the life of a townie/random other faction.
So, if I get a wolf it will work 100% of the time, and we get a wolf kill.
If I hit a townie/non wolf, it works 20% of the time.
What are the draw backs to this? Well, first of all it requires me actually getting enough votes to be "lynched". I have to guess who's a wolf. If I guess wrong, I likely die.
The last thing I would like to ask. Why would an anti town faction have use of a power that kills wolves, and preserves townies? You could argue that it also protects other factions, but I think we can agree that a 100% kill on wolves AND other non town factions would be a bit broken.
I am not a wolf, I am not "pokemon wins", I am town.
I was informed that I was turned into a wolf at the start of this game day, and the change had occurred during the game night. It was the same as JQ, and I was not informed of any other wolves, and only that my win condition was "wolves win".
Today, when pikamaster posted "something happened!" I received a PM that I had found a suit of armor, which had broken the curse which I had been under and my win condition had reverted to town wins.
PJ:
The suit of armor protects me from a night kill. As far as if it's an in game mechanic, or someones role, I do not know. All I know is he made that post, and I found it. I'm quite certain that everyone can verify that no one else received any such PM.
My role is not that powerful. I have to guess who will be receiving votes for the day. I also have to try and direct the votes to someone who is deserving of a lynch. This is not exactly easy to do, and has yet to actually work. It's a very luck based move (as it is in the actual game), and is less powerful than you seem to realize.
As for my second ability, it is nothing overly special, or that unusual for a townie. I have a chance to kill a wolf if I guess right. If not, there's a VERY good chance I'll die, to preserve the life of a townie/random other faction.
So, if I get a wolf it will work 100% of the time, and we get a wolf kill.
If I hit a townie/non wolf, it works 20% of the time.
What are the draw backs to this? Well, first of all it requires me actually getting enough votes to be "lynched". I have to guess who's a wolf. If I guess wrong, I likely die.
The last thing I would like to ask. Why would an anti town faction have use of a power that kills wolves, and preserves townies? You could argue that it also protects other factions, but I think we can agree that a 100% kill on wolves AND other non town factions would be a bit broken.
I am not a wolf, I am not "pokemon wins", I am town.
I was informed that I was turned into a wolf at the start of this game day, and the change had occurred during the game night. It was the same as JQ, and I was not informed of any other wolves, and only that my win condition was "wolves win".
Today, when pikamaster posted "something happened!" I received a PM that I had found a suit of armor, which had broken the curse which I had been under and my win condition had reverted to town wins.
PJ:
The suit of armor protects me from a night kill. As far as if it's an in game mechanic, or someones role, I do not know. All I know is he made that post, and I found it. I'm quite certain that everyone can verify that no one else received any such PM.
pokemonfreak5
New Member
I see no reason to disbelieve DP's claims. They same valid. Something about the whole Glaceon seer/JQ Conversion is still confusing, but as DP has been relatively transparent, I think he's telling the truth.
Is it worth the person with the armor to come forward, maybe they can shed some light on things. In my opinion now is probably the time to develop our understanding of these mechanics wherever possible.
Is it worth the person with the armor to come forward, maybe they can shed some light on things. In my opinion now is probably the time to develop our understanding of these mechanics wherever possible.
thunderjolt
New Member
really, "I got a suit of armor and now I'm town again!" That just doesn't even make you want to at least review over it? I, for one, am not taking this 99.99% chance of a phony story.
pokemonfreak5
New Member
I never said I didn't want to review. Not did I say he should be cleared. I just stated that the story adds up. It seems likely that if there is a wolf converter then there's an anti wolf converter. Combined it with the fact that DP publicly announced he had been converted, then "something happened" and I'd say the claim is plausible.
You must hve missed that I then asked if anyone had any comments to make about the armour. I think that's the best bet for working this all out.
You must hve missed that I then asked if anyone had any comments to make about the armour. I think that's the best bet for working this all out.
DarthPika
New Member
Simply not considering the evidence to support it is anti town. Did you even read over what I said happened? I think there's a decent amount of evidence to support that I am being truthful.
Can't you see this is almost the same setup as what happened to JQ, only this time I was attacked by the wolf the day before they converted me to draw attention to me? Obviously the turn townies to wolves power is being used to get townies lynched, not add to wolf numbers.
I'll make a larger post later today, which will show that I am town (to the best of my abilities). As I have said previously, I do not expect anyone to take anyones word that they are town. However, if there is enough supporting evidence, than the conclusion can be reached with reasonable certainty that they are town. I am confident that I can present that supporting evidence. The wolves made a mistake this time, as I am far from incapable of proving my self to be town.