Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!

I've been holding back. Sorry, SS7 and others, I can't remain silent any longer.


DarthPika, you just broke the very same rule. Are you content with a modkill as well? Anything less would not be befitting after you call for such harsh penalties.

Quite frankly, I find JP's allegations to be quite worrying, especially since this is not the kind of thing one merely makes up for fun or spite.

Your anger stems from your worries of being assumed guilty, DP. I know not if the bias was intentional or merely something that your brother naturally did, but the bias is there. Azure Kite was RESERVED to replace Strong Rhino. There was another replacement already ready, but that replacement was held off until HOM also needed a replacement. Therefore, regardless of ALL other factors, there was bias in letting you seek out a replacement ahead of the one you would have received.

Even without your family connection to Pikamaster, there's bias, but the family ties make it even stronger. And don't play innocent here either. You have the gall to post insults about him where you think others won't see it, and your posts offsite have clearly shown for sure that you and Pikamaster directly discussed the replacement issue.

I have no doubt that after posting this, both of you will be calling for my head even more so than before, and so be it if that is the result. I cannot stand idly by and watch this farce of a game continue as it is.

The only thing that would be fair to the remaining players at this point is the removal of all three parties in question. JP, DP, and Pikamaster should step down/remove themselves from the game. All three of you are at fault at least in a partial manner, and leaving any of you leaves an inherit bias in the game. Anything less than that, and the game should cease, as it would be unfair to at least one party remaining.

This is getting blown up way out of proportion, and I worry it will usher in a total loss of faith in the game and in the community.

Judge me if you will, but this needed to be said.

~Cabd
 
Perhaps someone who has already cheated and has a ban from future games should not question the ethics of others and spread lies?

Could we please get a forum mod in here to stop this before the game becomes ruined?

STOP TRYING TO RUIN GAME STATE. IF ANYONE HAS AN OPINION ON THE GAME, CONTACT THE MOD. DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD.
 
OK
Every one please chill. What has been done has been done. It wll sort out, regardless.
No more postings please! Period! This game is meant to be fun, not frustrating. Let's set aside matters and let the game Mods handle this. I do not want "drama" per say, I do not want to see this game resort to that, as it does put a damper onto this site.
Thanks!
 
cabd said:
I've been holding back. Sorry, SS7 and others, I can't remain silent any longer.


DarthPika, you just broke the very same rule. Are you content with a modkill as well? Anything less would not be befitting after you call for such harsh penalties.

Quite frankly, I find JP's allegations to be quite worrying, especially since this is not the kind of thing one merely makes up for fun or spite.

Your anger stems from your worries of being assumed guilty, DP. I know not if the bias was intentional or merely something that your brother naturally did, but the bias is there. Azure Kite was RESERVED to replace Strong Rhino. There was another replacement already ready, but that replacement was held off until HOM also needed a replacement. Therefore, regardless of ALL other factors, there was bias in letting you seek out a replacement ahead of the one you would have received.

Even without your family connection to Pikamaster, there's bias, but the family ties make it even stronger. And don't play innocent here either. You have the gall to post insults about him where you think others won't see it, and your posts offsite have clearly shown for sure that you and Pikamaster directly discussed the replacement issue.

I have no doubt that after posting this, both of you will be calling for my head even more so than before, and so be it if that is the result. I cannot stand idly by and watch this farce of a game continue as it is.

The only thing that would be fair to the remaining players at this point is the removal of all three parties in question. JP, DP, and Pikamaster should step down/remove themselves from the game. All three of you are at fault at least in a partial manner, and leaving any of you leaves an inherit bias in the game. Anything less than that, and the game should cease, as it would be unfair to at least one party remaining.

This is getting blown up way out of proportion, and I worry it will usher in a total loss of faith in the game and in the community.

Judge me if you will, but this needed to be said.

~Cabd
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First off, how dare you post saying how people need to remove themselves from the game. You broke the rules and ruined the game for another player by doing so on Day 1. You are DEAD. You do not know all the details of this situation, and they are not simply as Jpulice stated. Quite frankly, I don't know why Jpulice feels that there's any bias.

Secondly, there was no "reserved" spot for anyone. Here is the order of things.

1. A replacement for HOM is found. Said replacement hasn't created a gym account, so I hold off on posting.
2. AK is asked to play the game. AK steps in, replaces SR and confirms that he's ready to play the game. I post that he has replaced SR because he confirmed.
3. Schizo creates a gym account and confirms.

As you can see, I went in order of those who needed replacement. Not one, then the other. Not holding a spot open for anyone. Not avoiding modkilling someone. Unbiased.

Did we discuss the replacement "issue"? Yes. Here's exactly what we "discussed". "Hey, have you asked AK if he'd play?" "No" "He said he'd play if you needed him" "Thanks"

Paraphrasing, yes, but that's essentially everything that was "discussed". AK was not asked until AFTER I found a replacement in Schizo.

I'll post more after school, I'm going to be late as it is. But suffice it to say, when I get home, NOBODY should have posted in this thread.
 
Cabd, if you have respect for anyone other than yourself, do not post in this thread again until postgame. If you feel the urge
To share your opinion, wait like everyone else, or take it to PM. This applies to everyone.

As for this entire "biased mod" item. I have done nothing biased in any way. I put replacements in as they are found. If for any reason, a player is motivated to find a replacement at a specific time, that's them, not me. I publicly requested that players ask friends to join, so DP did nothing wrong, he is not the first person in this game to ask someone to play. I cannot put replacements in before they sign up, I am simply putting them in as soon as possible. IF this prevents a mod kill for a member of a specific group, that is not any fault of mine or LEX's, whether it's town, wolf or otherwise.

If you have anything to say or share, wait until postgame, or send it via pm. Do not bring a "player vs
mod" mindset into this as I am trying to keep everything fun and fair to the best of my ability.

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As an added note. Unless you are a mod, like Benzo, and have duties to perform, do NOT post in the thread during the night. Vablakes, DarthPika, this means you. Please do not post your opinions on what should happen to any person who breaks the rules, Lucario EX and I will decide this.

If you are dead, do not post for any reason while this game is still running. Attempts to damage the gamestate will most likely result in a ban, enforced by other game mods, as it is against the spirit of the game just as much as my alleged actions are.
 
1.) Pikamaster is under no obligation to explain himself to players unless it affects the game state. He is the mod, his game, his rules, his choice. If you have a beef, you sure as heck DO NOT post it publically. You keep it private, and wait until post game.
2.) Jpulice bad sportsmanship is bad, BIG TIME
3.) Cabd bad sportsmandship is bad, BIG TIME
2/3a.) Both of you need to act like adults, I know you are both old enough to know better
4.) DarthPika you are NOT the mod of this game, you are NOT exempt from the rules, stop pseudo-modding. You are breaking the rules too.
4a.) You do not get to decide who gets banned from next games and you sure as heck have no right making such requests in public in the middle of a game
4b. Act like an adult, I know you are old enough to know better
5.) You know who decides who's banned in the next game and who's not? The host. Know who that is? Me. I decide, with the advice of other previous mods, which does not include you DP, and it is CERTAINLY not going to be decided MID-GAME. So it's no use posting here because I will decide it on an Excel Spreadsheet on MY computer

All three of you have disappointed me. Is this what veterans of the game act like. disgusting. Set an example....as veterans of the game and as adults in the Pokémon Community

1.) Stop....ALL OF YOU
2.) Act your age, ALL OF YOU
3.) Thanks for making my job planning the next game this much more fun....


You have any problems with this post you PM me. Private. Message.

If anyone posts a response to this post publically in this thread, consider yourself auto-banned from my next game.

If anyone continues the above argument at all in this thread publically, consider yourself auto-banned from my next game.

If anyone says ANYTHIGN about banning ANYONE at any point forward in this thread publically, consider yourself auto-banned from my next game. This includes post-game

If anyone cannot speak maturely to me or any other mod on this manner, consider your-self auto-banned from my next game.

If you choose to act like a child, I will treat you like a child. If you act like an adult I will treat you like an adult.

The issue is DONE publically. The only posts on this thread by anyone except the mod should be game related only.


Also be aware:
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Pokegym Staff will up hold site rules, might edit/delete posts if needed.
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Absoltrainer said:
1.) Pikamaster is under no obligation to explain himself to players unless it affects the game state. He is the mod, his game, his rules, his choice. If you have a beef, you sure as heck DO NOT post it publically. You keep it private, and wait until post game.
2.) Jpulice bad sportsmanship is bad, BIG TIME
3.) Cabd bad sportsmandship is bad, BIG TIME
2/3a.) Both of you need to act like adults, I know you are both old enough to know better
4.) DarthPika you are NOT the mod of this game, you are NOT exempt from the rules, stop pseudo-modding. You are breaking the rules too.
4a.) You do not get to decide who gets banned from next games and you sure as heck have no right making such requests in public in the middle of a game
4b. Act like an adult, I know you are old enough to know better
5.) You know who decides who's banned in the next game and who's not? The host. Know who that is? Me. I decide, with the advice of other previous mods, which does not include you DP, and it is CERTAINLY not going to be decided MID-GAME. So it's no use posting here because I will decide it on an Excel Spreadsheet on MY computer

All three of you have disappointed me. Is this what veterans of the game act like. disgusting. Set an example....as veterans of the game and as adults in the Pokémon Community

1.) Stop....ALL OF YOU
2.) Act your age, ALL OF YOU
3.) Thanks for making my job planning the next game this much more fun....


You have any problems with this post you PM me. Private. Message.

If anyone posts a response to this post publically in this thread, consider yourself auto-banned from my next game.

If anyone continues the above argument at all in this thread publically, consider yourself auto-banned from my next game.

If anyone says ANYTHIGN about banning ANYONE at any point forward in this thread publically, consider yourself auto-banned from my next game. This includes post-game

If anyone cannot speak maturely to me or any other mod on this manner, consider your-self auto-banned from my next game.

If you choose to act like a child, I will treat you like a child. If you act like an adult I will treat you like an adult.

The issue is DONE publically. The only posts on this thread by anyone except the mod should be game related only.


Also be aware:
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Lol at the hypocrisy and power tripping going on here. You aren't the mod AT, and the mod just finished saying this:

As an added note. Unless you are a mod, like Benzo, and have duties to perform, do NOT post in the thread during the night. Vablakes, DarthPika, this means you. Please do not post your opinions on what should happen to any person who breaks the rules, Lucario EX and I will decide this.
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You shouldn't be above the law.

I made my concerns about modding clear at the beginning of this game. I hope there's a major overhaul when it comes to modding these games. It should start with reforming AT's power tripping. This is a topic for post-game, and if I post any more on this issue, it will be there.
 
Jpulice has been modkilled! He was:
You are Link, the mute Fairy boy from deep in the forest. You fight for justice, no matter if it's your fight or not. But this one seems to be your fight. Midna was happily riding on your back, much to your constant irritation, when you were snatched out from under her in a flash of white light. You immediate chuckled at the thought, then realized you could chuckle, which meant you were human again. You have your sword and shield with you, although you refuse to attack those who might be innocent. Your Triforce blazing under your gauntlet, you stepped into the main room of the giant castle you found yourself in, ready to fight against evil.

Secret Keeper (Active): Once during the night, you may choose one player who has either role claimed or name claimed. That player will be role blocked for that night and the next night, and post blocked for the next two days (i.e, if used on N4, role blocked N4 and N5, post blocked D5 and D6). After the first day has passed, you will learn if the claim was completely true, completely false, or if there were elements of both.

Win Condition: Town Wins
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A thunderous sound awakens you, and you dash out from your hiding place moments before the wall crumbles down behind you. Trembling, you back away from any large structures, staying wary of whatever caused the blast. After who-knows-how-long, you gather your courage and approach the wreckage. Your observation reveals that multiple walls of the castle have collapsed, obstructing your way to the location of some of the others. The doors leading outdoors have also been blocked by rubble. You spend a short time trying to find a way around the debris, to no avail, when you hear someone shouting. You can't quite make out what they're saying, though.

"Hello over there, do you have any idea what happened?" you call back, feeling relatively safe with a towering pile of stone between you and them.

"Not a clue! It's nearly midday, though. Get as close to the center of the castle as you can, we're trying to assemble everyone where we can at least communicate."

You plod back there, telling someone you spot along the way, and by the time you arrive, a small crowd is gathered. Someone from each side of the destroyed wall takes a head count, and when you add in the bodies that have been pulled from the wreckage, everyone appears to be accounted for.

The dead were:

Benzo:
You are Suicune, the third in the reborn trio. As Raikou is different to Entei, you are different to both of them. You prefer a peaceful way to settle conflict, and even help humans WITHOUT killing them. That being said, you also love to frustrate Entei by arguing everything he says, even going as far as to hold your type advantage over him until Raikou tells you to knock it off. But all in all, the three of you are comrades to the end, and the end might be near. While responding to Entei's call about some plan of his to become Legendary Vigilantes, the three of you were forcibly summoned to a forest in a new world. Many good creatures are gathered in the area, but many evil ones are, too. So while you do hate to just start killing, it looks like you have to go along with Entei's plan in order to survive. Who knows, maybe you will learn something. Like how to smack Entei upside the head without any hands.

Triforce (Active/Passive/Passive): 1. Once during the night, you, Entei and Raikou may collectively choose one player. That player will be killed. For every member of your group who dies, the chance of success is reduced by 1/3. 2. Once you make a post, you must wait for Entei, and then Raikou to make a post. The order of posts must be Entei, Raikou, and then Suicune. You may not make a post until Entei, and then Raikou post. Bump posts do not count as making a post. 3. If Entei or Raikou dies during the day, you may not use your role the following night.

Win Condition: Town Wins
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Dave628:
You are Brother Methuselah, the oldest mouse in Redwall Abby and the beloved recordkeeper. You caught the fox, Chickenhound, trying to escape from the Abbey with a sack of stolen goods, and you bravely confronted him. However, he rose the bag up and prepared to strike you down. With a flash and the sound of rushing wind, you were snatched from where you stood and from certain death, and you found yourself in a chamber of some castle. You're not quite sure what's going on, but you know there's a lot of information to be recorded. After all, that's what you're good at. Maybe you can make some use of that while you try to figure out what the heck is going on around you?

Record Keeping (Active): Once during the night, you may choose one player. You will learn the name of that player's character.

Win Condition: Town Wins
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Glaceon:
You are Polleekin, the old Mole maid. Blessed with the gift of seeing, you can peer into the destinies of other creatures. However, while resting in your hole one summer's afternoon, drinking tea and enjoying the warmth, you were brought to a strange world, full of unusual creatures. You can sense great evil in the land, but also much goodness. You have decided that, rather than hiding your powers from others, you will do your best to find the darkness that plagues the good so it can be destroyed. Then maybe you'll get back to your cup of tea?

Fortune Telling (Active): Once during the night, you may choose one player. You will be informed of that player's win condition.

Win Condition: Town Wins
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Prohawk:
(Electrode:) Boom.

Explosion (Active): Once during the night, you may choose to kill yourself and five players. During that night and the next two nights, the wolves cannot make a kill.

Win Condition: Wolves Win
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Scorri:
(Luna Tic:)You see a little shadow man, in the corner by the bed. But when you blink he disappears! You know he's in your head.

Positive Symptoms (Active/Passive): 1. Once during the night, you may choose either Red, Amber, Green, Scarlett [LEX: sic], Pink, White, Ivory, Aqua, Beige, or Brown. You will be informed of what effect that color brings. You may only choose each color once. You may choose to not use an effect after you learn what it does, but you may not choose that effect again. 2. Every time you post, you must A.) Refer to yourself in third person by name at least once per post. You may only refer to yourself by name. B.) You may only refer to other people in third person.

Win Condition: Survive
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Vablakes:
You are Latias, one of the guardians of Altomare ever since your father died protecting the city. Unlike your brother Latios, you are lively and idealistic, and care deeply for the people of Altomare. The two of you definitely work better together, though. You were playing with Latios in your garden, when a strange power transported you to someplace you had never seen before. The scenery is beautiful and picturesque, but there are terrible people and creatures around, and you wish Latios was here with you.

[del]Levitate (Passive): During even numbered nights (N2, N4, etc.) you will be immune to all night kills[/del]

Mourning (Passive): You may not post more than 10 times per game day.

Win Condition: Town Wins
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Waynegg:
You are Lancelot, the noble and skilled Knight of the Round Table. Unfortunately, you gained a bit of a bad reputation after becoming romantically involved with the queen and then going mad temporarily. Not long after you were cured by seeing the Holy Grail and returned to Camelot, a strange wind apparently knocked you far away from home. Quite possibly back to fairy lands, since there are so many odd beasts roaming around. At least you still have your sword and lance, you'll be able to strike down anyone out to cause mischief.

Sniper (Active): On odd numbered nights (1, 3, 5, etc.) you may choose one player to kill. If you kill three townspeople, you will die. If you kill a non-town aligned player, this counter will be reset. On even numbered nights (2, 4, 6, etc.) you may choose one player to hide behind. Any roles that target you during that night will fail (including killing roles). If you choose to hide behing a wolf or the player you are hiding behind is killed during the night, you will die.

Win Condition: Town Wins
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Eclipse and Shinori are still tied up and cannot post.

Players on the NORTH side of the castle:
Thunderjolt
StrongRhino
Pokemonrocks777
Eclipse
DarthPika
Vegitalian
Homeofmew

Players on the SOUTH side of the castle:
xxumbreonxx
PikaJewel
Pokemonplayer101
Shinori
Kirbyking
Pokemonfreak5
Benson

During the night, players may only target other players on the same side. The lynch will not be affected.

Begin Day 7. Day 7 ends at 11:59 PM EST on 2/28.

Also, on behalf of myself, Pika, and some number of players who felt it wise to contact the hosts instead of posting at night, dead players should stay quiet, people should stay quiet at night unless they're announcing that they won't be able to play for IRL reasons, and whining about things in this way is pointless. Contact myself and/or Pika if you want to rant, complain, ask questions, make a case about something, whatever.
 
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What an odd night - mods: are you able to say which of those players were modkilled and which weren't?

DarthPika, what was done during the night was unfair, and should not be taken into consideration; however, what we have is a role that can tell when a player's lying. He was determined you were a wolf, and while I haven't noticed any overly scummy plays, I think it's only right to target you based on his role card flip.

Vote: DarthPika

I don't want an early lynch, nor do I want a no-lynch. I should get a chance to go over these more thoroughly and update my reads.
 
I'm on the other side of the track, I don't think ProHawk would have tried any bussing tactics with DP, so I'd be inclined to say not so.

The key point being that JP really wanted DP to flip so he could find out the role for real.

I'd also like to apologise for my disappear in the last part of the previous day, I personally wasn't convinced on the JP lynch but the major reason I didn't vote was the last 48 hours saw me away from my computer and unable to post. I intended to be home with 15 minutes to post but my bus ended up running late and then got caught up in road works, so my 15 minutes early turned into 15 minutes late.
 
vegitalian said:
DarthPika, what was done during the night was unfair, and should not be taken into consideration; however, what we have is a role that can tell when a player's lying. He was determined you were a wolf, and while I haven't noticed any overly scummy plays, I think it's only right to target you based on his role card flip.

Vote: DarthPika

I don't want an early lynch, nor do I want a no-lynch. I should get a chance to go over these more thoroughly and update my reads.
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He never determined that I was a wolf with his power. I would have been hanging from the battlements with everyone else if he had used his role on me. JP was going off a hunch, and nothing more. It's obvious prohawk saw his chance to assist JP, and took it.

Secret Keeper (Active): Once during the night, you may choose one player who has either role claimed or name claimed. That player will be role blocked for that night and the next night, and post blocked for the next two days (i.e, if used on N4, role blocked N4 and N5, post blocked D5 and D6). After the first day has passed, you will learn if the claim was completely true, completely false, or if there were elements of both.
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Alright so from what I have gathered from last game day is that the main focus was around Jpulice, Dathpika, and Prohawk.

Prohawk: Wolf - He was buddying JP hard last game day and if he hadn't used his role last night he would have been my #1 target this game day.

Jpulice: Town - Went after DP hard yesterday with little logic to it at all. I thought he might have used his role or something, but like DP said, he probably didn't.

DarthPika: Unknown - He was attacked by JPulice yesterday and attacked back. DarthPika used better logic than JP, but JP flipped town. I am still pretty iffy about DarthPika, but for now I think he is null and will leave him without my vote.

Right now I'd like to here from SR's replacement.

VOTE: StrongRhino/Azure Kite
 
DarthPika said:
He never determined that I was a wolf with his power. I would have been hanging from the battlements with everyone else if he had used his role on me. JP was going off a hunch, and nothing more. It's obvious prohawk saw his chance to assist JP, and took it.
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Sorry, I need to read more thoroughly...

Unvote: DarthPika
 
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