Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!

Currently have time to just skim over the thread (first week of the semester has been a bit hectic), but I've been keeping up with the past events. I just might not comment too much until I get on top of my work load.


What the heck is going on with Pmysterious?

This is one of the strangest things I've ever seen in a WW game:

Hey! You're dead, so you can't talk. Also, all I want to do this game is improve. That's all I want to do. I said I was not the best, yet, but I will be if you give me a chance.

You will be the best? We've ALL given you a chance, yet you seem to be far out of your league. Why should we continually excuse your terrible play? You have had not only all of this game, but THREE other games to improve, but I think your play is only getting worse. I'm thinking that you're non town, since vanilla townie is easy to play by even the most inexperienced player. Anti town roles tend to be harder to play with. I'm thinking your bad play is because you do NOT have a normal "town wins" win condition, and are trying too hard to "force" things to happen to achieve your win condition. If you really are a towni, you certainly aren't acting like one in any way or form. You can not blame us for wanting to lynch you, so please knock off the bad attitude.

I would like to highlight a part of this post which was in response to SMP88....

Hey! You're dead, so you can't talk.

SMP88 was never listed as dead, or, have anything else happen to him for that matter.

Am I dead? I'd like to continue posting if I'm not.

Here we get a question presented to the game mod asking if he is for some reason, actually dead.

SMP88, there are no pending actions taken towards you at this time.

And the mod, as expected, says he is not.

PMysterious. Why are you now lying about who is dead and who is alive? Is your play really so sloppy that you can not even bother checking on the front page to see if a player is alive or dead before accusing them of breaking the rules? Or, is this just a weak attempt to make SMP88 look bad?

The play (especially recent play) of Pmysterious has been down right miserable. This is about the single worst instance of play I've seen here in a ww game, and it's being HIGHLY detrimental for the town. Wolves love players like this, who cause unnecessary confusion, lie randomly, try to make other players look scummy for stupid reasons, and cause other distractions which make it harder to do any real scum hunting. If a player is being detrimental to the town (especially if that player seems to be easy for the wolves to manipulate for their own uses as is the case here) that player MUST be lynched.

I've had enough of this nonsense. We will NEVER find wolves with this kind of stupidity going on. The wolves are going to win, hands down, if we can not organize our selves.

Let's start organizing our selves, and return to reason:

Vote: Pmysterious
 
Thanks for the bump....

Noticed I made a mistake when posting my last post, and wanted to correct it before any misunderstandings occurred, or I accidentally gave someone the wrong impression about something that happened.

I accidentally missed page 49 when reading over the thread, and jumped to page 50. Therefore, some of the stuff relating to Pmysterious and killing SMP88 makes a lot more sense now, and I realize why he thought he was dead. I apologize for my error.

However, after actually reading over the page that I had previous missed, Pmysterious seems even more scummy than ever, trying to manipulate emotions to avoid a lynch. We have no need for this. Townies have no reason to try and manipulate others. My vote stands as it is.
 
@PMysterious: You need to stop posting until you are able to calm down. Your emotional outbursts are not helping anything. Until you are able to do that, I suggest you stay silent, (unless there is something that absolutely needs to be responded to) and read what myself, and others are saying.


BUT THANKS TO ALL OF YOU KNOW IT ALL KNOW NOTHINGS, I CAN'T EVEN GIVE OUT MY TRUE STRENGTHS!

First off, insulting everyone is not a good way to convince us that you shouldn't be lynched. In fact, it will only help to increase your vote count.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT LYNCHING ME, YOU'LL BE SORRY. BECAUSE IF YOU DO LYNCH ME TODAY, I'M QUITTING AND NEVER COMING BACK TO GYM WW EVER AGAIN!

Don't threaten us, or try to send everyone on a guilt trip. It won't work, and in the end, will only make it harder for you to get out of this mess.

IT'S YOUR CALL WHETHER I STAY OR GO!

Uh, no. It is not our call, its your call. No one can force you to leave, or stay. That is your choice. If you want to leave, do not try to convince yourself that it was because of us. That would be untrue. If you leave, it is only because you decided to.

Also, you keep saying that everyone here thinks that you caused the town to lose last game. As far as I know, not one person has said that. Do you want to hear about the last game from a wolfs point of view? I'd be happy to do that for you.

Last game had the most disorganized, most gullible, pathetic town I have ever seen. It was not the fault of any single player, but of the entire town. If it had not been the fault of the entire town, at least one wolf would have been lynched. That was not the case. The wolves lead the town on a merry little chase throughout the entire game. And let me tell you, you were not the cause of all of that.

With that being said, stop playing so emotionally, stop ignoring questions, and stop lying.
 
Point taken, but still. Wow. It's just a game.

scorri wasn't saying anything about the emotional side of things. scorri was wondering why waynegg was so focused on the fact that PM claim Wigglytuff. scorri just felt like it was odd that out of all the things waynegg could have pushed, waynegg chose to push that.
 
I TOLD you, I knew nothing about the other two factions. Look, you're making a mistake. I ALWAYS get misinterpreted by everybody! That's my problem and why everyone of you think I suck!

STOP THE VOTES AND LISTEN TO ME!

I NEVER KNEW ABOUT EXTRA FACTIONS AND I GUESSED ON THEM UNTIL THE DOUBLE MODKILL HAPPENED. ALSO, I WILL ADMIT THAT I LIED ABOUT THE MESSAGE BEING A COMPUTER GLITCH. AS IRONIC AS IT SOUNDS, MY ROLE IS WIGGLYTUFF AND MY ABILITY IS CALLED RUBBER! THERE. ARE ALL OF YOU HAPPY NOW? I REALLY JUST HATE EVERYONE MISINTERPRETS ME! EVERYONE THINKS I SUCK, AND I GET BLAMED FOR THE LOSS I NEVER CAUSED! I ADMITTED TO MYSELF I SUCK, BUT NOW, I'M NOT THE WORST PLAYER ON THE GYM, WWXVI PROVED THAT, AND LOOKING BACK AT IT, I HAD POTENTIAL! BUT THANKS TO ALL OF YOU KNOW IT ALL KNOW NOTHINGS, I CAN'T EVEN GIVE OUT MY TRUE STRENGTHS! I AM THE NEXT SS7, I AM THE PLAYER THAT YOU NEED! ALL I NEED IS TO BE GUIDED INTO THE LIGHT! IT TAKES TIME FOR ONE TO BE GOOD IN WW, HOWEVER, ITS ONLY ONE IN A MILLION THAT SHINE OUT LIKE THE REST! I'M ONE IN THOSE A MILLION! SS7 IS ONE OF THOSE IN A MILLION! IKRIT IS ONE OF THOSE IN A MILLION! IF YOU THINK ABOUT LYNCHING ME, YOU'LL BE SORRY. BECAUSE IF YOU DO LYNCH ME TODAY, I'M QUITTING AND NEVER COMING BACK TO GYM WW EVER AGAIN! AFTERWARDS, THE TOWN CAN JUST KEEP ON LOSING GAMES AND JUST LEARN THAT I NEVER CAUSED THESE LOSSES! I NEVER CAUSED THE LOSS IN XVII, AND I NEVER CAUSED THE WOLF LOSS IN XVI! I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THOSE LOSSES! ITS ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT SAY I'M SCUM FOR NO REASON AND THE ONES THAT JUST DITCH ME IN THE END THAT CAUSED THOSE LOSSES! I'M NOT HOLDING BACK ANYMORE! I'M GOING TO REACH MY TRUE POTENTIAL IN THIS GAME NO MATTER IF YOU LIKE ME OR NOT! ITS EITHER YOU LOSE THE GAME AND A PLAYER OR YOU LOSE THE LIGHT THAT'S BLINDING YOU FROM THE TRUTH! THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW MY POTENTIAL, AT KNOWS MY POTENTIAL, IKRIT KNOWS MY POTENTIAL, AND I DARE SAY IT, KP KNOWS MY POTENTIAL! THE ONLY REASON WHY I PLAY IS FOR FUN, BUT THAT GETS RUINED WHEN YOU ARE LEFT IN THE SHADOWS OF OTHERS AND CONSIDERED SCUMMY FOR THE THINGS YOU DIDN'T DO! I MEAN, YOU NEVER LYNCH THE SCUMMIER GUY AS ALL OF YOU ARE TOO BLINDED BY THE LIGHT TO SEE Y TRUE POTENTIAL! LET ME SHOW YOU ALL WHAT I CAN DO! THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO TURN ME AROUND! WHAT IS YOUR CHOICE? WILL YOU LYNCH ME, LOSE THE GAME, AND MAKE ME QUIT? OR, WILL YOU RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION AND SEE WHAT I CAN DO? COME ON PEOPLE, SHOW THAT YOU'RE ALL SMART ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY FIND A WOLF AND NOT STUPID ENOUGH TO LYNCH SOMEONE OVER THE MOST STUPID STUFF! I'VE BEEN IN THE SHADOWS PUT DOWN BY MANY! KP PUT ME DOWN IN XVI, CABD PUT ME DOWN IN XVII, AND ALL OF YOU ARE PUTTING ME DOWN IN THIS GAME! I WAS ALSO KNOWN AS ONE OF THE WORST PLAYERS ON THE SITE FOR SO MANY STUPID REASONS! WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE ALL OF THIS UNFAIR TREATMENT? IF I DESERVED IT, I WOULD HAVE QUIT A LONG TIME AGO. I WOULD'VE ACTUALLY QUIT AFTER XVI WAS OVER HAD I KNOWN THAT I WAS GONNA BE TREATED LIKE CRAP! DON'T YOU SEE WHAT YOU'VE ALL BECOME? IT TRANSFORMED ME INTO A HELPLESS VICTIM OF THE ROPE! I KNOW I AM A GOOD PLAYER, BUT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THIS CRAP EVERY GAME BECAUSE OF MANY THINGS! I GET MISINTERPRETED BY OTHERS AND THEY SAY I'M SCUM! I'M SORRY IF THAT WAS THE CASE, ITS NOT MY FAULT I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH A CONDITION THAT MAKES ME THINK DIFFERENTLY OF OTHERS, ITS NOT MY FAULT THAT EVERYONE THINKS THAT THEY'RE SMARTED THAN EVERYONE ELSE, AND ITS NOT MY FAULT THAT I GET LYNCHED FOR NO GOOD REASON! I'VE HAD ENOUGH AND I'M GIVING YOU ALL ONE LAST CHANCE TO KEEP ME! TOWN, WILL YOU LOSE ME AND THE GAME OR WILL YOU LOST THE LIGHT THAT BLINDS YOU? IT'S YOUR CALL WHETHER I STAY OR GO!


Please, give me a second chance. I'm going through too much of this crap you guys throw at me. I got laughed at when I got lynched on Day 4 in WWXVI, I got blamed for the loss in XVII, and one thing they have in common is that one player put me down. Ironically, none of the players here can admit the truth as the ones that could say that I was a good player are all dead or replaced out (not including SS7 who I have a gut feeling will die on Night 3). If I quit, all of you will be ashamed you thought about making me go this far. I've went through enough and this is my 2nd to last chance to prove my point.

Honestly, this is a hunk of emotion problems that do not pertain to the game. Yes, the game. ITS. A. GAME.

>___>

Now quit it already. My vote stands.



If PMysterious flips anti-town, I seriously hope he's only aligned with himself. Giving an anti-town faction that kind of vote inflation means that stuff like MYLO/LYLO come far sooner than it should. In any event. . .

AbsolTrainer's role was really good. I'm not sure how ridiculous items get in these games, but given Kayle's role, it seems they exist. Would having one that daykills be considered overpowered? I have yet to be in a game where someone is daykilled (as a role) without any indication of it in-thread.

I dislike emotional manipulation, and town does not have any reason to make people feel bad for lynching them. There's a lot of things that displease me in mafia, but very few are to the point where I'm willing to lynch someone over something that's not directly pertinent to game content. Making people feel guilty for voting has no place in this game, and for the sake of both my sanity and the rest of the players, that needs to be removed. In the words of another game (slightly modified to make sure I don't break any rules; SF's more liberal when it comes to things I can post):




Unvote Glaceon
Vote PMysterious


Still would like an answer from Glaceon.


What would you like an answer on?
 
I TOLD you, I knew nothing about the other two factions. Look, you're making a mistake. I ALWAYS get misinterpreted by everybody! That's my problem and why everyone of you think I suck!

Stop the votes and listen to me.

[UNCAP]I admitted to myself I suck, but now, I’m not the worst player on the gym. XVI proved that, and look at my potential. But thanks to all of you know it all know nothings, I can’t even get out my true strengths. I am the next SS7. I am the player that you need. All I need is to be guided into the light. It takes time for one to be good in ww, however, its only one in a million that shine out like the rest. I’m one of those a million. Ss7 is one of those in a million. Ikrit is one of those in a million. If you think about lynching me, you’ll be sorry. Because if you do lynch me today, I’m quitting and never coming back to gym ww ever again. Afterwards, the town can just keep on losing games and just learn that I never caused those losses. I never caused the loss in XVII, and I never caused the wolf loss in XVI. I had nothing to do with those losses. Its all of the people that say I’m scum for no reason and the ones that just ditch me in the end that caused those losses. I’m not holding back anymore. I’m going to reach my true potential in this game no matter if you like me or not. Its either you lose the game and a player or you lose the light that blinding from the truth. There are people who know my potential, AT knows my potential, Ikrit knows my potential, and I dar say it, KP knows my potential. The only reason I play is for fun, but that gets ruined when you are left in the shadows of others and considered scummy for things you didn’t do. I mean you never lynch the scummier guy as all of you are too blinded by the light to see my true potention. Let me show you all what I can do. This is your last chance to turn me around. What is your choice? Will you lynch me, lose the game, and make me quit? Or will you reconsider your decision and see what I can do? Com on people, show that you’re all smart enough to actually find a wolf and not stupid enough to lynch someone over the most stupid stuff. I’ve been in the shadows put down by many. KP put me down in XVI, Cabd in XVII, and all of you are putting me down in this game. I was also known as one of the worst players on the site for so many stupid reasons. What did I do to deserve all of this unfair treatment? If I deserved it, I would have quit a long time ago. I would’ve actually quit after XVI was over had I know that I was gonna be treated like crap. Don’t you see what you’ve all become? It transformed me into a helpless victim of the rope. I know I am a good player, but I have to deal with all of this crap every game because of many things. I get misinterpreted by others and they say I’m scum. I’m sorry if that was the case, its not my fault I have been diagnosed with a condition that makes me think differently of others, its not my fault that everyone thinks that they’re smarted than everyone else, and its not my fault that I get lynched for no good reason. I have enough and I’m giving you all one last chance to keep me. Town, will you lose me and the game or will you lost the light that blinds you. It is your call whether I stay or go.[/uncap]

Please, give me a second chance. I'm going through too much of this crap you guys throw at me. I got laughed at when I got lynched on Day 4 in WWXVI, I got blamed for the loss in XVII, and one thing they have in common is that one player put me down. Ironically, none of the players here can admit the truth as the ones that could say that I was a good player are all dead or replaced out (not including SS7 who I have a gut feeling will die on Night 3). If I quit, all of you will be ashamed you thought about making me go this far. I've went through enough and this is my 2nd to last chance to prove my point.


I quoted this post for a few reasons. One of which is to give players a place to read PM's post without the capitals.



PM. Please read my post thoroughly.


No one here is doing any of the things that you say they are. You claim that players are telling you that you suck. NO ONE has done that.

NO ONE has blamed you for the wolf loss in XVI. The Town was drastically overpowered and there was nothing the wolves could have done.

NO ONE has blamed you for the town loss in XVII C. The ENTIRE town lost the game.


Look me in the eyes. I am being terribly serious right now. What you are claiming does not exist.


I don't know where you are getting this incredibly emotional response. No, that is a lie. I do know where you are getting this emotional response from.


Mafiascum.


That's right. Mafiascum. I've seen and heard what you've experienced over there.



You are letting your emotions guide you. You are too far under their sway. Please literally take a step back from the computer. Breath deeply in through your nose and out through your mouth 7 times.


Are you back? Good.


You are playing in Gym WW XVIII. No one has told you that you suck, nor that they blame you for those losses. Please do not let other websites or games bleed over through your psyche to this game. If you need to stop playing on Mafiascum, so be it. But you are projecting behaviors of random internet users with no filter on their thoughts to here, and that is not a positive thing.




Getting back to the meat of your post.




I TOLD you, I knew nothing about the other two factions. Look, you're making a mistake. I ALWAYS get misinterpreted by everybody! That's my problem and why everyone of you think I suck!

1) What proof do we have? You may say that you knew nothing, but to us you could be lying. Some might believe you, and some might not. That is the beauty of WW. If you want to succeed you must show people the reasons to believe you.

2) No one misinterpreted you. You were one of the first (or first) who suggested an alternate faction to the wolves. It is up to everyone whether to believe that you were "hypothesizing" or not. Personally, I believe you knew there were other factions. I'm not telling you that you suck. You may claim I'm misinterpreting you, but based on your posts D1 it seems logical that you knew there were other factions. You are disagreeing with me. That is what happens in Werewolf.

3) If you feel that you are being INTENTIONALLY misinterpreted then that is a GREAT thing to use to point to someone's possibility of being scum. Scum will misinterpret and fudge posts to get their own agenda across, while townies want things as clear as possible. Consistent misinterpretation can definitely be an adjunctive method for finding scum.



Please, give me a second chance. I'm going through too much of this crap you guys throw at me. I got laughed at when I got lynched on Day 4 in WWXVI, I got blamed for the loss in XVII, and one thing they have in common is that one player put me down. Ironically, none of the players here can admit the truth as the ones that could say that I was a good player are all dead or replaced out (not including SS7 who I have a gut feeling will die on Night 3). If I quit, all of you will be ashamed you thought about making me go this far. I've went through enough and this is my 2nd to last chance to prove my point.

Again. You are projecting Mafiascum's actions on to us. We are not "throwing crap" at you.

You were not "laughed at" when you got lynched. If you believe you were, quote the post.

Quote the post where you were blamed for the loss in XVII.

I've continually told you about your growth potential. Reread the Wolf QT where I continually encouraged your continued learning.

If you quit, I'll be ashamed that you felt that was your only recourse. But I see no evidence HERE that you have been "put down." As I said before, you are projecting Mafiascum to here. In fact I feel that you should stop playing there indefinitely. It has not been positive for your WW growth from what I've seen.





PART 2

PM. I've avoided talking about this for a while now, But I feel I have no choice because you keep bringing it up.

You have said numerous times that you feel I should die soon in this game. I'm going to elaborate on the ramifications of this.

1) The wolves and scum factions know who the "good players are." They usually kill those who are the biggest threat to them, which could be either "Day Threat" or "Night Threat."

2) You've (in many ways) brought up either my "good-player-ness" or my "poor-player-ness." This is heightening/lowering my perceived influence in the village. If heightening, this gives my thoughts bearing in conversation (unless you are Waynegg and ignore my points and questions until I repeat them).

Thus the wolves/scum are left with two possibilities.

1) Kill me ASAP.

2) Keep me alive until they feel I'm playing too pro-town that I'm not under suspicion for being a scum in the general consensus of the town.


Now that you've brought this up again and again I'm now at the forefront of their mind, and I cannot continue my normal strategy (see ALL previous Gym WW games I've played for the evidence). I usually sit back and make small helpful posts and scum hunt under the radar until later game, where I turn up the pressure and out scum I've deduced.

So. You've completely shot my chances of playing my normal playstyle anymore.


I'm going to have to be aware of this fact now. and try to change my playstyle to be more efficient earlier game.




PART 3


PMysterious. You are playing anti-town. You are not playing "poorly," but you are playing anti-town.

1) You are appealing to emotion to get us to keep you in the game.
This is your last chance to turn me around. What is your choice? Will you lynch me, lose the game, and make me quit?
Playing on our emotions by threatening to quit is manipulative. Manipulation is scummy and anti-town.


2) You are lying constantly.
I know I'm not the best player on the Gym yet, but I can be. I have the potential, but I've been hiding in the shadows for so long. If you say I'm so scummy, here's a thought for ya.
Kill: SMP88
Ta ta for now, Captain scummy.
Also, for those that ask how my computer can glitch up the post I'm trying to make, it just can. I know it doesn't make sense, but its doing its own thing.
You lied that you picked up a gun, and lied that you killed SMP88. You lied that you hid your role claim in your post.


3) You are not basing your arguments in logic.
I know I'm not the best player on the Gym yet, but I can be. I have the potential, but I've been hiding in the shadows for so long. If you say I'm so scummy, here's a thought for ya.
Kill: SMP88
Ta ta for now, Captain scummy.
Let me break this down for you. The logic here states: SMP says PM is scummy. PM says SMP is scummy for saying PM is scummy. Do you see the problem here? This is circular reasoning, which is a logical fallacy.


4) You are claiming that you alone will cause the town to win.
Scum players want to make themselves the most important town player. "If I get lynched, you LOSE." This is the biggest strong-arm tactic that scum will use.


5) You are insulting players
But thanks to all of you know it all know nothings




Do you have a response? If you make a statement or a claim like "Players tell me that I suck" please QUOTE the post. I (and no one else) will believe you if you claim extreme statements without evidence.

I don't see ANY evidence of this harassment or abuse you are claiming from us Gym players. Nor do I see any place where you have been blamed for things that are not yours to control (XVI or XVII).



I DARE you to find those posts. TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU. You WON'T FIND THEM.


I'm so confident that if you DO find anything like that I will literally print out the page with that post and eat it. Yes. I will literally eat printer paper.






PM

This has gone on long enough.


1) You are projecting grievances against players who have none with you.
2) You are claiming to be the town's Only Hope in this game.
3) You are lying constantly and making fake role-claims.
4) You are appealing to the emotion of the village to get what you want, thus manipulating us.
5) The above outline why you are playing Anti-Town/scummy.


Thus I stand by my vote that you are anti-town/scummy, and wish for you to be lynched.

I do NOT think you are a bad player. But I will not succumb to intimidation tactics, nor do I see a defense for your scummy actions.

I do NOT wish for you to stop playing WW. However I do wish for you to realize that this is a game with multiple factions that sometimes (rarely) get out of hand. When that is the case bring it to one of the moderators. If you find yourself in an environment that is not positive, remove yourself from it. Again I feel it is unwise for you to continue to play on MS if this type of emotional bleed-through is the outcome from playing there.


Vote Confirmed

Defend yourself with logic and reason.
 
scorri thinks that maybe it would be good if JQ restated her questions for waynegg since scorri just went through JQ's last 10 or so posts in the game and couldn't see any specific questions that needed to be answered. scorri is a little uneasy with JQ's general attitude towards waynegg right now, scorri is getting a victimizing type vibe "Oh look at how waynegg keeps ignoring posts, waynegg must be scum, jq is being ignored" etc.

It's more a "Why is waynegg, if he is a townie, ignoring me?" attitude.


Really? OMG! Stop skimming and READ...



This game doesn't revolve around you. You don't get to demand answers to questions that have already been answered when other players asked the exact same question. If you want to know the answers, go back and read them. That's how this game is played.

Oh yeah, and you forgot to actually vote.

Okay, sorry, I hadn't realized that you had answered questions for another player, and I will go back and look at them.

And yes, I did forget.

Unvote: waynegg
Vote: PMysterious


@PMysterious:

Holy cow. Exactly what was that? You remind me of my little brother in sooo many ways. If the town jumps on you, you yell at us, if the town asks you questions, you yell us as, and if the town tries to help you because you asked for it, you yell at us.

This is the reason that we don't try to help you is because you get overly emotional like this. It is a game, there is no reason to get so worked up. I've been lynched in two out of three games I've played, and that was because of the fact that I dug myself into holes that I couldn't climb out of(and because in the last one the wolves managed to quick lynch before I could defend myself. :/) but I am not printed huge walls text yelling at the town.

I just read SS7's post, and I agree with him 100%.
 
VOTE COUNT:
38 Remaining
20 to lynch


PMysterious- 16 (Benson, Waynegg, Pokemonplayer101, Thunderjolt, xxumbreonxx, StrongRhino, Scorri, SMP88, Kirbyking, Glaceon, Sandslash7, Jpulice, Pokemonfreak5, Eclipse, DarthPika, JewelQuest)

Waynegg- 1 (Human Destroyer)

Pikajewel- 9 (PMysterious)

Pokemonrocks777- 1 (Prohawk)

G landers- 1 (Dragonclyne725)



Please make sure that you are voting for the person you mean to be voting for.

Also, just a reminder. I am watching the game to make sure things stay moderately friendly. One or two posts have almost reached the boundaries of that limit, so please make sure you do your part to keep everything enjoyable for all players. Thank you.
 
...

That post was directed at PM, not at you.

Oooops *slams head on table* ouch. :biggrin:


I'm so confident that if you DO find anything like that I will literally print out the page with that post and eat it. Yes. I will literally eat printer paper.



I know this is not game related but..... LOL.


Now I'm probably like my sister in many ways in WW and this is one of them. I think I dig my own graves:redface:.

Anyways like I said before, I. AM. NOT. MEWTWO.

Please go back and read mew's role and see what might I be claiming about instead of randomly doing this because you are completely and totally GOING THE WRONG WAY!

Have fun.
 
I like how no one listened to my post against waynegg because of the PM bandwagon.

Fun times.

Not really too sure on it myself, I think this is just PM being himself, although I have seen some compelling arguments.

He has enough votes on him for now though, so I'll stay off.
 
Oooops *slams head on table* ouch. :biggrin:


I'm so confident that if you DO find anything like that I will literally print out the page with that post and eat it. Yes. I will literally eat printer paper.



I know this is not game related but..... LOL.


Now I'm probably like my sister in many ways in WW and this is one of them. I think I dig my own graves:redface:.

Anyways like I said before, I. AM. NOT. MEWTWO.

Please go back and read mew's role and see what might I be claiming about instead of randomly doing this because you are completely and totally GOING THE WRONG WAY!

Have fun.

So you're either Dialga, Celebi or you know IS targeted you N1? Are you the one who "killed" Jellyfisher N1?
 
Seriously, I was not kidding when I said that I was gonna quit if you lynch me and I could lynch myself right now as my vote counts as 9, but since I want to stay, I can't. Now, what are you all doing? Lynching me for nothing! Would you rather leave me alive and at least have a player around for future games that you know is trying to play the game but can't because everyone is lying themselves? Or would you rather lynch a Townie for no reason and have a player that leaves for good? Also, I just NOW found out the gun had no bullets. If all else fails, there's nothing else for me to do.

Unvote: Pikajewel

You have 2 days to lynch me, but the question is, would you rather do it and force me to leave. I will admit, I'm not the best player and in NO way, I'm the one that can save us. But, when I try to play this game, everyone wants to Policy Lynch me for reasons never presented. SS7 is lying about his words and all he's doing is to try and get me modkilled. In no way I did any of the stuff SS7 mentioned. I once knew him as an honest guy, but he has been corrupted by something which I don't know what. All of his posts turned from the truth to nothing but lies. He has no honesty in his soul anymore. When he said that we're removing Vet Reverence, that was a lie. Look at what you're doing now! You're following SS7 who is a Vet and lynching me who is nowhere near that status. Look, the only reason why I survived 4 days as Alpha Wolf in XVI was because I was just lucky that day. I let luck drive me. I can change from the worst player on the Gym to something you can rely on. Please, I just want one more chance. That's all I want, if you give me that chance, I promise I will change. Please reconsider this action and please understand what I'm saying. I no longer trust SS7 and I am stepping away from his shadow and the shadows of all the Veterans. I'm not a veteran, I'm someone that can be dangerous. As quoted from Cabd to many of the players.

Cabd said:
You should not idolize Vets and instead should idolize players like jpulice and others that can play the game really well.

I was in the shadows always getting lynched for the exact same reason every time. Vet Reverence is still in this game. Did all of you notice that in our games AFTER the discussion, a Newbie or non-vet was always the first player to be lynched? How come no one has ever noticed that except me? SS7 is nothing but lies. Vet Reverence is still in this game and even SS7 knows about it. Let's break Vet Reverence today and if you all agree with me on this, we are lynching a Vet today and not me. I promise you that Vet Reverence is gonna be history once we do the right thing. Get off me and get on any Veteran player you feel like. It doesn't matter.

SS7: You promised Vet Reverence would have been gone, but through past analysis, Vet Reverence is still out there. Why did Vet Reverence not get removed and why are you trying to keep it around by lynching me? If you lie about this answer, I will vote you.
 
PM, you are not helping your case. There is NO vet reverence going on here. We are only lynching the players that are playing scummy. If new players can't figure out that playing like scum gets you lynched, then that's their own problem. Don't start accusing the rest of us of vet reverence because you're getting votes because of your poor play.
 
Please note this is unrelated to the game at hand immediately.



PM, please do not slander me by making up fake quotes. I have never once uttered that phrase. I will no longer stand idly by as you do so, and from now on any such actions will be reported to the moderator team here.
Back to being modkilled/replaced I go.
 
PM


You clearly did not read my post. Please do so.


I have only told the truth. I note that you have not quoted any posts that back up your claims. I, however, have quoted your posts and shown where you have lied.



The village is not voting for you because of me. We are voting for you because of YOU. YOU are playing anti-town and scummy. I outline it plain as day in my post.


Please address my comments in my previous post. Defend yourself with logic and reason.




SS7: You promised Vet Reverence would have been gone, but through past analysis, Vet Reverence is still out there. Why did Vet Reverence not get removed and why are you trying to keep it around by lynching me? If you lie about this answer, I will vote you.


Quote the post. Quote the post and I will literally eat it.

I never promised it would be gone. I've done my best to remove it, but I am only one man. I cannot control the actions of the other players. I cannot force Ikrit or Cardz or LOLZ or shinygyarados to post the way I want to post. We have made wonderful strides, and there is more work to be done.


You misunderstand. Lynching you is not promoting VetRev. I don't have any idea how you would even assume that is the case. It does not logically follow.



What does logically follow is the lynching a player who is playing scummy and anti-town, for their scummy and anti-town actions and posts.
 
PMysterious, you are receiving a public warning. I have cautioned you and you continue to insult other players only a few hours after I reminded everyone to keep it friendly, as well as make fake quotes from other members on Pokegym. Please cease these actions immediately.

This does not mean you will necessarily be modkilled if you break this rule again. This is to show everyone what is not acceptable. Thank you.
 
Seriously, I'm just tired of this. I know we still have 2 days, but if people want to drop the hammer I'd be cool with that. All this talk from/about PM is just distracting from scum hunting. I really don't see anything other than a back and forth happening the rest of this day, so we should just drop the hammer and get it over with.

PM, please tell me exactly where the vet reverence is? What I see is people going after scummy plays. D1 was vablakes who performed a bad gambit. D2 was waynegg and vablakes, one who performed a gambit that could be considered scummy (since he was purposely acting scummy) and the other was a known Pokemon when the only thing we knew at the time was that at least 1 Pokemon had its own win condition. Today you're the target because of a slew of scummy things that you've done since revealing your role (which in and of itself was a bad idea). Nothing I see there is vet reverence.
 
You have 2 days to lynch me, but the question is, would you rather do it and force me to leave. I will admit, I'm not the best player and in NO way, I'm the one that can save us. But, when I try to play this game, everyone wants to Policy Lynch me for reasons never presented. SS7 is lying about his words and all he's doing is to try and get me modkilled. In no way I did any of the stuff SS7 mentioned.

Oh? Then what about the posts I quoted? Where I proved you lied about the gun and about hiding your role-claim in your post.

This is not a "Policy Lynch." I have outlined my reasons for voting for you. You are the one who said you are being "policy lynched." Not me.

If you believe so, which policy?

Another to add to the list of scummy plays is this one: Putting words in player's mouths. Scum are the players who fake quotes to get players to believe them, as well as saying that I'm trying to "get you modkilled" You are the one who said that. Not me.


Again my vote for you is confirmed by your continued anti-town play.







Defend yourself with reason and logic. Quote posts with links.

I'm not trying to get you modkilled. I'm voting for you so that you may be lynched, due to your scummy and anti-town actions and posts, outlined in this post and my other posts.
 
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