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Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!

DarthPika said:
Eclipse,

My role is not that powerful. I have to guess who will be receiving votes for the day. I also have to try and direct the votes to someone who is deserving of a lynch. This is not exactly easy to do, and has yet to actually work. It's a very luck based move (as it is in the actual game), and is less powerful than you seem to realize.

As for my second ability, it is nothing overly special, or that unusual for a townie. I have a chance to kill a wolf if I guess right. If not, there's a VERY good chance I'll die, to preserve the life of a townie/random other faction.

So, if I get a wolf it will work 100% of the time, and we get a wolf kill.

If I hit a townie/non wolf, it works 20% of the time.

What are the draw backs to this? Well, first of all it requires me actually getting enough votes to be "lynched". I have to guess who's a wolf. If I guess wrong, I likely die.

The last thing I would like to ask. Why would an anti town faction have use of a power that kills wolves, and preserves townies? You could argue that it also protects other factions, but I think we can agree that a 100% kill on wolves AND other non town factions would be a bit broken.

I am not a wolf, I am not "pokemon wins", I am town.




I was informed that I was turned into a wolf at the start of this game day, and the change had occurred during the game night. It was the same as JQ, and I was not informed of any other wolves, and only that my win condition was "wolves win".

Today, when pikamaster posted "something happened!" I received a PM that I had found a suit of armor, which had broken the curse which I had been under and my win condition had reverted to town wins.

PJ:

The suit of armor protects me from a night kill. As far as if it's an in game mechanic, or someones role, I do not know. All I know is he made that post, and I found it. I'm quite certain that everyone can verify that no one else received any such PM.
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Ah thank you! That will be useful, one less Maybe town that can be killed!

Schizo said:
xxumbreonxx you gonna be more active? you an outlaw to?

Vote: Pokemonfreak5

still an outlaw
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What is with you? Why do you think PF5 is and outlaw or wolf? you need proof or you get killed.

To other players, we've had a lot of situations like Schizo this game, show your opinions, the worst thing that can happen is that you'll get lynched, and this is just a game.

Schizo said:
or he might be a wolf, stupid post reply and not go advanced
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Who might be a wolf? DP? I haven't seen anybody making stupid posts. None of your posts have been extraordinary.
 
Schizo said:
xxumbreonxx you gonna be more active? you an outlaw to?

Vote: Pokemonfreak5

still an outlaw
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Schizo, you realize why your play was bad, right?

A) You painted a huge target on your back
B) I will NEVER vote for the person that you think is an outlaw. Most likely, others won't either. You will never get the lynch. Enjoy being the only person that votes pokemonfreak5 every week.
 
We were rushed for a lunch yesterday and so a few of us, myself included, saw schizo as a 'well it's better than nothing' lynch.
Now that we have more time, id like to be a bit more thorough when it comes to Schizo.

Why do you think I'm an outlaw? You never answered this. Just a hunch or do you have evidence? If it is a hunch or a gut feeling, what provoked it?
If you're so sure that I am an outlaw, why do you first label me as a wolf. You changed your mind very quickly on that one.
Why do you so often post about things that are not relevant to the current discussion. Not being blindly single minded is good, and this would be fair enough if you were an active poster. But given the frequency of your posts, this seems to be more of a distraction or evasion technique.

I still think your play has been questionable at best and you really have some explaining to do.
 
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So that makes one role-given shield and another suit of armor. I'm still not buying it on the basis that it's absolutely insane.

vegitalian said:
Schizo, you realize why your play was bad, right?

A) You painted a huge target on your back
B) I will NEVER vote for the person that you think is an outlaw. Most likely, others won't either. You will never get the lynch. Enjoy being the only person that votes pokemonfreak5 every week.
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Do you think Schizo is town? I honestly can't tell what he's trying to accomplish with empty accusations.
 
eclipse said:
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So that makes one role-given shield and another suit of armor. I'm still not buying it on the basis that it's absolutely insane.
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You have every right to be skeptical. Taking anything at face value is a dangerous move in this game.

However, there's been a few things that have come up so far that I would have classified as "absolutely insane". Based on the claim only, this seems plausible. I just think we need to hear more from everyone.

Now is not the time for inactivity.
 
eclipse said:
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So that makes one role-given shield and another suit of armor. I'm still not buying it on the basis that it's absolutely insane.



Do you think Schizo is town? I honestly can't tell what he's trying to accomplish with empty accusations.
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I think he's probably an independent that needs to take out Outlaws. Either way, I don't support his initiative nor his win condition, and if I were in his shoes I would be a little bit more discreet about it. The way he's playing (scattering votes) is only helping the wolves.
 
vegitalian said:
I think he's probably an independent that needs to take out Outlaws. Either way, I don't support his initiative nor his win condition, and if I were in his shoes I would be a little bit more discreet about it. The way he's playing (scattering votes) is only helping the wolves.
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Agree with this entirely, Seruiously this is supposed to be a think-it-through game, not a crazy shoot anybody you see. I'm wary of Schizo, he may just not get what he should be doing. Either way he may end up being very very dangerous.
 
VOTE COUNT:
14 Remaining
7 to lynch

DarthPika- 5 (Vegitalian, Shinori, Kirbyking, Eclipse, Benson)

Azure Kite- 1 (DarthPika)

Pokemonfreak5- 1 (Schizo)


The players Pokemonrocks777 and Shinori needs to post today or risk modkill. Azurekite has already contacted me about being unable to access a computer.
 
pokemonplayer101, why are you so eager to end the day? Why do you insist on completely ignoring my arguments? You are not playing like a townie right now.

I apologize for the delay in posting. It's been a bit rough trying to get back into everything after spring break, and I have exams next week. I'll have time to make my post tomorrow afternoon, after I get off from class. I have several things I want to respond to, and I will keep my word and prove my self town.
 
pokemonplayer101 said:
PLEASE please please please please please PLEASE let me put DP a t L-1. Pleeeeeeeeeease!!! I really want to vote him.
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What do we possibly gain from this??? Seriously. If the town as a whole decides on this lynch, you can really place your vote. In the meantime all that does is puts us more at risk of a wolf hammer.


You shot way up on my scum list. Please explain your logic.
 
pokemonfreak5 said:
You have every right to be skeptical. Taking anything at face value is a dangerous move in this game.

However, there's been a few things that have come up so far that I would have classified as "absolutely insane". Based on the claim only, this seems plausible. I just think we need to hear more from everyone.

Now is not the time for inactivity.
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I'd say the second-most insane thing was jpulice's role, and I wish he'd said something about it sooner. I didn't know about the other half of his role, or I wouldn't have been so quick to pin his choice of targets as anti-town. However, that inspection came with a massive drawback. DarthPika's claims don't seem to have one, which is why I'm extremely wary of them. If you have any other role-related examples (people who have flipped), can you post them?

vegitalian said:
I think he's probably an independent that needs to take out Outlaws. Either way, I don't support his initiative nor his win condition, and if I were in his shoes I would be a little bit more discreet about it. The way he's playing (scattering votes) is only helping the wolves.
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That works as a motive. I've seen one other person do what Schizo is doing now. General policy at SF is that if someone's being difficult, they get thrown out of the game with a rope around their neck. I do not know if that same policy is adhered to here.
 
pokemonfreak5 said:
What do we possibly gain from this??? Seriously. If the town as a whole decides on this lynch, you can really place your vote. In the meantime all that does is puts us more at risk of a wolf hammer.


You shot way up on my scum list. Please explain your logic.
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In my personal opinion stating that you want to put someone at L-1 is a lot different than doing it. I don't think that in itself should really affect a scum read on someone.
 
Frankly I don't know where the believe Darthpika or not but as to looking at his role I see no reason as to not go ahead and lynch him. If he's town he picks a scum read of the towns choosing ideally and if that person is scum then Darthpika lives and the scum dies. If not then we know for sure that person is cleared town.

Either way we can get a cleared townie(or at least a cleared non-wolf) by lynching DarthPika assuming he does as we ask.

So frankly I say we lynch Darth and start talking on who we think Darth should pick for his mirror move ability.

If this was already mentioned then I apologize for not already seeing it as I skimmed through the majority of what was posted.


Thanks for posting so I could finally post this. It's been sitting here since I posted earlier.
 
Azure Kite is next on my list of suspects. Unfortunately, I won't have an ability to use this game night unless I get lucky.
 
We could just lynch darth pika and have him use his ability on azure kite who is who he seems to be suspicious of anyway.
 
I would rather we not have to do that. However, if that is the towns decision, I feel fairly confident that it will end with Azure Kite flipping wolf and me remaining alive.

Look at my past play. It would have been very easy for me to attack waynegg when he was under suspicion and get him lynched. I defended him against SS7, who later was shown to be a wolf.

Look at how hard prohawk attacked me the previous day. There's busing, and then there's trying to get someone lynched. You don't bus someone THAT hard, especially when that person hasn't been taking overly much heat until that point. A good player wouldn't do that. Lets say for the sake of argument that I am a wolf. Prohawk was pushing very hard for my lynch. If nothing else, the entire situation cast a great amount of suspicion on me, which caused a seer to look at me. A player as experienced as prohawk would NEVER draw that much attention to a fellow wolf, especially if he was going to take him self out and reduce the wolves numbers even farther. Look at the play. Take a second to think through this, and I'm sure you'll see it doesn't make any sense for me to be a wolf given what happened.

Vegi said he was going to look at me or AK, so they KNEW to turn me into a wolf and hope he looked at me. It's pretty obvious that he was going to pick me over the newer player anyway, as I certainly wasn't surprised. Why did I survive the blast? Because the wolves have no killing powers. Therefore, they need a way to control the lynch (or at least try to). Prohawk was setting up the lynch for after he died, and it certainly has been working so far. I applaud the wolves, as they've been playing very well, and this particular setup has been masterful.

I beg you to consider what I've said and vote for Azure Kite. I have been pushing for his lynch for several days now, and am sure by now that he is one of the few remaining wolves.

I would rather not have to use my power, but I feel confident enough in my suspicions that Azure Kite is a wolf that I will vote my self if needed in order to use it on him, to assist the town. If I happen to be wrong, die, at least you can clear 2 more townies, and narrow down the list of suspects.
 
Think about this DP. If you are lying, then we lynch a wolf. If you are being truthful, we have found a non-wolf and can kill a wolf. Or the off chance that you and Azure Kite are both not wolves, which is very unlikely. Your lynch looks pretty good right now.
 
VOTE COUNT:
14 Remaining
7 to lynch

DarthPika- 5 (Vegitalian, Shinori, Kirbyking, Eclipse, Benson)

Azure Kite- 1 (DarthPika)

Pokemonfreak5- 1 (Schizo)
 
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