Cabd, I will address your points.
1. Azure Kite was NEVER "held in reserve". I replaced players in the order they asked to be replaced. End of story.
As a side note, I'd like to point out that you and Jpulice tried to get Innocent Shine specifically to replace a member of your wolf team in WW XVII: C. Don't accuse me of doing something I never did, especially if you tried to get it done for yourself.
A [DEL]girl[/DEL] guy has his secrets. And yeah, i would like a reminder. Must be going senile in my old age.2. How did you get access to the wolf thread? You, nor any player, was supposed to have access to it, nor does anything said there matter. Might I remind you of the loving things you've said about myself, DP, and other players? Again, this has no bearing on anything, players may think of you how they want, and if it's off-site, say it how they want.
It doesn't matter. You don't tell ONE faction mod-related information ahead of any other. Had you posted that on thread instead of telling one player, I agree, the point would be moot. But you did not. You only told one player out of 44 (or however many were alive not named JP at the time)I was specifically asked if Jpulice was going to be modkilled as he was a potential target for the wolf kill and had broken the rules to the point of being modkilled. I did not discuss whether or not Jpulice should be modkilled, I informed DP (and the wolves) that Jpulice was probably being modkilled, so they should choose another target. I did not discuss if Jpulice would be banned or not, that is covered in the rules.
No, this was likely an innocent mistake but just letting it go was a second mistake.3. Are you accusing LucarioEX of bias now? Who is she biased towards? LucarioEX made a mistake, not me, there is no bias here.
I would like to know what university system has finals every other week, so that I may avoid it like the plague. The whole point of a werewolf time schedule is to stick to it as much as possible. Not to suit the fancy of one player, or even one faction.4. DarthPika requested time extensions, LucarioEX and I took it into consideration because DP is not the only player who would be time restrained on those terms, and we granted it. This was not solely my decision, so unless you want to accuse LEX of bias, too, then your point is invalid.
So then, the rules only apply when people thank things you disagree with?5. Darthpika was one of many to thank that post, and that was telling everyone to chill. Your post was basically saying "I don't respect your authority because I'm posting again after I was told not to and I'm going to make a snide comment". There is a difference.
I was specifically asked if Jpulice was going to be modkilled as he was a potential target for the wolf kill and had broken the rules to the point of being modkilled. I did not discuss whether or not Jpulice should be modkilled, I informed DP (and the wolves) that Jpulice was probably being modkilled, so they should choose another target. I did not discuss if Jpulice would be banned or not, that is covered in the rules.
I'm not sure who thought giving the wolves a chosen 5 person NK ability was a good idea. That ability effectively killed all conversation in this game.
I'm not sure who thought giving the wolves a chosen 5 person NK ability was a good idea. That ability effectively killed all conversation in this game.
Sources:
Game Thread
Wolf QT (http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/cigASRPRavbYV)
PMs from Pikamaster to JP and Cabd
AzureKite was recruited by a member of the scum team, Darthpika (Pikamaster's sibling) and held specifically in reserve for a player form said brother's team. This means that right here we have a rigging of metagame mechanics to favor the scum team.
However he also says:
He specifically said AK was kept in reserve for SR, but now it is "If I even implied that, it was not my intention."
Alternates:
1. [DEL]Pmysterious[/DEL]
2. [DEL]Innocent Shine[/DEL]
3. [DEL]Scottistru[/DEL]
4. desufnoc
5. [DEL]Jason[/DEL]
6. pokemon99
While this was happening, JP and I were being lovingly discussed by the wolf team:
You and I may not like each other very much, DarthPika, but calling JP and I names is hardly the way to go about being civil. It is hardly foolish to bring up legitimate concerns regarding the integrity of a major game.
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I take ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY for anyone insulted by what we said here.
I take ABSOLUTELY ALL RESPONSIBILITY for anyone who thinks this QT is freaking awesome.
WOLF QT HERE
Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Seriously cabd, you tried to do the exact same thing that you are saying that Pikamaster has done. The proof of this is below.
During last game, cabd made this post in the WW QT. The link for that QT is right here http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/vExEnXAp5BYs. The posts from it have only been bolded to make reading everything easier.
Cabd
10-06-2012
11:46 PM ET (US)
PokemonPlayer101 is getting replaced by my girlfriend (Innocent_Shine). We have to take her carefully, she's a MUCH better player than PP101 is. Of course, it's possible we can turn her against certain others (She hates PM a LOT), but I dunno.
I wonder, if we end up pushing the DP lynch, if Diaz might get counter-attacked by some more townies.
Anyways, Innocent's play style is more aggro than most. Expect her to be hot on the trail of anything she can sink her teeth into.
So okay, he is saying that IS is a good player, no problem there. This post also makes it clear that he was fully aware that IS was next in line to be replaced, and that the town had someone that needed to be replaced before the wolves did. Now for the next post.
JpulicePerson was signed in when posted
10-07-2012
11:46 AM ET (US)
Unless we kill her tonight!!!! Also, we should ask for Kezzup to be replaced, since he hasn't posted today. (unless he does)..... Maybe she can replace into our team. We take IS and they get scottistru. Well just a thought.
Ah, the irony. It was even jpulice that made this post. But anyway, Jpulice tried to do something that he accused Pikamaster of doing, and made the reason for why he quit the game. Now we go onto the next post.
Cabd
10-07-2012
02:20 PM ET (US)
Send SS7 a message requesting her.
And on top of all of that, SS7's list of replacements makes it clear that IS was next in line to go in for someone.
Kezzup had not asked for a replacement, and the townie that requested to be replaced did so during the game day. So whichever way you look at it, there was no doubt that IS was supposed to go in for the town, not the wolves.
So cabd, can you explain this? Can you explain why you (and Jpulice) tried to do the exact same thing that you are accusing Pikamaster of having done?
So I am not going to say that it was kind of DP to call you and JP names. However, that post was NOT made on Pokegym, and I fail to see why you are bringing it up with a matter that concerns Pokegym. Especially after you made the post below.
But putting all of that aside for the moment, the game was fun while it lasted. Good game everyone.
Then explain your PM to jpulice where you SPEICIFCALLY say he was in fact held in reserve.
Indeed we did. And do you know what the mod did? He refused, as is the correct response. As a player, you are in a biased situation to want a certain thing. It is the mod's job to not let that happen. Which is what SS7 did.
A girl guy has his secrets. And yeah, i would like a reminder. Must be going senile in my old age.
It doesn't matter. You don't tell ONE faction mod-related information ahead of any other. Had you posted that on thread instead of telling one player, I agree, the point would be moot. But you did not. You only told one player out of 44 (or however many were alive not named JP at the time)
No, this was likely an innocent mistake but just letting it go was a second mistake.
I would like to know what university system has finals every other week, so that I may avoid it like the plague. The whole point of a werewolf time schedule is to stick to it as much as possible. Not to suit the fancy of one player, or even one faction.
So then, the rules only apply when people thank things you disagree with?
Additionally, NOWEHERE, and I mean NOWHERE, was it explained how the Outlaw and Enforcer win condition worked. It is INCREDIBLY unfair to those players to essentially be forced to play blindly, having no clue how to win or lose the game they are in. (Technically the outlaws may have known, I’ve only seen the enforcer chat)
There is no postgame thread. This IS the postgame thread.I owe all of you plenty of explanation, which I'll get to in the postgame thread.
SMP88 - Look at the wolf kills. We aimed for active people early/midgame, to kill day discussion. Prohawk sped it up considerably.
The roles were interesting, to say the least. I haven't played with most of them until now.
I know darthpika and pikamaster are your brothers so you may find this upsetting you on a personal level, but that is the distinction.
Which is exactly what I intend to do, as I'm already talking about setup issues and modifications, save for responding to your brothers.Since you already admitted that you would have done it if you could have done it, I suggest you stop. I don't care what you or anyone else believes. I know what I said, I know what he said. I don't think anything biased happened with my knowledge. HOWEVER, what has been done has been done. Let us move on now.
There is no postgame thread. This IS the postgame thread.
I have google talk open with said person right now, you know. He specifically directed me to post the game setup discussion here, as well as postgame talk.I trust this guy more than you. According to that post, this is a place to discuss things like game mechanics, balance, etc. If you have a specific problem with the way the game was run, take it up to the hosts/forum mods via PM or a Quicktopic. Complaining about it here is doing favors for no one.