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I don't think I've ever seen a discussion turn from what started as a legitimate discussion of prizes to a "Me-Fest."

Joner made some good points originally. Unfortunately, his comments since have made it seem like his motivation for those comments were nothing but greed. (Not saying that's what it is, but that's the way some of it came across. No disrespect intended GJ.)

I think we should forget about the discussions that have occured since the start of this, give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and discuss what changes (if any) Nintendo should consider making regarding the prizes.
 
davechri said:
I think we should forget about the discussions that have occured since the start of this, give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and discuss what changes (if any) Nintendo should consider making regarding the prizes.


Fair enough with me. I thought everything was well above what was expected and received. I would not change anything
 
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The check in things aren't really prizes... those to me were more of a welcome thing... and seemed almost required since the pushed wearing those friggen shirts so much... I like the binder and all that do not get me wrong, I thought it was awesome. The whole thing WAS awesome I had a total blast. However I do agree with the prizes, I think there shoulda been a little something more on the day of the tournament... at least for the full top 32, like they coulda upped the packs IMO.
 
I'll say more when I have time...but for now...I'll just say...Pokedad, the world championships did not exceed my expectations, they MET them. The only thing that was better than expected is the dinner they gave us and the fact that it ended on time, which was a huge shock to me. be back later ;/
 
I know this has been touched on, but did Gencon 2003 kind of warp our sense of "fair prizes"?

Let's not forget that Nintendo gave out (per my calculations) over $100,000 in scholarship money. That may not be boxes of cards, but I don't think it's a bad deal.
 
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i agree with joner, i mean its not like they had a shortage of prizes for the Top 32, Top 32 was a considerable accomplishment because pokemon 1337 people like YJ Magnechu Pramawat Pablo and MANY others didn't even make the cut, why should "good sportsmanship" get extra? I think that they should have eliminated the good sportsmanship awards or at least given them to the upper players as well (at least Kewley got one) or even given out to the t32. and how hard is a t32 trop wind to make?
 
Lets take this to its logical conclusion.

1) i'm a good player.
2) They should have given it all to me!
 
Have you ever seen a kid who didn't ask for more?

Three days of fun with lots and lots and lots of free stuff.

The best event of this kind I have ever seen.

Worlds far exceeded my expectations.
 
I didnt see anyone griping about the prizes BEFORE they got there. It just seems more like sour grapes, that after they "accomplished" 17-32, and then lost, that they are complaining. Come on folks, the event was great! No one MADE you go. My son had an invite and COULDN'T go bc Mom & Dad had WORK commitments! When you teenagers GROW UP and join the REAL WORLD, you will see that PUI & Nintendo did a GREAT JOB< w/ great prizes. Yes, many of you spent money to travel, food and lodging, but did that stop you from attending in the 1st place w/ NO guarantee that you would WIN anything?? It was for the CHANCE to win great scholarships and prizes. Be thankful for what you did get.

Keith
 
Lawman said:
I didnt see anyone griping about the prizes BEFORE they got there. It just seems more like sour grapes, that after they "accomplished" 17-32, and then lost, that they are complaining. Come on folks, the event was great! No one MADE you go. My son had an invite and COULDN'T go bc Mom & Dad had WORK commitments! When you teenagers GROW UP and join the REAL WORLD, you will see that PUI & Nintendo did a GREAT JOB< w/ great prizes. Yes, many of you spent money to travel, food and lodging, but did that stop you from attending in the 1st place w/ NO guarantee that you would WIN anything?? It was for the CHANCE to win great scholarships and prizes. Be thankful for what you did get.

Keith


I do find it interesting that the ones who keep saying prizes were not sufficient (not to over generalize) are in the 11-14 age group....
 
JasonthePwnda said:
i agree with joner, i mean its not like they had a shortage of prizes for the Top 32, Top 32 was a considerable accomplishment because pokemon 1337 people like YJ Magnechu Pramawat Pablo and MANY others didn't even make the cut, why should "good sportsmanship" get extra? I think that they should have eliminated the good sportsmanship awards or at least given them to the upper players as well (at least Kewley got one) or even given out to the t32. and how hard is a t32 trop wind to make?
And finally, here's the REAL reason for the complaints: the '1337' didn't get what they think they deserved, being all so 1337 and all...doesn't matter how they placed, they just DESERVED MORE because of their 1337-ness! After all, being 1337 is MORE important and deserving of prizes than being recognized for good sportsmanship... :rolleyes:


And I'm sure it wouldn't have been 'hard' to make a T32 Tropical Wind...but why stop there? Why not a T64 AND a T128 one too? After all, it's not fair...

Gah...:nonono:

'mom
 
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Well i agree it was a good event, and no i was not eliminated in Top 32, but it seems like a total waste to give stuff for LOSING and players who really tried didn't get anything. I mean, Pramawat just decided to lose from there, and he got a good sportsmanship award. That in itself is not good sportsmanship, so yeah they werent really "sportmaship awards" but more like a "low-performance award." I think those prizes would be better given to the Top 32 (1-32) rather than "good sportsmen."
 
JasonthePwnda said:
so yeah they werent really "sportmaship awards" but more like a "low-performance award." I think those prizes would be better given to the Top 32 (1-32) rather than "good sportsmen."

This comment speaks for itself.

:nonono:
 
OK, this is deteriorating.
Back on subject or else this will get closed.

Would it make good business sense for PUI to pump up the prize support for Worlds for those that didn't make the final rounds and those that did?

Discuss.
 
I usually try to stay out of conversations like this, but this time I really couldn't do that. MAinly because I find this topic a more of a "give me more for nothing thing" I really can't believe some of the complaining I have seen on prizes lately. Let alone prizes for worlds. Lets look at this shall we.

Wizards gave trips to the top one and two places of the Stadiums and Top one of Gyms correct? So I think what maybe 40 people got free trips. Then Pokemon USA takes over, sends what 200-300 people to Disney World. Pay for hotel and Airfare, and yet you still complain. Then you get there and you get a binder full of stuff just for showing up to play and you still expect more. I don't remember anyone getting this type of stuff from Wizards at the World Championships in 2002. Gee maybe next time we should play for $100,000. I am sure some would then complain if they did that too. Its like you guys are never happy.

Anyone have any idea how much just the stuff you were given costs just for winning a tournament? Give me a break. Other players that didn't go would have just been happy being there. Take our great friends in Europe and other places in the world. They sit there drooling on there screen seeing what you guys get. Anyone see any of them complaining about prizes at worlds?

Since the prerelease thing keeps coming up lets look at Pokemon compaired to Magic shall we? Especially since the Pokemon players have it so ruff now.

Magic costs around $25 for a prerelease some times more then that. You get a starter deck and 2 packs of the new set. Prizes are based on the number of people that attend. You are not garanteed a thing other then an extra pack when you leave. With upwards of about 130 people at each event I imagine thats all you would get. You think there are "sharks" in Pokemon, try playing Magic.

In Pokemon for $15-$20 you get 6 packs of cards. You now get 4 packs of cards just for showing up plus 2 packs of cards that you can't buy in stores.

Then lets look at states shall we. Pokemon States are free!! Magic States cost $25. You get a box for winning Magic States. Anyone remember what Pokemon States got?

Its like you guys and gals expect the world for nothing. It isn't how it works. They give you too much, Pokemon will end up bankrupt. They already spent over $1,000,000 on organized play last year. How much more money do you want them to spend??
I do find it interesting that the ones who keep saying prizes were not sufficient (not to over generalize) are in the 11-14 age group....

Gonna have to agree with this. I do have to agree with the complainers though. We do need just one more prize added to the prerelease tournaments and the rest of the tournaments. How about as part of the prizes we put the winners picture in there school newspaper? Maybe even the local paper. That way they get the congrats they seem to think they deserve.

[Edit] posted the above before Pop posted the "get back on subject" thing. In my opinion you get more then enough just getting to worlds. If you want better prizes then place higher. If you give too much to lower placing people, whats the point in winning??
 
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Whats the point in winning when losing gets you a box of every set for a year and getting into T32 by going 4-2-1 against the best players in the world gets you 4 packs?
 
Sorry, joner, but your previously legit topic has now turned into a 1337ist topic.

Geez, people lay off nintendo about the prize structure, heck, why didn't they just give everyone a freaking case of cards. The next complaint is that they didn't get two cases. I am sick of hearing this from the complainers, nintendo didn't have to give you diddly for winning. Heck, they didn't even have to run worlds. Just be happy you made it in. Anyone who made it in to the tournament already had won their prizes, whether it was a box at a gc, or the numerous tournaments they had to place high in or win in order to get the T16 ranking to gain an invite.
 
JasonthePwnda said:
Whats the point in winning when losing gets you a box of every set for a year and getting into T32 by going 4-2-1 against the best players in the world gets you 4 packs?
From the way it sounds, one would think that EVERY player who 'lost' got 'more' than the T32. Just HOW MANY 'sportsmanship' awards were given out? A whole FOUR per age group, I understand...

Good lord...:nonono: If it's not complaints about the free t-shirts given to the participants to wear at the event (OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm not wearing any lame Pokeymanz shirt, I'm 2 1337 4 tHaT!!!1!) it's complaints about the prizes given out to make sure EVERYONE, win or lose, had a good time. But how DARE PUI give them out to players who don't 'deserve' it because THEY AREN'T 1337 enuf!!11!

farbsman said:
I do have to agree with the complainers though. We do need just one more prize added to the prerelease tournaments and the rest of the tournaments. How about as part of the prizes we put the winners picture in there school newspaper? Maybe even the local paper. That way they get the congrats they seem to think they deserve.
ROFL, Derek...I'd guess that if that WAS part of the prize package, the same people who are complaining about 'not enough' prizes would be screaming bloody murder because they 'can't' admit to their peers that they even PLAY this game...=/

*sigh*

'mom :nonono:
 
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