X-Box 360 > PS3?

[spartan-104]

the thing that makes me angry is when people dis the graphics for these games(the graphics are great btw)i mean these are the LAUNCH games they wont have a gigantic leap from say halo 2 to PDZ.but when march rolls around and games like GRAW and GOW(ghost recon advanced warfighter and gears of war)plus the racing games,people will be singing a differnt song...

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

You're missing the point...it will STILL be a console, but it will be able to do things a PC can do.

In other words, it'd be a PC with a good graphics card and processor?

No matter what fancy features a console has, or its ability to be a PC....it all comes down to the games, both the playability and quality of those games.

Which completely undermines your position on nintendo falling behind because its consoles wouldn't have all the unnecessary bells and whistles. It's also a good time to note that if used right, its "weird" controllers could actually have a very good effect on gameplay.

 

[fastphil]

In other words, it'd be a PC with a good graphics card and processor?

No it'd be a CONSOLE with PC like qualities

Which completely undermines your position on nintendo falling behind because its consoles wouldn't have all the unnecessary bells and whistles. It's also a good time to note that if used right, its "weird" controllers could actually have a very good effect on gameplay.

Actually No, it doesn't undermine my position on Nintendo falling behind. And that controller, as stated in about 10 other threads, would be really cool for a FPS shooter game, agreed, but would be a MAJOR hand pain for a FPS game lasting longer than 10 minutes. PASS! I'll use the muscles i've developed using normal controllers over the past 2 decades (yes i'm old).

 

[DragonMasterMatt]

Myself, I couldn't care less about online play, the console being a recreation centre, or even, to an extent, the graphics, Nintendo has a completely different market to the 360 or PS3, the PS3 and 360 are consoles which provide multi media-esque features, with "big name" licenses being thrown around everywhere, and, let's face it, neither one of them have any proper originality about them in terms of both playing games, in that it's just an upgrade, and the games available on it, linking back to Nintendo having a different market, it's market is for those who want to see something new and revolutionary, something that changes how games are played, don't count nintendo totally down and out, when we are yet to know whether it will have the same features as something like the xbox 360.

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

And that controller, as stated in about 10 other threads, would be really cool for a FPS shooter game, agreed, but would be a MAJOR hand pain for a FPS game lasting longer than 10 minutes. PASS! I'll use the muscles i've developed using normal controllers over the past 2 decades (yes i'm old).

Welcome to the 21st century, pops.

No it'd be a CONSOLE with PC like qualities

When you start sticking lots of various non-gaming features into it, it ceases to be a gaming console and becomes more of an entertainment/utility device. You know, like a computer.

Actually No, it doesn't undermine my position on Nintendo falling behind.

Would you like to back this statement up somehow before going on to bash a device you've most likely never even seen in person?

 

[fastphil]

Woohoo, someone got it!

Wasnt really counting Nintendo down and out, i was just trying to get people to discuss the possibilities of the next gen and the Next Next gen consoles.

I for one think its going to be exciting to be able to play Project Gotham Racing 6 and watch an episode of Lost season 6 all Picture in Picture on a 60 in screen All from one console. Trust me....one day thats going to happen :thumb:

 

[fastphil]

Welcome to the 21st century, pops.

hahaha, thanx. I do believe i still have my Atari 2600 and my Intellivision somewhere

When you start sticking lots of various non-gaming features into it, it ceases to be a gaming console and becomes more of an entertainment/utility device. You know, like a computer.

Actually I use my PC for gaming more than anything else.

Would you like to back this statement up somehow before going on to bash a device you've most likely never even seen in person?

Not bashing it, as stated a hundred times. Just trying to say, i trust an electronics leader (Sony) and a software Giant (microsoft) to bring me the future more than i do a kiddie game company (Nintendo). I know, they have some adult games, but lets face it...perception is reality to most folks and Nintend is going to have that perception for a very long time!

 

[DragonMasterMatt]

Oh, For those of you still complaining about revolutions controller, there's high chance if not a certainty that Nintendo will have a housing for the remote-esque controller, to enable it to function as a normal controller, similar to that of the other consoles.

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

You can't complain about it until you've tried it. Or heard from a good number of people that have tried it.

Just trying to say, i trust an electronics leader (Sony) and a software Giant (microsoft) to bring me the future more than i do a kiddie game company (Nintendo).

Except for the fact that they show a disturbing trend of doing next to no changing of the actual gaming aspects of their consoles. And what's the point of the future if it's the same as the past?

Actually I use my PC for gaming more than anything else.

So you already have something that can do pretty much all of those great "future" things that consoles will do, yet you still don't use them much, but you expect that you will when they're on a console?

I know, they have some adult games, but lets face it...perception is reality to most folks and Nintend is going to have that perception for a very long time!

Which brings us to another good topic to discuss: what's so bad about games that are supposedly "kiddy?" Do you really need to validate your maturity with video games, or can you not get past your primal urges?

 

[a_shy_girl_1999]

gamecube 360 :thumb: that sounds cool ^_^ i dont like xbox much :redface:

 

[DragonMasterMatt]

Why buy an xbox 360 or ps3 when you can buy a new GFX card for your pc?

 

[Dek]

No it'd be a CONSOLE with PC like qualities

Actually, I would have to disagree with a statement like this. Here's why...

If it was a console rather than a PC, why have PC Hardware companies, such as IBM and ATI (who made proprietary video cards for the Gamecube) involved in the production of the console? Just because the PC companies are experienced in what they do?

If it was a console rather than a PC, why have the need for specs as mentioned in this Kotaku article (I will note, however, that this was posted a while back, but it still brings up the question regardless)?

Three 3GHz PowerPC cores?
A 500 MHz GPU (Graphics Processing Unit, or video card)?
256 MB of RAM?

These are specs for a really screwy PC, not a console.

Besides, Game Informer had an article about the specs of the PS3 and the Xbox 360. While the PS3 does intend to use the Blu-Ray disc technology (which holds more data compared to DVDs, which hold around 8.5GB), the disc drive itself is slower compared to the Xbox 360's DVD drive.

...and we have specs like these for graphics?

Don't get me wrong. As beautiful as the graphics are in some of these games, there is always one thing that lacks, whether it's content, gameplay, or a decent length in regards to how many hours it takes for the game to be completed.

Actually No, it doesn't undermine my position on Nintendo falling behind. And that controller, as stated in about 10 other threads, would be really cool for a FPS shooter game, agreed, but would be a MAJOR hand pain for a FPS game lasting longer than 10 minutes. PASS! I'll use the muscles i've developed using normal controllers over the past 2 decades (yes i'm old).

And that controller, as I have tried to state in those estimated 10 other threads, hasn't been used by the majority of the world, so making an assumption about it right now is a waste of time.

Heck, in the time it takes to make a flawed assumption, you could be saving loads of money by switching to Geico...

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

You'll need that money, too, if you plan on buying new consoles that aren't made by nintendo.

 

[eauxmar]

The only thing I don't like with the XBox360 is that it's not backwards compatible with all of XBox games

 

[Dek]

You'll need that money, too, if you plan on buying new consoles that aren't made by nintendo.

Well, you need money no matter what, even with the current game library, where the prices of games are as low as $30 and as high as $50/$60.

Also, I have heard a rumor about PS3 games being an estimated $70 (probably due to the use of Blu-Ray discs =/ )

The only thing I don't like with the XBox360 is that it's not backwards compatible with all of XBox games

Actually, from the sound of things, M$ has been trying to make deals with the companies that made games for Xbox so that the games will work for the 360.

How it will happen when a deal is struck? Who knows? Downloadable patch? Driver update? Hard drive compatibility update?

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

Well, obviously you need money to get a console. My point is how nintendo consoles always seem to be much easier on the wallet.

 

[fastphil]

Heck, in the time it takes to make a flawed assumption, you could be saving loads of money by switching to Geico...

Ahh youth of today. Taking someone's opinion and trying to make Their OPINION better in some way. Flawed in your eyes, but not in tested tried in true gamer hands!

 

[fastphil]

Well, obviously you need money to get a console. My point is how nintendo consoles always seem to be much easier on the wallet.

No one can argue with that. In fact, i'm willing to bet 2 generations from now, it will still be the same way

 

[fastphil]

If it was a console rather than a PC, why have PC Hardware companies, such as IBM and ATI (who made proprietary video cards for the Gamecube) involved in the production of the console? Just because the PC companies are experienced in what they do?

I think people are looking at this the wrong way. Just look at it this way. Imagine an Xbox or PS3 looking console under your tv...instead of Cable (or Satellite) box, Tivo, DVD player. Its still a game console it just does all those other things!! So instead of 5 things under the TV, you have maybe 2

 

[fastphil]

You can't complain about it until you've tried it. Or heard from a good number of people that have tried it.

Valid point and i do agree

Except for the fact that they show a disturbing trend of doing next to no changing of the actual gaming aspects of their consoles. And what's the point of the future if it's the same as the past?

Well actually thats up to the programmers of the games not the console makers themselves. They are just providing the platform to do it on

So you already have something that can do pretty much all of those great "future" things that consoles will do, yet you still don't use them much, but you expect that you will when they're on a console?

Not all those, i dont have satellite tv or what not on my PC nor is it on my 60in screen at home. I did post something that might happen one day earlier in another post, but as i suspect not everyone reads everything. I'm just too lazy to post it again.

Which brings us to another good topic to discuss: what's so bad about games that are supposedly "kiddy?" Do you really need to validate your maturity with video games, or can you not get past your primal urges?

Nope, just saying that kiddy games dont appeal to me. maybe they do to you, but not to me