X-Box 360 > PS3?

[Dek]

Ahh youth of today. Taking someone's opinion and trying to make Their OPINION better in some way. Flawed in your eyes, but not in tested tried in true gamer hands!

I guess only if you consider the age of 19 to be of youth.

But if you have actually tried the controller, why not tell us, as in the many that haven't had the experience with the controller, what it's like?

Oh, and there's an edit button for a reason...

 

[fastphil]

I guess only if you consider the age of 19 to be of youth.

But if you have actually tried the controller, why not tell us, as in the many that haven't had the experience with the controller, what it's like?

Oh, and there's an edit button for a reason...

19 is youth to me. Dont take it personally, i really didnt mean it as an attack on you. You dont have to actually have tried the controller. Just simulate it with something similar, your hand WILL get tired after about 10 minutes of pointing that thing around. I dont know about you, but my Halo and Counterstrike sessions go WAY beyond 10 minutes

edit button? bah, no sense

Actually, come to think of it....there is a bright side to that. All those people who call everyone who games, geeks...will have to rethink. Those controllers might start making people stronger

 

[Prime]

If Microsoft wants to incorporate all that into the 3rd console, then it will be much different than a regular console. The price will increase drasticly, and you will have to ask yourself if your'd rather buy a console that can play DVD's, get cable, and stuff, or just get those items themsleves. I for one WOULDN'T want something like that. I already have cable and a DVD player and a lot of that stuff. Why buy a console for $700+ just so I can use one thing to do all of it? There's no reason to IMHO.

I do agree with what others have been saying. If Microsoft goes this way, even if it is a console, the 3rd microsoft console won't be on the same level as the other sony and nintendo consoles and probably won't be treated as such either. IMHO all microsoft is trying to do is make their console into a multimedia computer that controls everything in the house. Computers play games, can play movies, can watch tv on, can play DVD's. Sounds exactly like the 3rd microsoft console information.

IMHO Nintendo will be a strong force as long as there are games. Nintendo's been making games longer than both Microsoft and Sony, and many of their consoles are record makers. The GBA and DS can't be equalled. The DS has sold better than any console in Japan. PS2, Xbox360, PSP, nothing has sold as well as the DS. Nintendo is the handheld big boys, and that should atleast be a good sign that Nintendo will be around for a long time. I do feel the last few tv consoles of Nintendo haven't been that great, but really, everyday is a new day, and the "Revolution" has gotten a lot of good words for it by SO many developers. So many people want to work with it. You don't hear that kind of stuff about the PS3, or the 360 do you? Didn't think so.

Yes I'm biased. Sue me.

 

[Dek]

Just simulate it with something similar, your hand WILL get tired after about 10 minutes of pointing that thing around. I dont know about you, but my Halo and Counterstrike sessions go WAY beyond 10 minutes

True, but Counterstrike uses Keyboard and Mouse and Halo uses a controller and not a remote...

edit button? bah, no sense

You're a user here. Therefore, the rules about double-posting still apply...

Either way, back to the topic about...

X-box 360

and...

PS3

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

Well actually thats up to the programmers of the games not the console makers themselves. They are just providing the platform to do it on

And those expensive multiple-core processors are harder to program for. Meanwhile, nintendo practically dumps the opportunity to create something new, original, and great into the laps of the makers of games.

And have you ever heard of first-party games?

i dont have satellite tv or what not on my PC

It's not on consoles either. Do you really think it'll be on a console before a PC?

The price will increase drasticly, and you will have to ask yourself if your'd rather buy a console that can play DVD's, get cable, and stuff, or just get those items themsleves. I for one WOULDN'T want something like that. I already have cable and a DVD player and a lot of that stuff. Why buy a console for $700+ just so I can use one thing to do all of it? There's no reason to IMHO.

A great point I haven't gotten around to yet! How many people actually don't have at least one of those things the console does for their wonderful money? Especially since, [brokenrecord]most of them can be done by a PC[/brokenrecord]. People just don't need these things because they already have something that already has the same purpose.

Just simulate it with something similar, your hand WILL get tired after about 10 minutes of pointing that thing around.

You can move various parts of your arm to the same effect... Use whichever one is strongest, or keep changing as you play. And really, I don't think this counts as any real assessment... Until more people have tried it, I still think all opinions on its comfort are invalid.

 

[fastphil]

I would like to thank all of you guys for actually discussing this and not getting mad or personal....at least i think so. It was my point in the first place. I dont really care which way or the other, Prime is right, Prices will sky rocket. Gamers will buy it anyhow i think. But there will always be room for cheap consoles (prices cheap).

I tried this on another board and it was just one flame session after another. Hats off to you guys for keeping cool and bringing valid points to the table. Granted its a nintendo biased table, but you'll never find one completely indifferent anyhow

 

[eauxmar]

Actually, from the sound of things, M$ has been trying to make deals with the companies that made games for Xbox so that the games will work for the 360.

How it will happen when a deal is struck? Who knows? Downloadable patch? Driver update? Hard drive compatibility update?

There are already upgrades, you can use XBoxLive or Download it to your comp; then burn it onto a DVD-R or CD-R and the XBox will update. But with the newest upgrade, the XBox360 is only backwards compatible with about 40 games.

 

[Blaziken98]

If you think Halo is the best game ever made you can't really compare the 2 systeams it makes you Biest towards the Xbox becuase of one game.
I will tell you right now both the 360 and the PS3 are kick *** it all depends on what you want. I personally like RPGs and Action/Adventure games with the ocassional shooter which PS2 and 3 deliver.
Xbox however lacks in the RPG feild and has a copule action games but mostly the systeam is for mindeless shooter games for "Gamers". Oh and almost every game on the 360 is also avalible for the PC which the PC version is always better.
This is coming from a gamer that has played the best of both worlds. I say the 360 is great but the Ps3 will be better

PS the PS3 will also have a DVR recorder for recording Tv Programs also it will have a PSP WiFi connections so you can downlaod movies mp3 files and pictutres from you PsP to the Systeam. Ps3 also will have a Online capabulitilty similar to Xbox live.

 

[PokeWisconsin]

Does anyone have this? Im thinking of buying one, can anybody give me there opinions on it?
IS it a good buy or should i just wait until PS3

I'm waiting until a game for XBOX 360 is released that is good, like Halo 3. I'll definitely get it then. It's a great system, it just needs some good software. As for PS3, I don't think I'll get it unless there is a great title for it that I can't get on XBOX 360. I don't even play many video games these days, so I'll wait for a good one.

 

[Prime]

If microsoft's 3rd console does do everything fastphil said, I am sure it will be very popular. If people have the money, they will buy the console. Just look at the xbox 360. Correct me if I may be wrong, but it's been a while since we have seen a $500 tv console. In the end, it didn't matter at all, because those with the money bought it, and those without, didn't. I feel that will be true for any new system that has potential and looks pretty that might come out in the future.

And I also feel there is a HUGE market for cheap consoles. Has anyone seen those controller type consoles that hook up through the red/yellow/white ports on your tv? There are so many different kinds of them out there. IMHO, those are the fruit of the cheap consoles market, and companies wouldn't be making them if they weren't selling.

There will always be players who will pay money for the best of the best, and as long as they are around, systems like the PS3 and 360 will do well. I do feel Nintendo is going down the right path by trying to appeal to the other class/es of gamers that might not be able to afford those systems or might not care that much about graphics. I also feel there is a bigger market overall if you combine those groups of players.

Just my thoughts.

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

Xbox 360 costs $300-400.

More on ebay.

 

[sneaselsrevenge]

For whoever was posting about Nintendo being game changing and revolutionary, can you give examples? Virtual Boy? hahaha..next. Discs instead of cartridges? Last to do that....next. The new controller? Housing or not, this looks like a bad idea. Except for the original NES, Nintendo has always been behind either Sega, Sony, or MS. The only reason left to get a Revolution is for a cheap console, or you're really into Mario, Zelda, and/or Pokemon. Personally, my gaming dollar is going towards a 360 when the price drops. However long that may take.

I kinda like that I could have a great console with games I like, and never have to buy a memory card. Not to mention, you get a month free of Xbox live with the purchase of the premium system. I have faith that the backwards compatibility thing will be worked out. If not, I still have my original Xbox.

 

[Professor_Chris]

For whoever was posting about Nintendo being game changing and revolutionary, can you give examples? Virtual Boy? hahaha..next. Discs instead of cartridges? Last to do that....next. The new controller? Housing or not, this looks like a bad idea. Except for the original NES, Nintendo has always been behind either Sega, Sony, or MS. The only reason left to get a Revolution is for a cheap console, or you're really into Mario, Zelda, and/or Pokemon. Personally, my gaming dollar is going towards a 360 when the price drops. However long that may take.

I kinda like that I could have a great console with games I like, and never have to buy a memory card. Not to mention, you get a month free of Xbox live with the purchase of the premium system. I have faith that the backwards compatibility thing will be worked out. If not, I still have my original Xbox.

I notice the DS is absent from your list, perhaps because it's a total success and doesn't prove your point? :3 The DS is outselling everything everywhere (when I say everything I mean everything combined). In fact, it's SOLD OUT in Japan (consistantly selling out, in fact). The DS is an amazing innovative success for Nintendo. There is no doubt in my mind that the Revolution will follow suit.

 

[sneaselsrevenge]

I notice the DS is absent from your list, perhaps because it's a total success and doesn't prove your point? :3 The DS is outselling everything everywhere (when I say everything I mean everything combined). In fact, it's SOLD OUT in Japan (consistantly selling out, in fact). The DS is an amazing innovative success for Nintendo. There is no doubt in my mind that the Revolution will follow suit.

No, the DS is a handheld. Nintendo has always been the king of handhelds. That's why I left it off.

 

[ZAKtheGeek]

For whoever was posting about Nintendo being game changing and revolutionary, can you give examples?

Ever heard of the d-pad, the analog stick, or the rumble pack?

The new controller? Housing or not, this looks like a bad idea.

[brokenrecord]Don't knock it 'till you've tried it.[/brokenrecord]

 

[bullados]

Zak: You're forgetting about shoulder buttons and true 3D polygonal gaming.

 

[Dek]

[brokenrecord]Don't knock it 'till you've tried it.[/brokenrecord]

Zak, remember that no one is going to listen to a broken record (*points to self earlier in thread* -_-;;; )

 

[DragonMasterMatt]

For whoever was posting about Nintendo being game changing and revolutionary, can you give examples? Virtual Boy? hahaha..next. Discs instead of cartridges? Last to do that....next. The new controller? Housing or not, this looks like a bad idea. Except for the original NES, Nintendo has always been behind either Sega, Sony, or MS. The only reason left to get a Revolution is for a cheap console, or you're really into Mario, Zelda, and/or Pokemon. Personally, my gaming dollar is going towards a 360 when the price drops. However long that may take.

I notice you make a vague compliment towards the nes, bare in mind that the Nintendo revolution will have over 20 years of back catalogue, over the 40 games of the xbox 360.

Have you seen the demo video for the controller? It proves that the revolution remote esque part alone has so many possibilities about it. And it'll be used with the new Zelda title coming out as a release for gamecube, but when played in the revolution, the extra features and controlling methods kick in, to me, playing zelda and actually being a part of the action as oppose to doing the same old thing as we've been doing for the past 20 years is revolutionary.
Nintendo are the only ones who don't just upgrade their consoles, they come up with something new, and in return are the most acclaimed games makers of the three.

I kinda like that I could have a great console with games I like, and never have to buy a memory card. Not to mention, you get a month free of Xbox live with the purchase of the premium system. I have faith that the backwards compatibility thing will be worked out. If not, I still have my original Xbox.

What makes you so sure that the revolution won't feature a hard drive, when there's no proper specs as yet? And why does one month of free online play sway your decision, when there's inevitable going to be unlimited free online play with the revolution, much like the DS.

Nintendo are also marketing their console at the best time, much like, and I have to admit this, Microsoft did. I have no doubts that the Revolution will outsell the 360, as by the time it's out, the 360 will be like the ps2 was when the Gamecube and xbox came out; old technology. Marketing your console over the christmas period, like microsoft did last year and Nintendo will do this year is the best thing to do as oppose to shipping it out in the middle of the year, when Xbox 360 will be entering it's peak game wise, and the revolution, which'll be the 'christmas present console' over the ps3 will be coming out 5 or so months later.

 

[Professor_Chris]

Have you seen the demo video for the controller? It proves that the revolution remote esque part alone has so many possibilities about it. And it'll be used with the new Zelda title coming out as a release for gamecube, but when played in the revolution, the extra features and controlling methods kick in, to me, playing zelda and actually being a part of the action as oppose to doing the same old thing as we've been doing for the past 20 years is revolutionary.
Nintendo are the only ones who don't just upgrade their consoles, they come up with something new, and in return are the most acclaimed games makers of the three.

What makes you so sure that the revolution won't feature a hard drive, when there's no proper specs as yet? And why does one month of free online play sway your decision, when there's inevitable going to be unlimited free online play with the revolution, much like the DS.

There will be no special controls for LoZ:TTP when it is inserted into the Revolution. That was a rumor. A false rumor. Sorry. ;/ The Revolution will not have a hard drive, that's been known for like ever.

Nintendo are also marketing their console at the best time, much like, and I have to admit this, Microsoft did. I have no doubts that the Revolution will outsell the 360, as by the time it's out, the 360 will be like the ps2 was when the Gamecube and xbox came out; old technology. Marketing your console over the christmas period, like microsoft did last year and Nintendo will do this year is the best thing to do as oppose to shipping it out in the middle of the year, when Xbox 360 will be entering it's peak game wise, and the revolution, which'll be the 'christmas present console' over the ps3 will be coming out 5 or so months later.

Let's not forget that the PS2 is the biggest seller of the three. It had a huge library, and despite not being as capable as the Xbox or Cube it did VERY well.

 

[DragonMasterMatt]

Actually, that rumour has been confirmed regarding TLOZ:TP.
PS2 was the biggest seller because it was the first next gen console, granted it did very well, even into it's later years, but it just seemed to lack originality like the gamecube, or even to a lesser extent, the xbox did.

Theres also been no word on the Revolution's hard drive yet, so nobody knows for certain whether it will or will not feature one.