CT Cities Report(How to screw yourself over)

[GinoLombardi21]

Not if I have anything to say about it.

Anyway, I'm buying new sleeves to use at the RI CC after hearing this. I'll probably get new ones before the Milford MA one, too.

Uh-Oh! Shaggys been training. Must be getting better to talk that trash. Hows them side events treatin ya?

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Sorry im a little off topic but brendan at RI just get your deck checked before the tournament. Thats what im doing. I think alot of other people will be doing this too after seeing what happend sunday!

 

[Let Fire Fall]

Since Skull Bash said he doesn't mind (infact he said it earlier[I need to learn to read]) and i realize my arguement was *kinda* (aka really) bad, I am just going to butt out. BTW LFF, the whole black thing was 100% uncalled for.

The suggestion that the accuser was racist was a sarcastic joke to lighten up the situation.

 

[Skull Bash]

Yea, it's all good. A mistake's a mistake and it ultimately falls on the person who made it. Which is me. I accepted the DQ yesterday already, not trying to go in depth into it again. I just wanted to make an insightful post so people would know what to do and what not to do in the future.

Deck checks for me are mandatory now, I dont know about you guys.

 

[GinoLombardi21]

Lets say if 20 people ask for optional deck checks. Will all 20 people get their deck checked? Cuz I remember yesterday Me and maybe someone else got a optional deck check and on top of that the tournament ran late anyway. If your running late how do you check 20 decks? Can a TO or Judge turn down the optional deck check.

 

[3l3d33z]

RULE NUMBER: HAVE FUN!
come on guys


lets keep are opinions to ourselves and play the game.
skull bash and gdog you guys honestly ruffled caras feathers on purpose and calling her a sore loser and is low blow because i know her, she is honestly one of my best friends i believe and ive only known her for like a couple months.
she is the "best loser" and one of he sweetest girls i know,

heck gino, whne i lost to you in the final cut at battle roads i started to CRY.

why arent you complaining about my "bad sportsmanship" ?!


everyone gets a little down when the lose, natrually, but cara certainly didnt make a scene or accuse you of anything. dont get it twisted.




everyone stop fighting its stupid
its pokemon,
not poker.

 

[Skull Bash]

RULE NUMBER: HAVE FUN!
come on guys


lets keep are opinions to ourselves and play the game.
skull bash and gdog you guys honestly ruffled caras feathers on purpose and calling her a sore loser and is low blow because i know her, she is honestly one of my best friends i believe and ive only known her for like a couple months.
she is the "best loser" and one of he sweetest girls i know,

heck gino, whne i lost to you in the final cut at battle roads i started to CRY.

why arent you complaining about my "bad sportsmanship" ?!


everyone gets a little down when the lose, natrually, but cara certainly didnt make a scene or accuse you of anything. dont get it twisted.




everyone stop fighting its stupid
its pokemon,
not poker.

I'm not saying anything about her actions at cities. I talked with her at cities and she seemed like a decent person, and was very nice.

The fact is afterwords she comes online and calls me a cheater directly when she didn't even know the situation. It's obvious that didn't come out when we were playing our game, so I don't really know where that came from.

Naturally she came online and tried to blame the fact that she lost on me "cheating" when nobody said that was the case. She was trying to say that when I got the right cards, it was because I was cheating. I assured her that I used Lead with Stantler and was using 2 supporters a turn because of telepass. When you have that many cards to work with, it's very hard not to have the particular cards you need.

 

[phoenixback4fire]

At any event that I go to just look for me ,
ill hook anyone up with sleeves if they need them.

Also This game is all about Having fun so why are we all fighting ?

why does this continue ...it happened yesterday ..its over n done with
and all the things in this thread are so negative:::frown:


Nothing good can come from this only more fighting and more negativity,
Although we all have our differences ,and although we all dont agree with eachother
the best thing for everyone is to just stop, take a step back and look at what your doing






So put on a happy face forget this and get pumped for this weekend
To have an awsome time In RI:thumb:

p.s. Dont forget to LIGHT up your cityz!!!!!!

 

[DarkMagnus]

and as bad as it is my bag of random sleeves didn't fit in the bag that went that time... and sadly i doubt we will be able to play against each other as this past week end was my only weekends off i will be judging the upcomming events, hope to see you in Ri and GL stop by Cherry Valley as it isn't that far imo from CT, and theres always Tj's

 

[pokemonmike]

The way I see it is the player is responsible for making sure their sleeves are good enough and if they have problems during a tourney they should notify the judge to allow them time to re-sleeve or take them all off . From reading the above it seems the player was blaitantly disregarding damaged sleeves which was the person's resposibility to make sure they are all tourney worthy or have no sleeves at all on there deck. And do most not bring extra sleeves to a tourney for such situations? I know most people I play have extras at all times for such circumstances. Infact I bring around 8 - 10 extra packs for those if they need them.

 

[Skull Bash]

The way I see it is the player is responsible for making sure their sleeves are good enough and if they have problems during a tourney they should notify the judge to allow them time to re-sleeve or take them all off . From reading the above it seems the player was blaitantly disregarding damaged sleeves which was the person's resposibility to make sure they are all tourney worthy or have no sleeves at all on there deck. And do most not bring extra sleeves to a tourney for such situations? I know most people I play have extras at all times for such circumstances. Infact I bring around 8 - 10 extra packs for those if they need them.

I wasn't disregarding it, I knew they were damaged, but I didn't know the fact that they were was a big deal. I didn't think it was something I would get called marked sleeves over. I do now, and now I'll make sure my sleeves are in working condition.

 

[KingOfKings715]

Brandon...i said i would post here, umm wow a lot XD Umm do want Mrs. Gino Lombardi did and make sure the judges check your deck before the tournament.

P.S.-Make sure you go to NE and beat both Brian and Gino for me XD

 

[secretsof2113]

There are a lot of things that I think really do need to be addressed here, because of various things that have been said in this topic.

First off-It is possible that Skull Bash could have intentionally marked the sleeve. In competitive play, that always comes up as an option

Second-It's just as likely that it was accidental, and he didn't even notice until the random deck check.

Third-The race card is never appropriate to pull on people. It's something I've witnessed way too much. I don't care what color you are.....you're still human. Shady characters can be white for all we know.

Fourth-Deck checks should have been mandatory. I know they weren't at nationals, but it's a preventative measure for you, and can ultimately save any headaches that can occur.

Fifth-Spirit of the game guys! I don't know why this game has gotten the way it has. Yes, I know there are things at stake, but my god, they are material possessions. Why can't you just go to a tournament to have fun, and not worry about what you place that day?

Sixth-Respect is one of the biggest things here. I see a ton of disrespect going on in this topic. Most of us who are judges are players ourselves. We do know that favoritism happens. A judge should be responsible enough to say "I shouldn't be judging this table because of a relationship I have with so and so." Yes, you may want a certain person to win, but as judges, we are expected to make unbiased rulings.

Skull Bash-It stinks that you were targeted in this way, but it seems you do understand the direction the judges were coming from, even if their final decision seemed a little harsher than expected. And while we as judges may not agree with the decision, we still respect the fact that one was made.

Don't let it get you down. Just use what happened as a lesson to keep enough extra sleeves on you to prevent future issues that may occur.

 

[GinoLombardi21]

heck gino, whne i lost to you in the final cut at battle roads i started to CRY.
why arent you complaining about my "bad sportsmanship" ?!

Becuz im a nice guy. I dont take cheap shots at ppl but according to Tom and Steve I have rly bad sportsmanship. Im glad you can see the good I do. IDK what you mean but I dont have a problem with cara. I just had a problem with her callin out my friend. Shady Character, Cheater, imo thats an insult. Everything that has happend to me I wont let happend to anyone else im friends with. Thats why when he told me at the tournament he was DQ'd I got involved. GJ brandon on ur 4-0 though:thumb:

 

[Papi/Manny]

The suggestion that the accuser was racist was a sarcastic joke to lighten up the situation.

O, I got a good kick out of that one. NOT. Seriously, grow the heck up. You know what you did and got caught. Stop spewing your balogna and admit your wrong and be a man about the situation. And LOL at the above post. It happened to you because you asked for it.

 

[OLD_SCHOOL_PLAYER]

This is a little over reaction by the judges, one of my friends that played in the grinder, he played against a guy with clear sleeves. Get this one of the guy's cards were jpn and a couple were diff type of clear sleeves, and yet he still didnt get even a game loss just the chance to switch sleeves : /

 

[TomShea]

Folks if you want to play in competitive tournaments it is YOUR RESPONSIBLILTY to know the rules. Toiurnament officials are not to be EXPECTED to check all decks before tournaments. Frankly if the players are not taking responsibility for the condition of their sleeves checking their sleeves prior to the tournament does nothing. PLAYERS NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FOLLOWING THE RULES! Again this is not a hard thing to do.


Naki Ferlin you are out of line here. The rules state that playing with marked cards is cheating. For you to allow a player to play in a tournament with MARKED sleeves is irresponsible. You sir are taking the easy way out. I for one do not relish disqualifing a player. Allowing one to play with marked sleeves is the wrong call. Giving a game loss with resleeve is the wrong call. You publically questioning my decision is also the wrong call. I run a little over 300 tournaments a year and have done this for over 10 years. Believe me we made the right call. The condition of the sleeves in question were not acceptable. If you want to discuss judgements made in tournaments you should contact the involved parties privately not second guess them on the boards.

Players do check your sleeves often.

Players if you do not know the rule, ASK A JUDGE

Yes let's have fun,

Tom Shea

 

[Jaeger]

What ever went down people should see this as a learning experience if your not buying new sleeves its wise to have your deck checked.

 

[BJJ763]

... but in essence, not every player is utterly responsible for their deck.

Utterly wrong. Players are responsible for their decks. That's why deck checks are optional. Out of the 60+ players i believe only 1 asked.

Yeah we got 60+ at a CC!

Can't wait to see the state numbers...

 

[Naki Feralkin]

Naki Ferlin you are out of line here.

I have no desire to take the bait on this. My opinion stands and that is what it remained. I don't see how an opinion can count as "Being out of line.", but whatever.

I am of the firm belief that deck checks should be made regardless to prevent things like this from occurring. I am not questioning the way you run your tournaments, sir, yet I have my own beliefs on the matter. Is it wrong to express such a thing, perhaps a concern? As I said, I can understand it at much larger turn outs, but still. People can be singled out, accidents can occur, and poor judgement can be made.

For you to allow a player to play in a tournament with MARKED sleeves is irresponsible.

I don't, actually. Every tournament I have ever judged in has had deck registration pre-tournament, and I make absolutely sure that all sleeves are taken care of before a tournament even starts. In that matter, if someone is caught with dinged sleeves, even after we checked them before a tournament begins, then I know something is wrong.

I will always get my deck checked for this reason because I know a judge will not be afraid to tell me if something is wrong with my sleeves. I was questioned at nationals, but they gave it the okay. In that essence, my trust in the judges judgement should also be taken to account because I allowed them to check it and give it the okay. If I got a DQ, after one of the judges firmly checked my deck, and I was obviously not messing with my deck (as I am not the type to do that, being a professor and knowing full well the consequences), I would obviously be ticked off. People can miss things, people might not even notice. Why a DQ? I don't know. Its your call, I will not question it, even though I do not believe it to be right.

I still don't understand why I'm getting singled out because of an opinion. I feel quite offended by this sudden attack, and it was very much uncalled for.

 

[bulbasnore]

There is a very simple explanation as to why some sleves can get marked in "patterns" ... I’ve noticed that when I exchange sleves from one deck to the next I tend to take the Pokemon out and then put new Pokemon in those now empty sleves. Ditto for the Energy. Many supporters stay from deck to deck and don’t get resleved and those that do tend to replace other supporters. Any wear marks that are common to one type of use tend to accumulate over time. This can lead to most of a certain type of card have similar "markings" that only get more pronounced.
...
But just reporting an observation that others might find useful for future use.

I do find that useful. I just switched over to a system where I keep my play cards all in black sleeves (I bought a ton of them). However, what you say is logical. I was thinking there might be some difference in shine, but I was planning to switch out for 'cool' sleeves at events. However, now I will make sure I do change sleeves, and make sure they are uniform.

My cards DID show wear. The way I shuffle sometimes leaves Gashes. It also has to do with the fact that I don't use deckboxes, so whenever I bring my deck somewhere I just put it in my pocket. Thus sometimes a card "folds."

Not piling on, just noting that this method of carrying cards, which is not uncommon in my area, or my family, is problematic to the point that it is worth some extra trouble to take care of the cards, to avoid the complications you encountered. As much as I don't want to let my cards seem marked, even more I don't want to see this become a penalty of any kind when I'm judging.